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Blue Jackets looking to trade Rick Nash?

  • Tiernan
    I doubt Nash ever leaves...Phoenix.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    said_aouita;1087328 wrote:I must not have been clear enough for you. True Rick Nash will NEVER be the same as Lin, unless he can become Asian, attended an Ivy League school and has a nice cross over. Sorry you missed the analogy.

    I'm saying it's important for the NHL's stars to be in the larger markets. I tried comparing how being in NYC can make an athlete a star overnight. Keep thinking of Gretzsky being traded to LA right after Edmonton won the Stanley Cup, which was because of money. The NHL needs it's stars in larger markets....imo.
    lol so i guess Calgary should trade Iginla, Caroline should trade Staal, Tampa Bay should trade Stamkos, Ottawa should trade Spezza, Winnipeg should trade E. Kane, Buffalo should trade R. Miller all to BIG MARKET cities like Boston, LA and NYC. Not to mention all the players San Jose, Nashville, Colorado, Dallas, Phoenix and Anaheim should trade.

    You're a fucking idiot.
  • said_aouita
    Raw Dawgin' it;1087437 wrote:lol so i guess Calgary should trade Iginla, Caroline should trade Staal, Tampa Bay should trade Stamkos, Ottawa should trade Spezza, Winnipeg should trade E. Kane, Buffalo should trade R. Miller all to BIG MARKET cities like Boston, LA and NYC. Not to mention all the players San Jose, Nashville, Colorado, Dallas, Phoenix and Anaheim should trade.

    You're a fucking idiot.
    My bad. I thought Nash was better then all of them. If he's just some run of the mill 2nd team all star, like a bunch of other players, ok....whatever.
    I do believe it's important for the elite NHL players to be in the large markets. Who knows, I could be wrong about that. Maybe the NHL is content with their current TV ratings.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    said_aouita;1087481 wrote:My bad. I thought Nash was better then all of them. If he's just some run of the mill 2nd team all star, like a bunch of other players, ok....whatever.
    I do believe it's important for the elite NHL players to be in the large markets. Who knows, I could be wrong about that. Maybe the NHL is content with their current TV ratings.
    Even if he is better your argument of all big name players, which the ones i listed are, being in big city markets is moronic. How about the NFL, NBA and NHL only have teams in Boston, NYC, LA and Chicago, that should fix the problem.

    Kevin Durant gets a ton of attention and he plays in fucking Oklahoma, wouldn't exactly call that big market.
  • gorocks99
    "National" media (aka ESPN) doesn't give a rip about anyone not named Crosby or Ovechkin. The league pushed those two so hard post-lockout that the myriad of other young talent hardly gets noticed on a national stage. Guys like Nash, Giroux, Datsyuk, Stamkos, Toews ... all very good to great players, but all with less media hype than Crosby or Ovi.

    Not saying those two don't deserve to be hyped, but if you're gonna make the NHL a star-based league (like the NBA) you gotta push all​ your stars. Get them out there, in commericals, in interviews, in the media in general.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    gorocks99;1087501 wrote:"National" media (aka ESPN) doesn't give a rip about anyone not named Crosby or Ovechkin. The league pushed those two so hard post-lockout that the myriad of other young talent hardly gets noticed on a national stage. Guys like Nash, Giroux, Datsyuk, Stamkos, Toews ... all very good to great players, but all with less media hype than Crosby or Ovi.

    Not saying those two don't deserve to be hyped, but if you're gonna make the NHL a star-based league (like the NBA) you gotta push all​ your stars. Get them out there, in commericals, in interviews, in the media in general.
    Crosby has been out for god knows how long and Ovi is in a huge slump...they really need to get off these guys.
  • Y-Town Steelhound
    IMO you don't trade Nash unless you're doing a COMPLETE overhaul of the team. That includes coach and front office. The fact is that Rick Nash is the face of the franchise and obviously the best player in franchise history. He's also the only guy on the roster capable of making the All-Star team next year and being Columbus' representative when they host the game. I don't think any contender has the assets to truly give the Jackets fair market value for Nash. IMO you try to move Carter and Mason as best as you can, let the season play out, hopefully get Nail in the draft, then move forward with Nash and Nail as the centerpieces.
  • Laley23
    NHL is pathetic in its marketing. Its the NHL, so it wont ever get the appeal of the other 3 sports, but it can and should be bigger. Guys like Datsuyk/Zetterberg/Franzen, Stamkos, Giroux, Towes/Kane/Sharpie, etc are not wel known AT ALL. Really only in their city and surrounding area or by hockey fans. They are ridiculously talented, and the more players are marketed the better for the league.

    Hell, a lot of those guys I mentioned have a stanley cup. and SIX of them are on Detroit/Chicago. Its a joke. The NHL had a chance to push the up and coming stars and the guys who had just entered their prime and they decided not too. They stayed with only Sid and Ovi.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    Y-Town Steelhound;1087517 wrote:IMO you don't trade Nash unless you're doing a COMPLETE overhaul of the team. That includes coach and front office. The fact is that Rick Nash is the face of the franchise and obviously the best player in franchise history. He's also the only guy on the roster capable of making the All-Star team next year and being Columbus' representative when they host the game. I don't think any contender has the assets to truly give the Jackets fair market value for Nash. IMO you try to move Carter and Mason as best as you can, let the season play out, hopefully get Nail in the draft, then move forward with Nash and Nail as the centerpieces.
    No one wants those two. Carter is a huge baby and Mason shouldn't be a starter. Granted Carter has the talent, but man did his stock take a hit, all he's done is complain about being in Cbus. Mason had a great rookie year and should probably be in the minors to get the stress of being a starting goalie off his shoulders. I'd only take a chance on Carter if i were a top 4 team in a conference, other wise he's worthless IMO

    LA, NYR, Bos (would have no problem with them trading Rask, a prospect and draft pick for nash), Van and Philly have the young players and assets to make it a fair trade. I do agree they probably need a new GM, they have a horrible draft track record.

    Since i'm not a Cbus fan, i'd love to see him get traded and see how he does on a playoff contender.
  • Y-Town Steelhound
    Raw Dawgin' it;1087523 wrote:No one wants those two. Carter is a huge baby and Mason shouldn't be a starter. Granted Carter has the talent, but man did his stock take a hit, all he's done is complain about being in Cbus. Mason had a great rookie year and should probably be in the minors to get the stress of being a starting goalie off his shoulders. I'd only take a chance on Carter if i were a top 4 team in a conference, other wise he's worthless IMO

    LA, NYR, Bos (would have no problem with them trading Rask, a prospect and draft pick for nash), Van and Philly have the young players and assets to make it a fair trade. I do agree they probably need a new GM, they have a horrible draft track record.

    Since i'm not a Cbus fan, i'd love to see him get traded and see how he does on a playoff contender.

    Oh trust me I know they're worthless, which is why I would take ANYTHING to get them off the team. They're simply locker room cancers along with Brassard who's also worthless. I just don't think that Nash is the problem, and I don't necessarily know how playing on a contending team would work for him. He did well in the Olympics but has never really had to deal with the pressures of a major market, plus he likes Columbus (hence the giant contract he signed). I do think they need to strip him of his "C" though to send a message.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Brassard is a bitch, I was pumped about drafting him. I thought he'd be awesome. Nothing but a disappointment.
  • Azubuike24
    Brassard is actually NOT worthless. Some of the others, for sure.

    Vermette? Umberger? Huselius? These guys were the mistakes. Not Brassard. While he hasn't dominated, he's not the problem.
  • said_aouita
    Raw Dawgin' it;1087494 wrote:Even if he is better your argument of all big name players, which the ones i listed are, being in big city markets is moronic. How about the NFL, NBA and NHL only have teams in Boston, NYC, LA and Chicago, that should fix the problem.

    Kevin Durant gets a ton of attention and he plays in fucking Oklahoma, wouldn't exactly call that big market.
    Not enough people are willing to get the NHL cable package to see one star on every team. NHL ratings are horrible. Saturate the big cities with the best players. IMO- That would help marketing and ratings.

    I'm only giving the opinion of a casual hockey fan.
  • queencitybuckeye
    The team trading away the best player ends up being the loser in a trade the majority of the time.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Azubuike24;1087674 wrote:Brassard is actually NOT worthless. Some of the others, for sure.

    Vermette? Umberger? Huselius? These guys were the mistakes. Not Brassard. While he hasn't dominated, he's not the problem.
    A #6 draft pick with a career average .5 points per game is a bust. Period.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    said_aouita;1087753 wrote:Not enough people are willing to get the NHL cable package to see one star on every team. NHL ratings are horrible. Saturate the big cities with the best players. IMO- That would help marketing and ratings.

    I'm only giving the opinion of a casual hockey fan.
    What's the point of having a league if only a select few teams should have the top players? This is moronic and not even worth arguing.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    queencitybuckeye;1087763 wrote:The team trading away the best player ends up being the loser in a trade the majority of the time.
    Winnipeg and Dallas both traded their top players and both are in still in playoff contention. Boston Bruins traded their best forward and won the stanley cup two years later. I don't think this statement really hold much water, that and top players like this aren't often moved.
  • gorocks99
    Yeah, in terms of "big" trades the past few years ...

    Bruins traded Kessel to the Leafs
    Senators traded Heatley to the Sharks (although Heatley probably wasn't ever their #1, that goes to Alfredsson)
    Panthers traded Bouwmeester to the Flames

    Trying to think of more big names that have moved recently but drawing a blank. Doesn't happen too often but if teams are smart about it they can come out ahead.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    gorocks99;1087800 wrote:Yeah, in terms of "big" trades the past few years ...

    Bruins traded Kessel to the Leafs
    Senators traded Heatley to the Sharks (although Heatley probably wasn't ever their #1, that goes to Alfredsson)
    Panthers traded Bouwmeester to the Flames

    Trying to think of more big names that have moved recently but drawing a blank. Doesn't happen too often but if teams are smart about it they can come out ahead.
    I don't know how Atlanta never did well, The had Heatley, Kovalchuck, Kari Lehtonen, Marc Savard, Marian Hossa, Bobby Holik. Not sure if Heatley was gone by the time they picked up Hossa, but even still, they had a lot of stars on that team.

    Now in Winnipeg they're virtually nameless.
  • End of Line
    gorocks99;1087800 wrote:Yeah, in terms of "big" trades the past few years ...

    Bruins traded Kessel to the Leafs
    Senators traded Heatley to the Sharks (although Heatley probably wasn't ever their #1, that goes to Alfredsson)
    Panthers traded Bouwmeester to the Flames

    Trying to think of more big names that have moved recently but drawing a blank. Doesn't happen too often but if teams are smart about it they can come out ahead.
    There was a pretty big trade last year that came out no where. Johnson being traded to Colorado for Stewart/Shattenkirk and Hossa being traded to pens in 08, Kovalchuk being traded to the Devils in 2010 come to mind as well.
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    Raw Dawgin' it;1087827 wrote:I don't know how Atlanta never did well, The had Heatley, Kovalchuck, Kari Lehtonen, Marc Savard, Marian Hossa, Bobby Holik. Not sure if Heatley was gone by the time they picked up Hossa, but even still, they had a lot of stars on that team.

    Now in Winnipeg they're virtually nameless.
    Healtey and Hossa were traded for each other.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    The_Crosby_Show;1087880 wrote:Healtey and Hossa were traded for each other.
    thanks. Even so, they had a boat load of talent through out the year.
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    Raw Dawgin' it;1087894 wrote:thanks. Even so, they had a boat load of talent through out the year.
    Atlanta just never got it together due to poor coaching and having an ass hat of a GM.

    Ottawa was also loaded for years and never did anything except go to the SCF in 07.
  • End of Line
    Nucks not on Rick Nash's 'approved list', says Columbus writer Aaron Portzline. The five are: Leafs, Bruins, NYR, Sharks, Kings. #canucks
    https://twitter.com/#!/ElliottPap/status/170232345654345728
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    peace out horton and rask and bring in Nash. I'm down, i think we could find a goalie in the next 2 years to replace thomas.