End of the Line for Michael Vick?

• Ender Wiggin

  

  Lol and what does you being next to a veternarian mean exactly? Nothing at all. Well other than idiots flock together I guess. Seriously th Not sure what youre trying to accomplish with that. And its funny you talk about me calling people names yet that was the basis of everyones post here, shall I quote everyone calling him names or telling others to STFU? Ya you did that too, so nice job pot calling the kettle black, you are the real POS here, and a stupid one at that. I think ive discussed while bringing up multiple points, which people wont answer, like SYL and Tiernan, and now you.
  
  Once again, where does it say he cant throw a party? And also, once again, why are you blaming him for something someone else did? If you had a party and I came and caused a scene, would it be ok for people to blame you?
  
  Because thats what you all are doing?
• Hb31187

  

  ytownfootball;413064 wrote:Oh...and by the way...who the fuck WASN'T invited. Look at the fucking poster. Anyone could buy a damn ticket, (just another example of outright, blatant, ex-con stupidity)

  
  Wasnt this guy( guy who got shot) a felon too? And he was probably told to not associate with those he got in trouble with too....So technically he was the one breaking the law id say
• ytownfootball

  

  Once again, where does it say he cant throw a party? And also, once again, why are you blaming him for something someone else did? If you had a party and I came and caused a scene, would it be ok for people to blame you?

  I'M NOT FUCKING BLAMING HIM FOR ANYTHING... HE'S ON FUCKING PROBATION ASSHOLE! God damn how stupid can some people be? Jesus H fucking Christ!
  
  
  
  
  
  lol
• ytownfootball

  

  Wasnt this guy a felon too?

  You mean Mike Vick?
  
  Don't throw the fuckin' party numnutz.
• LJ

  

  Ender Wiggin;413080 wrote:Lol and what does you being next to a veternarian mean exactly? Nothing at all. Well other than idiots flock together I guess. Seriously th Not sure what youre trying to accomplish with that. And its funny you talk about me calling people names yet that was the basis of everyones post here, shall I quote everyone calling him names or telling others to STFU? Ya you did that too, so nice job pot calling the kettle black, you are the real POS here, and a stupid one at that. I think ive discussed while bringing up multiple points, which people wont answer, like SYL and Tiernan, and now you.

  What does that mean? That means that she is a Doctor qualified in deciding what is cruel and what is not, unlike you. All you have done is bring up a terrible straw man and call people names. I don't care what others have done, I am talking about YOU. I told you to STFU if you are not a vegan because not only did you bring a terrible straw man into this conversation, but you are also being a hypocrite if you eat animal products, because by your logic, what is the difference between electrocuting a dog to death and slaughtering a cow? You are arguing like a little child. You can't argue a point so you keep name calling. Pot. kettle. black? Nope, i've brought up points, you have not. you just restated your original comment. Try harder and maybe I will listen to what you have to say.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Yes, HB, but these guys here wont care about that.
  
  Hes on probation, correct, but where does it say he cant throw a birthday part? Is it the smartest thing? Maybe not? But is he completely barred from doing so? LOL NO. Anyone blaming him for something he has no control over is just an idiot. And calm down kiddo. Caps Lock is not cruise control for cool.
  
  Man this site has gone to the dumps.
• ytownfootball

  

  If I'm on probation and I stand to fuck up millions of dollars in the process...I don't make up fucking fliers and sell tickets...I'm smarter than a fifth grader and have tea and fuckin' crumpets at the church community room, not a fuckin' club.
  
  Why is this so hard for you to grasp? I know you're an African American, seriously, is that the only reason? Be honest, at least I can deal with that, blatant ignorance I can't.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Lol LJ, that means nothing, thats just another opinion, by that logic, if Vick killed the dogs, but then stuffed them and put them on the wall, is that ok? Thats what youre saying. Please ask her how one is less cruel, id love to hear that. And you actually have no idea what my profession is, yet ANOTHER stupid thing youve said. I havent brought up any straw men, I alluded to what others were bringing up and expanding on it. But seeing as you have trouble comprehending, you tried to put words in my mouth, typical dummy tactics
  
  And youre the one actiling like a child, ive backed up everything I said with examples, I didnt mindlessly bash someone for something they have no control over? Ive brought up points and now youre saying im not? Hilarious, Try harder. You talk about namecalling yet thats pretty much all that side of the argument is doing, POT.KETTLE.BLACK. DUMBASSES. End of story
  
  Try again please. Youre looking dumber and dumber.
  
  Theyll give any dumbass Moderator? Crazy. Try again LJ, maybe with something that actually makes sense.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Ytown, I feel ya, was it the smartest thing to do? No, but did the judge who is above all of us and released Vick say no parties or anything like that? No he did not. Once again, best judgment? No, illegal? No. His fault for uninvited guests? No. Should people be calling him names and all that for something out of his control? No.
  
  And how do you know im an African American? Just curious because it adds absolutely nothing to this conversation that has nothing to do with race. So why are you even bringing something up that you dont even know the truth about?
• LJ

  

  Ender Wiggin;413105 wrote:Lol LJ, that means nothing, thats just another opinion

  It's an educated opinion. Yours is an emotional opinion

  by that logic, if Vick killed the dogs, but then stuffed them and put them on the wall, is that ok? Thats what youre saying. Please ask her how one is less cruel, id love to hear that.

  To start with the LAW says it is cruel. It's illegal to kill a companion animal in most states. I've already stated that. i don't think she really wants to go into a whole psychological dissertation as well as the different values that have been placed on animals throughout history. The biggest difference though is brain activity and purpose. You never started off by saying hunters who just hunt for a trophy, and i never said THAT type of hunting was OK. I believe hunting and killing an animal because you want to eat it is ok. Killing an animal purely for sport (minus some varmint) is not ok

  And you actually have no idea what my profession is, yet ANOTHER stupid thing youve said.

  I highly doubt you are a Doctor. Usually when people use a vague statement like that they are nothing near what they are arguing against.

  I havent brought up any straw men, I alluded to what others were bringing up and expanding on it. But seeing as you have trouble comprehending, you tried to put words in my mouth, typical dummy tactics

  
  this is what you stated

  Also, how come no one is addressing the issue with Hunters who willingly kill animals on a much larger scale than Vick did, are they as deranged as some of you are trying to make Vick?

  I put no words in your mouth. This whole time I have been responding to this statement. If you have been referring to something else, I apologize for not being clear enough. Next time I will not only quote your own words first, but also bold them.

  And youre the one actiling like a child, ive backed up everything I said with examples,

  No you haven't. You have had an emotional opinionated debate and created ANOTHER straw man after your first. At first you merely stated "hunters" but then changed your position to "trophy hunters

  I didnt mindlessly bash someone for something they have no control over?

  huh?

  Ive brought up points and now youre saying im not? Hilarious, Try harder.

  You haven't, you just keep going in ridiculous circles.

  You talk about namecalling yet thats pretty much all that side of the argument is doing, POT.KETTLE.BLACK. DUMBASSES. End of story
  Try again please. Youre looking dumber and dumber.
  
  Theyll give any dumbass Moderator? Crazy. Try again LJ, maybe with something that actually makes sense.

  I have not name called
  
  
  Now, a few questions that you need to answer.
  1. Are you a vegan or a hypocrite?
  2. Are you more qualified than a veterinarian?
• ytownfootball

  

  Because I have a memory like an elephant ender, and I can at least understand your line of thinking when faced with overwhelming evidence and logic that the guy gets what the fuck he deserves for being on probation and acting a fool. Bottom line. I don't hate the guy, he's just stupid. Got a second chance and fucked it up. Your defending him logically points in one direction, I can at least address that rather than this completely illogical banter...Man on probation throws party that a shooting occurred. It is what it is ender. An ex-con on probation violating parole, if not legally then certainly in the eyes of his employer...the NFL.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Ill address the ignorant sillyness I just read in a few minutes when I get back.
• LJ

  

  Ender Wiggin;413125 wrote:Ill address the ignorant sillyness I just read in a few minutes when I get back.

  
  don't bother.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Once again, ill ask how do you know that I am an African American? Good job, you have a good memory, now lets see why you think im an African American, and thats just because im intrigued, seeing as Race has absolutely NOTHING do with ANYTHING in this topic. The only person to bring up race was.....well if you want to say SYL did with his Al Sharpton comment, which he still hasnt responded to, but thats stretching it.
  
  And im not really defending him, im against you all for say the stupid shit that youre saying. Is he smart to do something like this? No. But hes perfectly able to do that and its not his fault.
  
  If anything is illogical its you all saying he cant do something that not even the judge that released said he cant do and ytown trying to bring in race in something something its not even relevant then trying to say im only doing this because im black, which he still hasnt said how? Thats whats stupid and illogical. And im in shock at the things im reading.
  
  He didnt fuck anything up, he has no control over what others do. Was it smart? maybe not, but lemme know when he gets actioned for any of this then youll have a point.
  
  And ill wait for you to say why yo think im African American.
  
  And LJ, ill get to that trash in a few as well
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Rofl @ you saying an "emotional response" I dont give two shits about this, I find it funny people are blaming him for something he has no control over. Then people saying stupid shit about Al Sharpton and namecalling. None of this is keeping me awake at night lol. Nice try attempting to make something more than it is LJ. Lets try and be a bit more intelligent here.
  
  Sad.
• ytownfootball

  

  He has control over throwing a party while on probation selling tickets to said event....he's a dumbass.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Ok, LJ, for starters, the hunting argument, I didnt bring that up originally, reread please as youre saying I created a strawman argument when I did not, I only expanded on it using the backwards logic people were using to condemn Vick, I expanded more when you brought up using it for food because for everyone of those there are ones that hang them up on the wall, which is why I said what if Vick did that, would that be ok? Not that hard to comprehend. I dont agree with hunting like that or what Vick did, Im not defending his actions at all, what he did makes me sick. I understand what you said, however, think not about yourself but what others have been saying about Vick and put the two instances together, it doesnt add up.
  
  And yes, anything ive said I backed it up with something, not sure what youre trying to pull by saying emotional, but its stupid lol, and you know it. Then you bring in something irrelevant about you sitting next to a veternarian and then try and bring up my occupation, why? It has nothing to do with anything. At all. Makes you look foolish even moreso than youve already done yourself. What do you do for a living?
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Ytown, I agree, not the smartest thing to do, but show me where he was barred from doing so and show me how he had control over what others there did and I will gladly tip over my king. If I ever said he was a smart man then please point that out as well. He just doesnt get some of the flak hes getting here.
  
  Also once again ill ask you why you brought up, why you think im an african american and what it has to do with anything being discussed here. Ill wait, because this is sure to be funny.
• ytownfootball

  

  He's not barred from doing so...so when it all goes to shit you have what we have here.
  
  Check your "notifications" aka pm's
• LJ

  

  Ender Wiggin;413185 wrote: And yes, anything ive said I backed it up with something, not sure what youre trying to pull by saying emotional, but its stupid lol, and you know it.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion

  Then you bring in something irrelevant about you sitting next to a veternarian and then try and bring up my occupation, why? It has nothing to do with anything. At all. Makes you look foolish even moreso than youve already done yourself. What do you do for a living?

  I didn't bring your occupation into it, you did. All I said is that you are NOT as qualified as a veterinarian to determine what is cruel and what is not. Is that not correct?
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Ytown, dont send me a PM like that, if you make a claim like that back it up. If you make mention of race in a topic where its completely irrelevant then state as to why you brought it up and why you think im an African American, as if it even mattered in the first place.
  
  I question someone who brings something up like that when its 100% unneeded and irrelevant.
  
  Im still waiting.
• ytownfootball

  

  Like what? Requesting your honesty? OK Lie to everyone on here I don't give a shit.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  Bullshit ytown. Please point out where I lied, more bullshit from you. I never said I was or was not african american, all I said was back up what you claimed. Kook at you trying to spin things to fit your sad, ignorant, and irrelevant argument.
  
  So once again, ill ask you why you believe im an african american, how it would be relevant to the topic, and why you even brought it up in the first place?
  
  You give enough of a shit to bring up something completely and utterly irrelevant lol, then are man enough to back up your claims as to why you said that dumb shit in the first place.
  
  Still waiting.
• ytownfootball

  

  I'm not the one unable to comprehend logic for dummies Einstein.
• Ender Wiggin

  

  And I see youre still deflecting as opposed to backing up what you say. When you want to act like a big boy and actually answer something thats asked of you about what YOU brought up ill be here.
  
  So once again ill ask, why you think im an african american, and back it up, why if I was an african american would it be relevant to the topic, and why you brought it up?
  
  Thanks princess