Blue Jackets looking to trade Rick Nash?

• gorocks99

  

  Assuming Cbus could get some assurance that Rask would resign before becoming an RFA, I might take that deal. How bad is Horton's injury? Could be a deal breaker, don't want a $4m guy with concussion issues that'll only be good for 40 games a year.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  gorocks99;1087935 wrote:Assuming Cbus could get some assurance that Rask would resign before becoming an RFA, I might take that deal. How bad is Horton's injury? Could be a deal breaker, don't want a $4m guy with concussion issues that'll only be good for 40 games a year.

  Your GM seems like the kind of guy that would overlook him being out the rest of the season (most likely out anyways).
• gorocks99

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1087993 wrote:Your GM seems like the kind of guy that would overlook him being out the rest of the season (most likely out anyways).

  By God, you're right. Throw in Savard and you got a deal!
• chicago510

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1087914 wrote:peace out horton and rask and bring in Nash. I'm down, i think we could find a goalie in the next 2 years to replace thomas.

  We'll throw in Mason :laugh:
• said_aouita

  

  Raw Dawgin' it;1087785 wrote:What's the point of having a league if only a select few teams should have the top players? This is moronic and not even worth arguing.

  Baseball has it's All-star rich teams in big cities like Boston and New York, yet St Louis wins the World Series.
  The NHL should make sure the top handful of players are marketed as best as possible (big cities) but their is still enough talent for everyone else to be competitive. Two or three all-stars on each big city team does not guarantee them the title.
  
  Nash would be smart to want to play for a big city team.
• chicago510

  

  said_aouita;1088135 wrote:Baseball has it's All-star rich teams in big cities like Boston and New York, yet St Louis wins the World Series.
  The NHL should make sure the top handful of players are marketed as best as possible (big cities) but their is still enough talent for everyone else to be competitive. Two or three all-stars on each big city team does not guarantee them the title.

  Sports with a hard salary cap cannot have multiple stars on one team. See what happened to the Blackhawks after they won the cup 2 years ago. Team was STACKED, but they had to shed salary like crazy afterwards. I just don't think you get how hockey works.
• End of Line

  

  gorocks99;1087935 wrote:Assuming Cbus could get some assurance that Rask would resign before becoming an RFA, I might take that deal. How bad is Horton's injury? Could be a deal breaker, don't want a $4m guy with concussion issues that'll only be good for 40 games a year.

  If Boston was to trade Rask that would be a complete mistake on Chiarelli's part. He's what, 24? Thomas has 1 year left on his current deal and there's been rumblings that he's going to be moved after the season to shed salary and his NMC is up.
  
  According to Bob McKenzie who is the most legit guy out there when it comes to NHL rumors, he said the Kings and the Rangers are the front runners for Nash.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  The_Crosby_Show;1088510 wrote:If Boston was to trade Rask that would be a complete mistake on Chiarelli's part. He's what, 24? Thomas has 1 year left on his current deal and there's been rumblings that he's going to be moved after the season to shed salary and his NMC is up.
  
  According to Bob McKenzie who is the most legit guy out there when it comes to NHL rumors, he said the Kings and the Rangers are the front runners for Nash.

  i've heard the same thing about LA and NY. Honestly don't think NY has the talent to offer Cbus like LA, Philly and Bos do. I know boston is a long shot, but IMO i'd rather a top 3 forward than Rask. I think it's easier to find a goalie than a consistent first line threat.
• gorocks99

  

  Would anyone be opposed to getting Jonathan Bernier and Jack Johnson in exchange for Nash? Would it have to be Bernier and Brown to work with LA?
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  Some more Nash talk on ESPN, they also think it's going to come down to NY or LA. I'd rather him stay in the west as a bruins fan.
  
  http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/14723/rumblings-despite-mutual-interest-trading-rick-nash-to-red-wings-not-likely-to-happen
  
  
  
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  gorocks99;1088631 wrote:Would anyone be opposed to getting Jonathan Bernier and Jack Johnson in exchange for Nash? Would it have to be Bernier and Brown to work with LA?

  Solid offer.
• gorocks99

  

  My thoughts too, I could live with either of those trades. I'm guessing LA is the front runner, they have the need and the assets. Only question is, can Howson hold out to get the deal he wants from them.
• TedSheckler

  

  Bernier is still a young guy with not a lot of experience. It's a risk.
  
  I can't see the Rangers breaking up that team to get Nash. They are in first place without him. Do you disrupt the dressing room to get Nash? They don't need him.
• Raw Dawgin' it

  

  TedSheckler;1088689 wrote:Bernier is still a young guy with not a lot of experience. It's a risk.
  
  I can't see the Rangers breaking up that team to get Nash. They are in first place without him. Do you disrupt the dressing room to get Nash? They don't need him.

  I think the Rangers are looking long term if they pick up Nash, not necessarily this season. I do agree though that NYR shouldn't make any moves since they're clearly the best team right now.
• gorocks99

  

  http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/14742/daily-debate-trade-floodgates-open
  

  And of course the biggest name of all, when it comes to defensemen on the trade market, is Jack Johnson in Los Angeles. I had a few team executives this week tell me he’s in play but only for the type of deal that hands the Kings the top-line forward they’ve been craving. Shut out 1-0 at home by Phoenix Thursday night, I have to imagine Kings GM Dean Lombardi will be even more determined in his efforts to land Rick Nash. Jeff Carter and Ales Hemsky are other possibilities. The Kings can’t score and must make the playoffs. Lots of pressure there.

• gorocks99

  

  Also, word is the Jackets are asking for 3-5 assets for Nash. So, Johnson, Bernier, +1. That'd be a good haul.
• TedSheckler

  

  gorocks99;1088809 wrote:Also, word is the Jackets are asking for 3-5 assets for Nash. So, Johnson, Bernier, +1. That'd be a good haul.

  No, I don't like it at all. Carter could almost pull that in. Plus Carter would have his drinking buddy back.
• gorocks99

  

  No way would the Kings pull a trigger on that trade for Carter. We'd be lucky if they'd do Carter for Johnson straight up. Carter's stock has plummeted this year.
• said_aouita

  

  chicago510;1088142 wrote:Sports with a hard salary cap cannot have multiple stars on one team. See what happened to the Blackhawks after they won the cup 2 years ago. Team was STACKED, but they had to shed salary like crazy afterwards. I just don't think you get how hockey works.

  You are probably right. It's been years since I've attended a game and I don't follow it as closely as other sports.
  Sharing my hockey history- first taste of NHL hockey was as a college kid in Michigan. Paul Coffey and Stevie Y were two of my favorite players.
  
  I'm just wondering from a business point of view. For example- the TV contract. With NBC/Versus they have a 10 year/$2 billion national TV rights contract.
  If the NHL is over a 1.9 rating, they are opening up the champagne. I believe if they had higher ratings, they'd get an even better TV contract= more $$$.
• End of Line

  

  said_aouita;1089163 wrote:You are probably right. It's been years since I've attended a game and I don't follow it as closely as other sports.
  Sharing my hockey history- first taste of NHL hockey was as a college kid in Michigan. Paul Coffey and Stevie Y were two of my favorite players.
  
  I'm just wondering from a business point of view. For example- the TV contract. With NBC/Versus they have a 10 year/$2 billion national TV rights contract.
  If the NHL is over a 1.9 rating, they are opening up the champagne. I believe if they had higher ratings, they'd get an even better TV contract= more $$$.

  That's the best TV deal the NHL has ever had. Each year since the lockout, ratings have been going up significantly. Smart thinking there bud.
• said_aouita

  

  The_Crosby_Show;1089319 wrote: Each year since the lockout, ratings have been going up significantly. .

  Really? Define significantly.
• Classyposter58

  

  Why would anyone with a hard cap want to absorb that $7.8 million hit? He's a great player but how great exactly? He's been marooned in Columbus since fall of 2002 and he hasn't exactly put up banner numbers
• Classyposter58

  

  said_aouita;1089407 wrote:Really? Define significantly.

  The year after the lockout the TV ratings for the '06 Stanley Cup Finals were at a 1.7 rating average, last year the Stanley Cup Finals were at a 5.7 rating and the Winter Classic ratings have been hanging around 2.5 the last few years.
  
  In comparison the NBA Finals last year averaged a 10.2 rating, World Series had an 11.3 rating, the Masters with a 10.5, the BCS National Title with a 14 and the Super Bowl had a 47.8 rating
• said_aouita

  

  Classyposter58;1090171 wrote:The year after the lockout the TV ratings for the '06 Stanley Cup Finals were at a 1.7 rating average, last year the Stanley Cup Finals were at a 5.7 rating and the Winter Classic ratings have been hanging around 2.5 the last few years.

  Do they show anywhere what percentage of that 5.7 rating was from the Boston-Eastern states?
• Classyposter58

  

  said_aouita;1090181 wrote:Do they show anywhere what percentage of that 5.7 rating was from the Boston-Eastern states?

  Ohh it was huge