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NBA Players that surprised you

  • Skyhook79
    wildcats20;1029686 wrote:JJ couldn't and still can't get his own shot.
    He was a lottery pick ,I think they had expectations that he would be a knock down 3 pt shooter and he hasn't been. He is also shooting Free throws 6% worse than in College. I think it is the same distance in the Pro's.
  • SportsAndLady
    Wayne Simien
  • Hb31187
    Skyhook79;1029644 wrote:Worse: Chris Duhon
    JJ Red****
    Shelden Williams
    Mike Dunleavy
    Dhantay Jones
    Trajan Langdon
    Shavlik Randolph
    John Wall
    Jeff Green

    Better: Kevin Love
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    James Harden
    Stephen Curry
    Russell Westbrook
    Al Horford
    How much better of a rookie year did you want Wall to have lmao?

    16ppg 8 apg and 5 rpg 2spg as a rookie playing 69 games
  • GOONx19
    Skyhook79;1029644 wrote:Worse: Chris Duhon
    JJ Reddick
    Shelden Williams
    Mike Dunleavy
    Dhantay Jones
    Trajan Langdon
    Shavlik Randolph
    John Wall
    Jeff Green

    Better: Kevin Love
    Lamarcus Aldridge
    James Harden
    Stephen Curry
    Russell Westbrook
    Al Horford
    ??
  • Commander of Awesome
    My guess is that he expected Wall to come in like Rose, and Wall has been hit a bit by the injury bug in his young NBA career.
  • GOONx19
    Rose: 16.8 ppg, 6.3 assists, 3.9 rebounds, 0.8 steals
    Wall: 16.4 ppg, 8.3 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 1.8 steals

    I'd say Wall was better than Rose his rookie year. His team just wasn't a playoff team.
  • Azubuike24
    I find it comical that people think Wall isn't that good. Dude dropped over 8 dimes in his rookie year and plays on one of the worst teams in the entire league. Yet he's overrated...
  • Commander of Awesome
    Azubuike24;1029842 wrote:I find it comical that people think Wall isn't that good. Dude dropped over 8 dimes in his rookie year and plays on one of the worst teams in the entire league. Yet he's overrated...
    Its common that people don't think he's good? Perhaps he doesn't get the pub that Rose got because he plays in Washington on a horrible team but I haven't heard any negativity towards him other than he misses games.
  • Ironman92
    Lol skyhook

    I've got to stop so he will as well.
  • Skyhook79
    Hb31187;1029707 wrote:How much better of a rookie year did you want Wall to have lmao?

    16ppg 8 apg and 5 rpg 2spg as a rookie playing 69 games
    He can't shoot (40% & 29% from 3's) and he turns the ball over (4 per game, 2nd most in the league) way too much and has one of the lowest assist/turnover ratio's in the league for pg. I expected more for a #1 pick.
  • Skyhook79
    Azubuike24;1029842 wrote:I find it comical that people think Wall isn't that good. Dude dropped over 8 dimes in his rookie year and plays on one of the worst teams in the entire league. Yet he's overrated...
    Dude also gave 4 dimes back a game.
  • GOONx19
    Skyhook79;1029896 wrote:He can't shoot (40% & 29% from 3's) and he turns the ball over (4 per game, 2nd most in the league) way too much and has one of the lowest assist/turnover ratio's in the league for pg. I expected more for a #1 pick.
    Derrick Rose's Assist/TO ratio last year was only 0.08 higher per game than Wall's. Rose only shot 22% from three his rookie year, and he was a #1 pick too.

    You're making it out like Rose was unbelievable his rookie year, and he very well may have been better than Wall, but he didn't really make the leap to great until this past season.
  • Skyhook79
    GOONx19;1030011 wrote:Derrick Rose's Assist/TO ratio last year was only 0.08 higher per game than Wall's. Rose only shot 22% from three his rookie year, and he was a #1 pick too.

    You're making it out like Rose was unbelievable his rookie year, and he very well may have been better than Wall, but he didn't really make the leap to great until this past season.
    When did I say anything about Rose?
  • GOONx19
    Skyhook79;1030022 wrote:When did I say anything about Rose?
    My bad, I guess I confused CoA's post a few posts back with something you said. Now that I brought it up, though: did you think Rose was disappointing his rookie year, or did you expect Wall to be a better rookie than Rose coming in?
  • Azubuike24
    Commander of Awesome;1029846 wrote:Its common that people don't think he's good? Perhaps he doesn't get the pub that Rose got because he plays in Washington on a horrible team but I haven't heard any negativity towards him other than he misses games.
    I used "isn't that good" in place of "overrated." Maybe it's because he had some sky-high expectations, but still. Perception by most is that Wall had a bad rookie season...and if you saw his numbers and watched him play on a trainwreck of a team, it just isn't true. In-fact, he had a very good season given the circumstances...
  • bigdaddy2003
    Rondo and Kevin Love are the main two for me.

    I'm one of the only people it seems that would have taken Durant over Oden on draft day.
  • Heretic
    Growing up, Lou Roe was a surprise disappointment for me just because of how solid he was with UMass.

    But that was before I understood concepts like not really having a pro position because of being too small to play an NBA power position and not being skilled enough to move down to a 3.