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Week 5: Atlanta Falcons @ Cleveland Browns

  • like_that
    Commander of Awesome;509272 wrote:Suh gets $5k for his powerslam of Delhomme. Right, something doesn't fit here. I bet its bc the bungals were crying so much.

    Power slam where he was trying to rip his head off. Ward was in a split second situation. Maybe he deserved a fine but not 15,000. I actually hope the Browns spot him at least 10,000 on the fine, so he isn't hesitant to do it again.
  • Art Modell
    If I'm a team debating whether to start Delhomme or Wallace then I'm in a world of trouble. hahahaaaaa
  • Art Modell
    Falcons by 14
  • KR1245
    I like the Browns chances in this one. Roddy White scares me but I think the Browns can control the running game of the Falcons.
  • iclfan2
    Commander of Awesome;509272 wrote:Suh gets $5k for his powerslam of Delhomme. Right, something doesn't fit here. I bet its bc the bungals were crying so much.
    The fine is crap. Most fines are 5-10k, yet Ward gets 15k. Absurd. And for the haters...hit with the SHOULDER:


    And the ball is still in the air! I guess Ward could have just stopped all his momentum going toward Shipley in a split second. If it was Stabbin Ray it would be a highlight on ESPN plays of the day about how tough defense is played.
  • BR1986FB
    iclfan2;510000 wrote:The fine is crap. Most fines are 5-10k, yet Ward gets 15k. Absurd. And for the haters...hit with the SHOULDER:


    And the ball is still in the air! I guess Ward could have just stopped all his momentum going toward Shipley in a split second. If it was Stabbin Ray it would be a highlight on ESPN plays of the day about how tough defense is played.

    Also pretty sure what made the hit look worse was that Shipley lowered his head in anticipation of the upcoming hit.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Figured some of you may be interested in checking this Fujita/Hillis video out. Be warned though, this video contains horrendous acting. Also Count the number of times they say "man" in the video.

    [video=youtube;nPzKI3-b6Sg][/video]
  • BR1986FB
    BTW....Marvin Lewis was on Sirius radio yesterday and said the TJ Ward hit is "a penalty in today's league but was an 'every game occurence' in the 'old' NFL." He also went on to say that he thinks Ward is going to be a "good player" and was pretty complimentary of Hillis.

    Also saw that the mouth that roared, TO, is claiming that "90% of Mangini's players hate him."
  • Non
    It looks pretty similar to Ryan Clark's hit on Wes Welker a few years ago.

    Deserved to be flagged but I still don't mind it if means sending a message.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=MMZAsZD9I3s&feature=related
  • buckeyes_woowee
    I will be at the game Sunday! I actually look for the Browns to win this one.
  • Non
    I'll say Falcons 24-17

    Competitive game. But I think Ryan will be the difference.
  • dat dude
    Non;510404 wrote:It looks pretty similar to Ryan Clark's hit on Wes Welker a few years ago.

    Deserved to be flagged but I still don't mind it if means sending a message.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=MMZAsZD9I3s&feature=related

    I see very few similarities in the two hits.
  • I drain 3's
    I'm thinking the Browns win their second in a row. hahahaaaaa
  • BR1986FB
    The Real Mad Dog

    By Fred Greetham
    OBR Browns Reporter
    Posted Oct 7, 2010

    Matt Roth has displayed "mad dog" like traits in his short time with Cleveland, and that is just fine with Roth, coach Eric Mangini and the Browns defense.


    BEREA, Ohio — Browns fans painfully remember in 1987 when the team traded linebacker Chip Banks and swapped first-and-second round picks in order to draft Mike Junkin from Duke with the fifth overall pick in the draft.

    Then scouting director, Dom Anile, said Junkin played like "a mad dog in a meat market."

    Matt Roth was told a former Browns linebacker was given the moniker and wondered if he would like that nickname.

    “My mom won’t, but I’ll take it.”

    Roth didn’t know it was used to describe one of the biggest draft busts in Browns’ history. However, if Roth continues to play like he did at the end of the 2009 season and against the Bengals last Sunday, he might be the real mad dog.

    Eric Mangini said that Roth plays angry.

    “He’s just strong,” Mangini said. “He’s physically strong. He wrestled in college, so he understands how to use leverage and angles and throw guys off. He had two sacks, but he had another rusher where he blew up a guard. He had another play against one of their tight ends where he threw him off.

    “It’s attrition with him,” Mangini added. “There are the ones that he gets and then there’s the other hits that happen over the course of the game which establishes a presence. He’s hard to block with a tight end, he can challenge any tackle that they put out there and he’s just angry. It’s a good angry.”

    Mangini was quick to point out that Roth doesn’t have anger issues.

    “No, not anger issues,” he said. “I never said anger issues. I said he plays angry. There’s no anger management issue that I’m talking about (joking). It was the same thing in New York getting ready for him.

    “We opened with Miami and I remember having discussions with (Brian) Schottenheimer saying, ‘This guy is really tough.’ We disagreed on how tough and I think he had two sacks against us. I was like, ‘He’s really tough, isn’t he?’ He’s developing as a linebacker too, which is nice to see.”

    Roth has two sacks last Sunday , including a big one on Carson Palmer at the end of the game that helped seal the Browns win.

    “I play with controlled anger,” Roth said. “I’m competitive when I’m out there. I like to run around and hit people.”

    Mangini said his ability to play the run and rush the passer is a rarity.

    “He’s just physically strong and aggressive,” Mangini said. “He can leverage his body. He had a couple of sacks, but there are other hits over the course of the game that establishes his presence.”

    Mangini said that Roth's opponents at tight end take a beating over the course of a game. Ben Watson said he was relieved when training camp finished because he didn’t have to go against Roth twice a day.

    “I can’t imagine lining up across from him because you know what’s coming,” Mangini said.

    Roth, at 6-foot-4 and 275 pounds, has 18 tackles on the season, including six last Sunday.

    “You want to play aggressive,” Roth said. “It’s infectious and guys feed off that. It’s always important. It’s physical. It’s not always going to be an easy day. Sometimes, when (the receivers) run around, catching routes, they are going to think twice about coming over the middle and they’re going to think twice of running it. It starts getting in their head a little bit and that’s always what you want as a defense.”

    Roth said he’s confident going up against any tight end in the NFL, in terms of taking him on in the blocking schemes. He was asked if there is a tight end that he cannot handle.

    “I haven’t seen him,” he said. “That’s my deal. I go to the tight end side and try to rough those guys up.”

    Roth says he knows early in a game if he can take advantage of his opponent.

    “You know going into to it that it’s going to be a mismatch and the team counts on me winning that mismatch,” Roth said. “That’s what I want to do.”

    Mangini was asked if it’s tough to decipher a player’s attitude on the field versus off the field when acquiring players.

    “I think it’s really important to make that distinction,” Mangini said. “That’s why it’s a driving factor in getting to know guys. You do have to dig deep to find out some of those things.”

    Mangini said that he will take as many physical players as he can.

    “I love that because you want as much of that as you can get,” he said. “You want the (offense) to have a price to pay over the course of the game.”

    Notebook

    Looks Like Jake (for real): QB Jake Delhomme came through Wednesday with no setbacks.

    “I am very encouraged," Delhomme said. "I think it will come down to how I’m able to execute the moves I need to make. But, I’m very encouraged.”

    Mangini agreed in his assessment prior to Thursday’s practice.

    “He came through pretty good,” Mangini said. “He did more than he did last week. It was a positive and we’ll play it by ear the rest of the week. Seneca (Wallace) got a lot of reps and both will be ready.”

    Mangini said he doesn’t think Delhomme will be 100 percent, nor does he need be to play.

    “At this point of the season, I don’t think anyone is 100 percent," Mangini said. "It’s more a function of being able to do what he needs to do to operate effectively.

    “Overall, I thought he threw the ball well.”

    Hardesty Sighting: RB Montario Hardesty was in the locker room on crutches getting ready for rehab from his ACL surgery to his left knee. He appeared as though he would talk, but then decided not to. He was using one crutch and putting weight on his injured leg.

    Injury Update: DL Kenyon Coleman (knee), OL Alex Mack (shoulder), DL Shaun Rogers (ankle, hip), DL Robaire Smith (back), DB Nick Sorenson (calf) and OL John St. Clair (ankle) all missed Wednesday’s practice. WR Josh Cribbs (ankle), QB Jake Delhomme (ankle), OL Shaun Lauvao (ankle) and WR Brian Robiskie (hamstring) had limited participation, while RB Jerome Harrison (thigh) fully participated.

    Mangini said that Rogers would practice Thursday, but the others would not.

    For the Falcons, only three players were listed on the injury report, all being questionable: WR Michael Jenkins (shoulder), LB Curtis Lofton (knee) and LB Sean Weatherspoon (ankle).

    JH in the Dog House?: Mangini was asked if RB Jerome Harrison was in the dog house as he didn’t receive any carries last week against Cincinnati.

    “No, not at all,” Mangini said. “He’ll probably have some opportunities this week."

    Harrison was on the field for the final three plays that the Browns kneeled in running out the clock.

    Harrison’s body language in the locker room last week suggested he was unhappy. Mangini said he hasn’t had any conversations with Harrison about playing time.

    “We haven’t had any talks,”

    http://cle.scout.com/2/1009706.html
  • like_that
    That is pretty impressive Roth wrestled in college. Iowa is a powerhouse wrestling program, and even if a guy never makes the starting lineup, if he goes through all 4 years he is a tough SOB. Matt Roth is a tough SOB. Handling a big ten football schedule and big ten wrestling schedule is ridiculous.
  • BR1986FB
    A lot of amateur wrestlers make for excellent football players.
  • like_that
    BR1986FB;510656 wrote:A lot of amateur wrestlers make for excellent football players.

    Especially for O-linemen, D-linemen, and linebackers.
  • BR1986FB
    Tru dat!
  • Non
    I think the similarities are that both safeties technically didn't lead with the helmet, they led with the elbow/shoulder but as they followed though there was also helmet to helmet contact.
  • Non
    Hate to say it but Browns fans are being typical Cleveland fans this week.

    One win and they've taken over the NFL.

    1-3 and again it's going to be a last place year with the rival Steelers and Ravens battling for championships
  • wes_mantooth
    Non;510715 wrote:Hate to say it but Browns fans are being typical Cleveland fans this week.

    One win and they've taken over the NFL.

    1-3 and again it's going to be a last place year with the rival Steelers and Ravens battling for championships
    Haven't seen much on here to indicate anything other than we glad to not go 0-16.
  • BR1986FB
    wes_mantooth;510719 wrote:Haven't seen much on here to indicate anything other than we glad to not go 0-16.

    No shit. What is this "typical Cleveland fans" and "taken over the NFL" crap? I think Atlanta is a VERY winnable game because I don't think they are that good, but this team as of now, is maybe a 5-6 win team. I had them at 7 wins prior to the season. Looks like that was off a bit.
  • SportsAndLady
    Considering we've been in the lead going into the 4th quarter in every game this year, I see no reason to not be at least semi-confident against Atlanta at home this Sunday. Doesn't mean we're taking over the NFL or saying we have a good team, they're just gonna be in most games this year.
  • BR1986FB
    SportsAndLady;510733 wrote:Considering we've been in the lead going into the 4th quarter in every game this year, I see no reason to not be at least semi-confident against Atlanta at home this Sunday. Doesn't mean we're taking over the NFL or saying we have a good team, they're just gonna be in most games this year.

    Yeah, I don't see them winning a bunch but I also don't see them getting blown out either.
  • Art Modell
    BR1986FB;510731 wrote:No shit. What is this "typical Cleveland fans" and "taken over the NFL" crap? I think Atlanta is a VERY winnable game because I don't think they are that good, but this team as of now, is maybe a 5-6 win team. I had them at 7 wins prior to the season. Looks like that was off a bit.

    I'm starting to lose respect for you BR. If you think this team will win 6 games you are nutz. The next 5 games: Atlanta Pittsburgh New Orleans New England NY Jets. You dont win none of those.