Random NFL Chatter

• Sonofanump

  karen lotz;912789 wrote:Do they tell a defensive lineman he is lined up offside? Or do they tell the quarterback that the offense is lined up in an illegal formation before they snap the ball?

  We will tell a DL if he is close. We will tell a WR if he is lined up incorrectly in an illegal formation.
• karen lotz

  

  Sonofanump;912831 wrote:We will tell a DL if he is close. We will tell a WR if he is lined up incorrectly in an illegal formation.

  
  So why do those penalties ever get called?
• karen lotz

  

  Pick6;912829 wrote:oh! no way, really!? I think I know how to read.
  
  Guess what, how the WRs are lined up directly correlates to being in a legal or illegal formation. Why would the ref run and tell the QB (LOL) when he can just tell the WR and fix it most of the time?

  
  There are other ways to line up illegally. Why fix it "most" of the time?
• queencitybuckeye

  Sonofanump;912831 wrote:We will tell a DL if he is close. We will tell a WR if he is lined up incorrectly in an illegal formation.

  If it's an illegal formation, how do you know that "your" WR is the culprit?
• hasbeen

  

  karen lotz;912789 wrote:Do they tell a defensive lineman he is lined up offside? Or do they tell the quarterback that the offense is lined up in an illegal formation before they snap the ball?

  
  Because they are judgement calls.
• wildcats20

  

  lol At Deangelo Hall.
  
  Really? Not a facemask? You GRABBED Dez's mask. That is a facemask penalty you dumbass. Maybe if you focused more on your play and not trying to hurt Romo, you wouldn't have been TORCHED last night.
• Laley23

  

  queencitybuckeye;912861 wrote:If it's an illegal formation, how do you know that "your" WR is the culprit?

  He is an official. He knows if the WR is wrong. He isnt speaking as a coach.
• Sonofanump

  karen lotz;912852 wrote:So why do those penalties ever get called?

  We try not to, but the problem is deception when the TE is covered up.
• karen lotz

  

  Laley23;912899 wrote:He is an official. He knows if the WR is wrong. He isnt speaking as a coach.

  
  I think what he was saying is what if the WR to that side is lined up correctly? "Your" receiver would be the one on that line judges side.
• Sonofanump

  queencitybuckeye;912861 wrote:If it's an illegal formation, how do you know that "your" WR is the culprit?

  It's either the WR or the TE, we are 8 yards from the WR and 22 yards from the TE. We don't care which is supposed to be on the line and who is off the line.
• karen lotz

  

  Sonofanump;912911 wrote:It's either the WR or the TE, we are 8 yards from the WR and 22 yards from the TE. We don't care which is supposed to be on the line and who is off the line.

  
  And if a tackle is lined up in the backfield?
• DeyDurkie5

  

  dumb conversation keeps getting dumber.
• Sonofanump

  karen lotz;912913 wrote:And if a tackle is lined up in the backfield?

  He would be called a wingback, but not eligible to catch a forward pass by number.
• queencitybuckeye

  Laley23;912899 wrote:He is an official. He knows if the WR is wrong. He isnt speaking as a coach.

  How? What if there's another receiver (or receivers) on the other side also not on the line?
• karen lotz

  

  Sonofanump;912918 wrote:He would be called a wingback, but not eligible to catch a forward pass by number.

  
  No, I'm saying of he is lined up far enough off the LOS where he isn't considered on the line. Illegal formation, why don't you warn him before ball is snapped?
• Laley23

  

  queencitybuckeye;912928 wrote:How? What if there's another receiver (or receivers) on the other side also not on the line?

  I mean, the penalty is less than 7 on the LOS. Unless the offense is running with less than 5 OL, than the official is going to be able to say line-up on LOS or youre blocking the TE...
  
  If the same thing happens on both sides, you end up with at least 7 each time, right?
• Sonofanump

  queencitybuckeye;912928 wrote:How? What if there's another receiver (or receivers) on the other side also not on the line?

  Football games are usually played with officials on both sides of the line of scrimmage.
• Sonofanump

  karen lotz;912936 wrote:No, I'm saying of he is lined up far enough off the LOS where he isn't considered on the line. Illegal formation, why don't you warn him before ball is snapped?

  The umpire warns him to move up if possible.
• Laley23

  

  karen lotz;912936 wrote:No, I'm saying of he is lined up far enough off the LOS where he isn't considered on the line. Illegal formation, why don't you warn him before ball is snapped?

  I dont think that is illegal formation, unless his being absent means there arent 7 guys on the LOS (but an official cant know that. He can only know if the WR is covering the TE or not....). At some point the players have to do it themselves, but what is wrong with preventive officiating? It happens in EVERY sport. Basketball is the most prevalent, but it happens everywhere.
• Sonofanump

  Laley23;912937 wrote:I mean, the penalty is less than 7 on the LOS. Unless the offense is running with less than 5 OL, than the official is going to be able to say line-up on LOS or youre blocking the TE...
  
  If the same thing happens on both sides, you end up with at least 7 each time, right?

  I am not positive about the NFL, but the NCAA foul is for more than four in the backfield.
  
  Unless the offense is in kick formation, they must have 5 OL properly number on the line.
• Laley23

  

  Sonofanump;912944 wrote:I am not positive about the NFL, but the NCAA foul is for more than four in the backfield.
  
  Unless the offense is in kick formation, they must have 5 OL properly number on the line.

  yeah, I think that is only NCAA that cant have more than 4 in backfield. Im pretty sure NFL can have 4, as long as the LOS still has 7.
• queencitybuckeye

  Laley23;912937 wrote:I mean, the penalty is less than 7 on the LOS. Unless the offense is running with less than 5 OL, than the official is going to be able to say line-up on LOS or youre blocking the TE...
  
  If the same thing happens on both sides, you end up with at least 7 each time, right?

  Yes, with the possibility of creating ineligible receivers.
• Sonofanump

  queencitybuckeye;912986 wrote:Yes, with the possibility of creating ineligible receivers.

  Yes, but only if a legal forward pass is throw across the neutral zone do you have illegal man downfield. If the ineligible player is the first to touch the pass, it is illegal touching.
• Speedofsand

  

  
• fiction

  

  The Texans released RB Steve Slaton today. Somewhat odd timing with their injuries at RB, but I imagine he'll catch on with someone soon.