Cleveland Browns @ Oakland Raiders: Week 6

• DeyDurkie5

  

  BGFalcons82;935986 wrote:Don't live in the past. They've had 3 games sold out so far in 2011, including today's game. Next week is KC and that always draws a crowd to the East Bay. I realize the Browns are off to a rough start, but I'm not sure why there's so much hatred for the team that dominated them today.

  umm, dominated isn't the right word. bullshit fake field goal and a bullshit kick return won the game for the raiders. Why do you even care that people on a ohio based message board are talking shit about the raiders? Fuck jason campbell
• like_that

  

  BGFalcons82;935990 wrote:Hey mulva....how 'bout Jacoby Ford, eh? I thought he was "garbage"? And regarding DHB, if he was so sad as you claimed, why did your boy Patterson give him a 10 to 15 yard cushion on the line of scrimmage? He wasn't afraid of being toasted, now was he? While we're at it...how many balls did he drop today?

  You realize the Raiders offense isn't what won them the game, right?
• shook_17

  

  DeyDurkie5;936001 wrote:umm, dominated isn't the right word. bull**** fake field goal and a bull**** kick return won the game for the raiders. Why do you even care that people on a ohio based message board are talking **** about the raiders? **** jason campbell

  lol amen durkie
• BGFalcons82

  

  DeyDurkie5;936001 wrote:umm, dominated isn't the right word. bullshit fake field goal and a bullshit kick return won the game for the raiders. Why do you even care that people on a ohio based message board are talking shit about the raiders? Fuck jason campbell

  If the league hadn't decided to honor Al with 3 attempts in the final 5 minutes at screwing his franchise for about the 100th time, the score wouldn't have been nearly as close. Yeah...F Jason Campbell. Got any more empathy for a guy with a broken collarbone? I heard he played today with a scratchy throat...that makes him a better man than Peyton Sniffle-wuss.
• dazedconfused

  

  jacoby ford was pretty f***ing fast on that return. also really liked the raiders offensive play-calling...kept us on our toes all day. really sucks what happened to jason campbell. maybe a call to david garrard will be in order
• like_that

  

  BGFalcons82;936014 wrote:If the league hadn't decided to honor Al with 3 attempts in the final 5 minutes at screwing his franchise for about the 100th time, the score wouldn't have been nearly as close. Yeah...F Jason Campbell. Got any more empathy for a guy with a broken collarbone? I heard he played today with a scratchy throat...that makes him a better man than Peyton Sniffle-wuss.

  You root for a west coast based franchise, and you live in Ohio. Do yourself a favor and stfu.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  BGFalcons82;936014 wrote:If the league hadn't decided to honor Al with 3 attempts in the final 5 minutes at screwing his franchise for about the 100th time, the score wouldn't have been nearly as close. Yeah...F Jason Campbell. Got any more empathy for a guy with a broken collarbone? I heard he played today with a scratchy throat...that makes him a better man than Peyton Sniffle-wuss.

  what the fuck are you talking about in that first part? No, I could give two shits about some random athlete i have never met. He didn't die, he broke a bone. He can go fuck himself
• SportsAndLady

  

  BGFalcons82;936014 wrote:that makes him a better man than Peyton Sniffle-wuss.

  lulz
• BGFalcons82

  

  like_that;936020 wrote:You root for a west coast based franchise, and you live in Ohio. Do yourself a favor and stfu.

  Yep. Always have rooted for the Raiders. Didn't know there was a law that living in Ohio meant you have be a Browns or Bengals fan. Hmmm...where'd all those steelhead fans come from anyways? Or those following America's Team? Damn...they are in violation as well.
  
  You know, when I'm feelin down, I dial up the YouTube video of Mike Davis taking a Brian Sipe pass in the Dog Pound and celebrating another victory.
• like_that

  

  BGFalcons82;936029 wrote:Yep. Always have rooted for the Raiders. Didn't know there was a law that living in Ohio meant you have be a Browns or Bengals fan. Hmmm...where'd all those steelhead fans come from anyways? Or those following America's Team? Damn...they are in violation as well.
  
  You know, when I'm feelin down, I dial up the YouTube video of Mike Davis taking a Brian Sipe pass in the Dog Pound and celebrating another victory.

  The classic "let me throw out some old memories to try to make myself look credible" post lol. I don't even know why you came on here yapping it up like an idiot. No one was talking shit about the Raiders.
• Mulva

  

  Snifflewuss. lol
• Mulva

  

  BGFalcons82;935990 wrote:Hey mulva....how 'bout Jacoby Ford, eh? I thought he was "garbage"?

  3 catches for 43 yards? Studly. Almost doubled his season total!
  
  I chose to go with the receiving stats because there's no way you would possibly be implying that his ability as a kick returner means he's good at playing wide receiver. At least not as good as "Best Receiver Not Named Jerry Rice" candidates Dante Hall, Az-Zahir Hakim, Josh Cribbs or Eddie Drummond are at it.
  
  In fairness to him, I'm sure he would have had more catches if Denarius "lol at everyone who picked me up in fantasy football after 1 good week" Moore, Chaz "gayest first name possible" Schilens and Derek "Hey guys! I used to be on the Giants!" Hagan weren't taking so many receptions away from him.
  
  Oh wait, the 3 of them had a combined 1 catch for 9 yards and Oakland had a total of 178 passing yards. And 35 of those were by the punter.
  
  Kudos to Jacoby for being 1 of 2 Raiders to catch more than 1 pass today, though.
  
  And just to address the part of your post I didn't quote, I'm pretty sure I said DHB had the most potential of any of their receivers, and that he was one of the couple of receivers who wasn't garbage. So totally in my face on that one too.
  
  Summary: You got me. Big time.
• BR1986FB

  Biggest thing I noticed was that the Browns lack serious speed, the linebackers suck and McCoy's fabled "accuracy" is nothing more than a myth. This team better hope Indianapolis & Miami pull 3 wins out of their ass so they (Browns) are in the Luck Sweepstakes.
• georgemc80

  BGFalcons82;936014 wrote:If the league hadn't decided to honor Al with 3 attempts in the final 5 minutes at screwing his franchise for about the 100th time, the score wouldn't have been nearly as close. Yeah...F Jason Campbell. Got any more empathy for a guy with a broken collarbone? I heard he played today with a scratchy throat...that makes him a better man than Peyton Sniffle-wuss.

  
  Please the league honored Davis by making sure the Raiders won last week.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  I don't know how anyone can honestly evaluate McCoy as a QB when there are so many negative variables working against him at this point.
  
  The OL played its second game in a row together as a unit. Guess what: it looked like it.
  
  Little looked pretty good one some of the routes and should have had a TD or pulled in that pass at about the one yard line. The ball was perfectly thrown and he simply didn't catch it. Think how much better he and Mo Mass would be if there was an AJ Green-type receiver pulling two defenders regularly in a game?
  
  Hillis was hurt so we arguably didn't have the best runner on the field for most of the game.
  
  The defense allowed two long drives that ate up more than one quarter of the game. Their inability to get off the field cost the offense at least two or three possessions.
  
  Special teams decided to implode all on one day and give up 14 points (in a seven point game).
  
  Yet somehow yesterday falls on McCoy's shoulders?
  
  I'm not an apologist, but this team had zero off season to work in a new system and get familiar with one another, and honestly it's showing on both sides of the ball at this point.
  
  I want at least the remainder of this season before even starting to make a judgment on McCoy as the QB for this team...and truth be told we should probably hold our evaluations for at least part of next season as well since he'll have only had about 1 1/2 seasons of experience under center.
  
  Do you really want to ditch someone that quickly and start over again? I don't. I think this front office will get the personnel needed that might make such a change unnecessary; even doing it slowly as they have by building only through the draft.
  
  Edited to add: I will say this...if one of the top QB's in next year's class falls into their hands, I'd have no problem with drafting them as insurance. Even if both QBs end up developing, I wouldn't consider it a waste since one could be traded for players or picks.
• like_that

  

  Writerbuckeye;936691 wrote:I don't know how anyone can honestly evaluate McCoy as a QB when there are so many negative variables working against him at this point.
  
  The OL played its second game in a row together as a unit. Guess what: it looked like it.
  
  Little looked pretty good one some of the routes and should have had a TD or pulled in that pass at about the one yard line. The ball was perfectly thrown and he simply didn't catch it. Think how much better he and Mo Mass would be if there was an AJ Green-type receiver pulling two defenders regularly in a game?
  
  Hillis was hurt so we arguably didn't have the best runner on the field for most of the game.
  
  The defense allowed two long drives that ate up more than one quarter of the game. Their inability to get off the field cost the offense at least two or three possessions.
  
  Special teams decided to implode all on one day and give up 14 points (in a seven point game).
  
  Yet somehow yesterday falls on McCoy's shoulders?
  
  I'm not an apologist, but this team had zero off season to work in a new system and get familiar with one another, and honestly it's showing on both sides of the ball at this point.
  
  I want at least the remainder of this season before even starting to make a judgment on McCoy as the QB for this team...and truth be told we should probably hold our evaluations for at least part of next season as well since he'll have only had about 1 1/2 seasons of experience under center.
  
  Do you really want to ditch someone that quickly and start over again? I don't. I think this front office will get the personnel needed that might make such a change unnecessary; even doing it slowly as they have by building only through the draft.
  
  Edited to add: I will say this...if one of the top QB's in next year's class falls into their hands, I'd have no problem with drafting them as insurance. Even if both QBs end up developing, I wouldn't consider it a waste since one could be traded for players or picks.

  I completely agree. Not sure why everyone expected Colt to be putting up Manning type numbers in his first full year, especially with no offseason.
• zach24oz

  Good points, but he HAS to make better throws there at the end and give themselves a chance to win. When he has 3 downs to get 3 yards and cannot get it done, that tells me a lot. Either they didnt have that good of plays called or he can't find anyone open and throw a good ball too...He has had some big accuracy issues though, you can't disagree with that. And I understand that the OL hasnt been the greatest but he's supposed to be at his best when he's moving around I he still looks bad trying to get it to receivers down the field.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  zach24oz;936858 wrote:Good points, but he HAS to make better throws there at the end and give themselves a chance to win. When he has 3 downs to get 3 yards and cannot get it done, that tells me a lot. Either they didnt have that good of plays called or he can't find anyone open and throw a good ball too...He has had some big accuracy issues though, you can't disagree with that. And I understand that the OL hasnt been the greatest but he's supposed to be at his best when he's moving around I he still looks bad trying to get it to receivers down the field.

  That's just it: he seems to be much better rolling out, and yet Shurmur has very few called plays that make use of him this way, that I can see.
  
  Also, I don't know what plays were called during that last drive, so it's hard to evaluate what went wrong. I'm sure the coaching staff will let us all know what the plan was supposed to be, real soon. Not having Hillis on that last drive really hurt, too. He's a much better receiver than Hardesty.
  
  If Hillis is going to keep being dinged up, I think we need to see some of Mr. Smith. His speed might have presented problems on the outside for Oakland.