Cleveland Cavaliers (current) off-season rumors

• jpake1

  

  The Blazers don't have a problem spending money on the draft. Most picks that are bought are mid to late in the 1st. That's where the big drop off in talent comes every year; hence teams more willing to sell. Everybody usually buys those picks for 3M.. I wonder why? To most FO guys, there isn't a big difference between the last 10 picks of the 1st round and the first 10 pick of the next round. Sure there are a few guys here and there they really like, but for the most part, there isn't a big difference. It's not like the Blazers totally over paid. Early 2nd rounders have been going for about 2M lately. Houston bought 3 of them last year for 6M.
  
  You're killin' me today Dynasty.
• jpake1

  

  Yeah, LA sold the 29th (Douglas) for 3M and a future 2nd to the Knicks. I'm not sure what he's been talking about lately. Has he always just blurted stuff out without thinking or researching?
• hoops23

  

  Yes, he has.
  
  He brings up the same stuff EVERY post it seems. (Jamison was a bad trade, Shaq was a bad trade, Cavs don't have any trade pieces, etc...)
  
  SMH
  
  Oh I forgot though, he obviously knows basketball because according to him, NBA teams "looked" at him while in college.
• thedynasty1998

  

  I know that teams can buy into the first round, I get it. I'm just saying based off of what the Blazers paid, I think they set the asking price a little higher. But then again, maybe they didn't?
  
  Like I said, I hope the Cavs can get into the first round, and if $3 million does it, great. And I don't want to get picky here, but we were talking about the 18th pick earlier (Miami's) and I would think there is plenty of value there.
  
  I also wonder what the Cavs front office's mindset is going into the draft, whether they are focused on rebuilding, or adding pieces that work around Lebron. Just so many questions marks.
• KR1245

  

  Some Blazers writer was just one with Roda. Sounds like the Mo to Blazers thing isnt happening. Blazers would rather go after Devin Harris. Also mentioned that the Blazers made an offer for Paul although I cant remember who they included.
• KR1245

  

  Ok. Just checked over on RCF. Blazers offer for Paul was Bayless, Batum, Pryzbilla and Miller. Mo would be 3rd option if Paul and Harris didnt work out.
• hoops23

  

  New Orleans isn't trading Paul.
  
  The Nets offered them Devin Harris and the #3 pick for CP3 and NO declined.
• KR1245

  

  Nothing new here.....
  
  BW: Cleveland Cavaliers still pondering buying a pick in Thursday's NBA draft
  
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  Cleveland Cavaliers still pondering buying a pick in Thursday's NBA draft
  
  Brian Windhorst
  
  Published: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:10 PM Updated: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:13 PM
  
  CLEVELAND, Ohio -- There's an adage in the NBA that there's only three ways to get players: sign them, trade for them or draft them.
  
  Which is why Thursday's draft is an important day for teams -- whether they own draft picks or not.
  
  The Cavaliers are in the latter position this year, having traded their first-round pick to the Washington Wizards and their second-round choice to the Phoenix Suns. But that doesn't mean they are not involved.
  
  At the end of the season, team owner Dan Gilbert said he hoped to get a draft pick by making a trade or buying a pick. According to league sources, those plans are being followed through. Over the last week the Cavs have amped up talks with other teams to set the stage for getting into the bottom half of the first round or in the second round.
  
  The team is believed to be targeting big men who may be available. This draft doesn't have instant-impact centers or power forwards, but is generally regarded as being deep in big men. That is one of the reasons the Cavs may be interested.
  
  The team's second priority, it is believed, would be a point guard. There's a chance the team will be altering its backcourt before next season.
  
  Historically, most picks are exchanged on draft night, especially if they are sold. Teams can pay up to $3 million for a pick and because of that rule, that is usually what the price for first rounders defaults to. Usually a team will target a player or two and then wait to see if he's available before attempting the trade, which is why these deals often happen at the last minute.
  
  There is expected to be several picks sold this season because some teams are looking to preserve salary cap space they'd have to use on rookies while others are looking to help erase losses.
  
  The Cavs have purchased second-round picks in each of the last two years. Those picks change hands with cash more often than first-round picks but the prices are going up. When they bought the draft rights to Sasha Kaun in 2008, it cost around $300,000. Last season the Cavs were outbid for a second-round pick by the Houston Rockets to the tune of $2.25 million. Already this week, the Portland Trail Blazers reportedly paid $2 million to move up 10 spots in the second round.
  
  Nonetheless, with Gilbert's backing the Cavs will likely be aggressive in attempting to acquire at least one pick. While they are seldom impact players, there are prizes that come from the late first round and early in the second round. Five current Cavs were second-round draft picks and three others were taken with picks in the 20s.
  
  Williams update:On Monday, Yahoo! Sports reported the Trail Blazers were interested in trading for Mo Williams. League sources have indicated the Cavs have tested the market but aren't committed to trading him. Williams' three years and $26 million left on his contract make him challenging to trade, however the Cavs aren't believed to be interested in moving Williams unless they can get comparable talent back in return.
• hoops23

  

  Mo Williams has said he may be traded within the next 36 hours.
• hoops23

  

  lol a tweet from Mo:
  
  "Pls don't trade me, I'm not ready to go. I'm begging. My work ain't done yet. I'm on both knees....pls. I'm serious"
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Hopefully its for something worthwhile off of the Blazers.
• thedynasty1998

  

  KR1245;398121 wrote:Nothing new here.....
  
  BW: Cleveland Cavaliers still pondering buying a pick in Thursday's NBA draft
  
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  Cleveland Cavaliers still pondering buying a pick in Thursday's NBA draft
  
  Brian Windhorst
  
  Published: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:10 PM Updated: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 9:13 PM
  
  CLEVELAND, Ohio -- There's an adage in the NBA that there's only three ways to get players: sign them, trade for them or draft them.
  
  

  
  I know several people on here hold Windhorst in high regards, but is he really this dumb?
• BR1986FB

  hoops23;398712 wrote:lol a tweet from Mo:
  
  "Pls don't trade me, I'm not ready to go. I'm begging. My work ain't done yet. I'm on both knees....pls. I'm serious"

  
  Should have thought about that when you were gagging like Linda Lovelace in the playoffs, Mo.
• hoops23

  

  thedynasty1998;398730 wrote:I know several people on here hold Windhorst in high regards, but is he really this dumb?

  
  What exactly did he say there that was dumb?
• BR1986FB

  thedynasty1998;398730 wrote:I know several people on here hold Windhorst in high regards, but is he really this dumb?

  
  What's dumb...his "only three ways to get players" comment? It was an INTRO to a story. I highly doubt he was trying to educate fans on the way to acquire players.
• -Society-

  

  BR1986FB;398739 wrote:What's dumb...his "only three ways to get players" comment? It was an INTRO to a story. I highly doubt he was trying to educate fans on the way to acquire players.

  
  How the fuck else are you going to get a player? He's trying to be witty with that INRO. A poor one at that.
• hoops23

  

  -Society-;398758 wrote:How the fuck else are you going to get a player? He's trying to be witty with that INRO. A poor one at that.

  
  SMH. He's not trying to be witty, it's an INTRO to his fucking story.
• BR1986FB

  I doubt Windhorst is trying to be witty. Humor isn't one of his strengths. He should leave the jokes to his doppelganger, Andy Milonakis, if he is.
• hoops23

  

  Windy has a dick up his ass recently anyway.
• -Society-

  

  hoops23;398760 wrote:SMH. He's not trying to be witty, it's an INTRO to his fucking story.

  
  SMH. Horrible INTRO.
• hoops23

  

  -Society-;398783 wrote:SMH. Horrible INTRO.

  
  May have been, but he wasn't trying to be "witty" with it.
  
  Like I said, he's had a dick up his ass.. Most likely, it's clouding his writing ability.
• thedynasty1998

  

  I'm didn't take it as him being witty and I understant it was his introduction, but he couldn't come up with something better than that? The dude gets paid to write and that's what he comes up with?
  
  I know it's not important and obviously not the substance of his article, I just thought it was very poorly done.
  
  I mean no shit you get players 1 of 3 ways.
• BR1986FB

  hoops23;398784 wrote:May have been, but he wasn't trying to be "witty" with it.
  
  Like I said, he's had a dick up his ass.. Most likely, it's clouding his writing ability.

  
  He's probably pissed that with LBJ's camp being so tight-lipped that he's always last to the party to get scoops anymore.
• hoops23

  

  I don't know, BW is widely regarded as one of the best beat writers in the business and ESPN has him do a ton of "special contribution" articles/pieces for them.
  
  He's been weird lately though.
• hoops23

  

  BR1986FB;398792 wrote:He's probably pissed that with LBJ's camp being so tight-lipped that he's always last to the party to get scoops anymore.

  
  lol, could be.
  
  I know he's been butt hurt about Mike Brown and Danny Ferry.