Cleveland Cavaliers (current) off-season rumors

• -Society-

  

  ts1227;410737 wrote:You would think if it was a slam dunk toward Cleveland, he would just say it.
  
  By waiting until after this camp, you wonder if he's worried about having to deal with the backlash from the camp participants and anyone else around this week if he would announce he's going elsewhere before the camp ended.

  
  That was my thinking, also.
• KR1245

  

  devil1197;410738 wrote:I'd say the guy has a life and its the holiday weekend. I am sure he would like some time to be with his family since he has been doing business constantly over the past 3-4 days. Even if he is mulling his options, Cleveland will still always win imo.
  
  I wouldn't say he is recruiting guys either, once he re-signs with Cleveland the dominos will fall. Contrary to what people say, I believe personally that the other guys will wait until LeBron makes his decision. We've seen Dirk and JJ sign deals to their current teams, nothing shocking at all.
  
  People will twist it to say he won't make a decision to upset people at the camp, but its just another wild speculation that has plagued the entire process since last year.

  
  
  I agree. The timeline thing doesnt really worry me.
• devil1197

  Honestly, if you guys had 5-6 companies looking at you offering different packages would you be able to make the decision on a holiday weekend only one day after the final presentation? Chicago literally left 24 hours ago, give the guy a break and let him decide on his own timeline.
  
  Let him enjoy the camp and then make a clear decision, which will be Cleveland.
  
  Players will still be there for Cleveland to pick up. The only significant moves have been to guys that have either:
  A) Been overpaid by teams or have went to non contenders (Amir, Darko, Gay, Salmons etc)
  B) Returned to their current teams after receiving good offers (Dirk and JJ)
  C) Players that were given a good contract by a good team (Blake)
• ts1227

  

  At the same time, it's not like the offers took him by complete surprise. Though no one could formally say anything before July 1, he had been thinking about it well before then. It's not like a decision made over the weekend would be some sort of snap judgment.
• Footwedge

  devil1197;410718 wrote:Yes, the Cavs should part ways with JJ/AV if you are getting a 20-10 all star PF in his prime. Consider the Cavs would get him locked into a 6 yr deal. Pairing two guys in their prime for multiple years is a move that needs to be made. I don't want to hope a guy like JJ, who has potential, pans out to be an all star.
  
  AV is the tough one to part with but JJ has potential. I am willing to trade a defensive player and a kid with potential for a proven 20-10 guy. Especially if Cleveland can work around some contracts, if Toronto is willing, to take back Hedo.

  
  I do understand the quallity over quantity argument. But think about it. If the Cavs in essence trade JJ and Andy for Bosh, what exactly is their front line gonna look like?
  
  
  ......they will have no money (cap space) to patch up a front line that would only show one player. If they resign Shaq...good Gawd.
• devil1197

  ts1227;410769 wrote:At the same time, it's not like the offers took him by complete surprise. Though no one could formally say anything before July 1, he had been thinking about it well before then. It's not like a decision made over the weekend would be some sort of snap judgment.

  
  Yes, he had been thinking about it but teams didn't spend thousands on presentations for nothing. There were plenty of new things LeBron has saw over the past couple days that has made him think about his decisions. He is a smart guy and will go over everything in detail. He has been waiting for this moment for years, he won't make a decision instantly.
• Footwedge

  BR1986FB;410714 wrote:I'm not a Hickson fan per se but I still don't get all of the frothing at the mouth over Bosh.

  Oh I think Bosh is the real deal....much, much better than AT Jamison. But the Cavs don't have any depth at all at this position. AV is damn good...and all Hickson needs is work on his 15/18 footer. No way do I pull the switch on this deal.
• gibby08

  

  Even if Lebron resigns...unless they get Bosh or another BIG-time FA,this offseason will be ultimately viewed a failure
• sleeper

  

  gibby08;410790 wrote:Even if Lebron resigns...unless they get Bosh or another BIG-time FA,this offseason will be ultimately viewed a failure

  
  Says the retard LOL
• KR1245

  

  gibby08;410790 wrote:Even if Lebron resigns...unless they get Bosh or another BIG-time FA,this offseason will be ultimately viewed a failure

  
  hahaha
• devil1197

  Footwedge;410777 wrote:Oh I think Bosh is the real deal....much, much better than AT Jamison. But the Cavs don't have any depth at all at this position. AV is damn good...and all Hickson needs is work on his 15/18 footer. No way do I pull the switch on this deal.

  
  Cleveland will have Jamison/Bosh/Powe/Williams at the PF position if Cleveland made the trade. I would hate to see AV go but Bosh is a legit PF.
  
  Cleveland may finally have an opportunity to find LeBron his #2 guy and we are not wanting to throw AV/JJ together to get a 20-10 star in his prime? I'd also like Cleveland try to get Hedo from Toronto if they can make the contracts work.
• gibby08

  

  Explain to me how this off-season can be considered a success if they don't add another big name??
  
  No other players other than Wade or Bosh would make a big enough difference to make them a true championship contender
• devil1197

  Yeah, landing the most coveted FA in the game would be considered a failure?
  
  Getting LeBron will make my summer, end of story. Anything on top of that is just icing on the cake.
• KR1245

  

  gibby08;410794 wrote:Explain to me how this off-season can be considered a success if they don't add another big name??
  
  No other players other than Wade or Bosh would make a big enough difference to make them a true championship contender

  
  If they keep Lebron thats enough. Is this serious?
• gibby08

  

  It is if you go into next season with pretty much the same roster(most likely minus Shaq)
  
  They will not have done enough if they don't get Lebron + Wade/Bosh
• gibby08

  

  KR...I was refering to Lebron + one of those guys
• devil1197

  gibby08;410799 wrote:It is if you go into next season with pretty much the same roster(most likely minus Shaq)
  
  They will not have done enough if they don't get Lebron + Wade/Bosh

  
  So now we are supposed to get Wade along with LeBron lol?
  
  I'd like to see how you would work that one out.
• jordo212000

  

  gibby08;410799 wrote:It is if you go into next season with pretty much the same roster(most likely minus Shaq)

  
  I would hope that Shaq is not coming back
• Footwedge

  gibby08;410794 wrote:Explain to me how this off-season can be considered a success if they don't add another big name??
  
  No other players other than Wade or Bosh would make a big enough difference to make them a true championship contender

  You cannot be serious. You can't be. How was Cleveland not a contender the last 2 years? What an asinine assessment.
  
  I suppose you think Boston wasn't a contender last month either.
  
  If the Cavs went to battle this year....with the exact same team, they would very much be contenders. Period. Sometimes the best team in basketball loses in the playoffs. It happens.
• sleeper

  

  gibby08;410799 wrote:It is if you go into next season with pretty much the same roster(most likely minus Shaq)
  
  They will not have done enough if they don't get Lebron + Wade/Bosh

  Given those parameters, will any team enter the next season as a success?
  
  LOL
  
  Do I have to post your picture? LOL
• gibby08

  

  Footwedge;410802 wrote:You cannot be serious. You can't be. How was Cleveland not a contender the last 2 years? What an asinine assessment.
  
  I suppose you think Boston wasn't a contender last month either.
  
  If the Cavs went to battle this year....with the exact same team, they would very much be contenders. Period. Sometimes the best team in basketbal loses in the playoffs. It happens.

  The best team didn't lose in the playoffs
• KR1245

  

  What do you get out of this? Is your life really this pathetic that you have to come in here and stir the pot?
• gibby08

  

  So I'm stiring the pot by stating fact??
  
  Tell me what makes Cleveland any better if they don't get Bosh??
  
  Without getting another major FA...Cleveland will continue to under-achieve and make early exits from the postseason
• Footwedge

  devil1197;410793 wrote:Cleveland will have Jamison/Bosh/Powe/Williams at the PF position if Cleveland made the trade. I would hate to see AV go but Bosh is a legit PF.
  
  Cleveland may finally have an opportunity to find LeBron his #2 guy and we are not wanting to throw AV/JJ together to get a 20-10 star in his prime? I'd also like Cleveland try to get Hedo from Toronto if they can make the contracts work.

  I would love to have Bosh....but no one on that list is even close to a #5. And my boy Leon has proven to be injury prone. Bosh has stated publicly that he wants to play #4 at both ends of the court. If we're gonna go after a big and part with JJ and AV, I'd rather Amare come here than Bosh.
• jordo212000

  

  Footwedge;410802 wrote: Sometimes the best team in basketball loses in the playoffs. It happens.

  
  I don't agree with gibby at all... but this is a laughable statement. The Lakers were obviously the best team in the NBA this past season.
  
  I don't want to hear about the meaningless regular season and how the Cavs had the best record. The NBA is a very top heavy league. There are a lot of bad teams to beat and the really good teams know that they can save something back and be ready for the playoffs (and they still usually beat the Timberwolves of the world)