Ben Roethlisberger suspended for 4-6 games
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2kool4skool
lol at people defending Roethlisberger. Guy is a joke, and deserves every single game he gets. It's rare that I'd actually be happy if an athlete had a career-ending injury, but he's reached that status for me now. -
Pick6
also on ESPN.. the Steelers HAVE reached out to other teams with top 10 picks. -
killer_ewok
Just saw that......and I'll say it again......I support whatever decision the Rooney's make in regards to Ben's status as a member of the Pittsburgh Steelers.Pick6 wrote: also on ESPN.. the Steelers HAVE reached out to other teams with top 10 picks. -
jpake1
Should be done for a few games and I'd think about trading him. I don't care if he's a franchise QB. He's a QB that's making the franchise look like a joke. Trade him, get some real good chips out of him. Then be on your way. I saw this because I don't see the Steelers winning rings. If they were right there, I might be changing my tune. Still a playoff team, I just don't think they're champions anymore. -
Automatik
As a Steeler fan I'm glad they finally got to it....got sick of waiting around for a ruling. 6 is too many IMO, but fuck it. I think he will get it reduced to 4.
Word on the street is Pitts contacted teams to trade a top 10 pick for him, which is RETARDED. There isn't a top 10 player in this years draft that I would give up for him. Let him take his suspension and give him a chance to redeem himself. If they trade him tomorrow I will be irate!!!! -
Pick6
and i will be lmao..haha,Automatik wrote: As a Steeler fan I'm glad they finally got to it....got sick of waiting around for a ruling. 6 is too many IMO, but fuck it. I think he will get it reduced to 4.
Word on the street is Pitts contacted teams to trade a top 10 pick for him, which is RETARDED. There isn't a top 10 player in this years draft that I would give up for him. Let him take his suspension and give him a chance to redeem himself. If they trade him tomorrow I will be irate!!!!
i think dixon has potential though -
Prescott
None of us know what the laws are in Georgia.exactly..prescott must have never been in a bar before..
The girl admitted said she was drunk. Do you think she was drinking at the bar before Roethlisberger set up shots? If she showed signs of being drunk, wouldn't that be an indication to Roethlisberger that it was legal for her to drink?
Why isn't the bar held responsible for allowing underage drinkning?
I guess I view things differently.The girl is responsible for accepting drinks when she knew she was underage and the bar is responsible for serving drinks to an underage person. Roethlisberger has no responsibility as far as the underage drinking goes. -
Sonofanump
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devil1197
He may get something, but Ben didn't get talks of a big suspension after his first case.Sonofanump wrote: What will the suspension be here?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5122609
It took multiple incidents before he was handed a big suspension. -
Heretic
Interesting take on the whole Roethlisberger dealie in Bill Simmons' mock draft column he did today. Warning: if reading 20 or more words at one time hurts your head, tl;dr it.
His comments about Pittsburgh's first round pick made me chuckle.Quick tangent: I'm fascinated by the Roethlisberger situation. If anyone was ever set up to cut bait with him, it's a family-owned franchise in a blue-collar city that already rode him to two Super Bowl wins. We allegedly have a guy who sought out a drunk girl, had a bodyguard/personal assistant run interference for him, and took the girl alone into a bathroom while her friends tried to, for lack of a better word, save her because they knew she was blitzed. Now Pittsburgh fans are being asked to forgive this person even though (A) they don't know exactly how badly he behaved, and (B) they aren't sure whether this was the first time. Many are having trouble with this request.
Look, nobody wants to win THAT badly … unless you haven't won in a long time, then you can talk yourself into just about anything. Steelers fans don't need him anymore. He's like a prize camel that already walked them across the desert twice. At the same time, Pittsburgh is trying to remain competitive, so it can't trade him without a fair deal -- maybe you don't have to Godfather Offer them like TBS Godfathered Conan O'Brien, but you'd better pony up something -- and the Steelers would never trade him within their division or to another AFC contender.
Here's the question: What cities need a QB, have the assets for a trade and qualify for the aforementioned "nobody wants to win THAT badly … unless you haven't won in a long time, then you can talk yourself into just about anything" statement? According to my calculations, Buffalo, Kansas City, Oakland and San Francisco. That's it. I don't think San Fran and K.C. would gut their teams for him. The Bills don't work because they could never put a good enough team around him, and if he ever slipped up again, they would never recover. That leaves Oakland. We already know Al Davis is starstruck; we know he loves gunslinger QBs; we know he loves to get people talking; we know he doesn't care about the future because he died four years ago; and we know he couldn't care less about someone's background or character. In other words, he's a perfect match.
So what if Al offered Pittsburgh the No. 8 pick and a No. 1 pick in 2012? Wouldn't the Steelers have to do it? If you're Al Davis, and you died four years ago … wouldn't you have to do it? If you're Roethlisberger, wouldn't you want a fresh start somewhere else? Stay tuned. I have no inside info whatsoever, and I made this whole thing up three minutes ago, but stay tuned.
18. Pittsburgh
Maurkice Pouncey, C
The Steelers nail the draft's best center and one of those guys everyone agrees will be really good and yet, by rule, can't be taken in the top 12. Huh? Next year, Pittsburgh can pick his identical twin brother and try to get a Sedin brothers type thing going. By the way, how fun would a Clausen pick be here? That would get a Hall of Fame "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" from the New York crowd, wouldn't it? -
Pick6
dead ondevil1197 wrote:
He may get something, but Ben didn't get talks of a big suspension after his first case.Sonofanump wrote: What will the suspension be here?
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5122609
It took multiple incidents before he was handed a big suspension. -
Prescott
What are these multiple incidents you are referring to/It took multiple incidents before he was handed a big suspension. -
Pick6
2 accusations of rape. motorcycle accident..there is probably more. But that is the exact reason he was suspended. He violated the NFL Player Conduct Policy by putting himself in bad situations multiple times. Anybody would have gotten the same punishment.
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killer_ewok
Maybe Tony Romo will be go down with an injury early in the season and Dallas will offer a trade for Ben during his suspension. Jerry Jones doesn't have any problem taking on players with character/legal issues.....
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Pick6
^^ please dont let big ben go to my cowboys!! Even though I do think Ben and Romo have similar playing styles.
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BR1986FB
Neither do the Jets.killer_ewok wrote: Maybe Tony Romo will be go down with an injury early in the season and Dallas will offer a trade for Ben during his suspension. Jerry Jones doesn't have any problem taking on players with character/legal issues..... -
killer_ewok
How did you feel when they signed Pacman Jones? T.O.? Let's not forget about some of the other "class" guys to play in Big D (Michael Irvin, Nate Newton).Pick6 wrote: ^^ please dont let big ben go to my cowboys!! Even though I do think Ben and Romo have similar playing styles.
Why not Ben? -
LJ
I really dont think that the motorcycle accident had anything to do with it. While he wasn't wearing a helmet, the crash wasn't his fault and he didn't break any laws or contractual agreements.Pick6 wrote: 2 accusations of rape. motorcycle accident..there is probably more. But that is the exact reason he was suspended. He violated the NFL Player Conduct Policy by putting himself in bad situations multiple times. Anybody would have gotten the same punishment. -
BR1986FBYeah, I don't think the motorcycle would count or Winslow would have gotten something for his stupidity.
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Automatik
The reason for the suspension was the details in the DA's statement. I honestly believe the previous accusation had nothing to do with it. Civil case, months after the alleged "incident"....all BS.
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Pick6
Im all for giving guys a second chance.. Pacman, he got into something with the Cowboys and Jones released him. I've always loved T.O., i dont care what people say about him. The media just overblows shit so they have something to talk about. His relationship was pretty good with ROmo & the organization.killer_ewok wrote:
How did you feel when they signed Pacman Jones? T.O.? Let's not forget about some of the other "class" guys to play in Big D (Michael Irvin, Nate Newton).Pick6 wrote: ^^ please dont let big ben go to my cowboys!! Even though I do think Ben and Romo have similar playing styles.
Why not Ben?
I wouldnt want Ben because I like Romo. 2 guys of equal talent, 1 with a shady history and one with a clean history. I'd take the guy with the clean history. -
BR1986FBSteelers sting Big Ben harder than NFL
By Dan Wetzel, Yahoo! Sports 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
NEW YORK – The most damning character assassination of Ben Roethlisberger(notes) in the wake of sexual assault allegations against him, an incident that earned him a four to six game NFL suspension Wednesday, didn’t come in that salacious 527-page Georgia police report.
It’s in word that the Pittsburgh Steelers are shopping their 28-year-old, two-time Super Bowl champion quarterback, seeking a top-10 pick in return.
Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was suspended Wednesday for violating the NFL's personal conduct policy.
If the Steelers believed in Big Ben and his ability to change his personal life, they’d take his penalty and move on. It’d be simple for Roethlisberger to avoid the situation that got him in trouble – stay out of college bar bathrooms with drunken coeds.
On the surface this isn’t a drug or alcohol problem. This isn’t a situation where lousy childhood friends are dragging him down. The straight and narrow doesn’t require a major life change. Just interact with women like a man should. Namely, grow up. It ought to be simple.
The Steelers obviously don’t think it’s such a sure thing. They’re so concerned Roethlisberger isn’t going to suddenly settle down with a nice girl and live a quiet life that they are willing to cut bait with a franchise quarterback – the most prized possession in the NFL.
“It really comes down to how well you know the individual player,” Mark Cuban, owner of the Dallas Mavericks and a Pittsburgh native, told ESPN. “You have to know whether the player is willing to change.
“If he’s not willing to right the ship, you have to get rid of him.”
Cuban went out of his way to say he doesn’t know Roethlisberger or the details of the situation. He does know what it’s like to own a team and discipline players.
If Roethlisberger was essentially a good guy who engaged in some bad behavior one night, then you draw the line in the sand and move on. This is how bosses and parents and school principals discipline every single day. It’s not like Roethlisberger didn’t take precautions against getting into trouble that night in Milledgeville, Ga. He had a designated driver and security team in tow. He got pictures of him drinking erased.
Those are actually mature decisions.
The Steelers don’t appear to think it matters. They aren’t convinced this won’t happen again.
No team would ever trade a talent like Roethlisberger if they thought he could change. Yes, the Rooney family that owns the franchise takes its place in the Pittsburgh culture seriously. And yes, it does operate at a higher morality level than some other teams. Still, this is a QB.
They didn’t dump Roethlisberger when he was dumb enough to ride, and wreck, his motorcycle without a helmet. They didn’t dump him when a woman in Reno, Nev., alleged a sexual assault case of her own. They didn’t dump wide receiver Santonio Holmes(notes) – who caught Ben’s final-second touchdown pass in the Super Bowl two seasons ago – the first time he had an off-field incident (they have since). The Steelers aren’t rigid iron-fisted disciplinarians.
Rumor has it that Pittsburgh is interested in trading Roethlisberger for a top-10 pick.
The Steelers are out of patience with Roethlisberger, convinced that another bit of trouble is inevitable.
Even if they could get Sam Bradford, the top quarterback in the draft who may go to St. Louis with the No. 1 pick, (and I doubt they can) this would be a lopsided trade. Bradford may be great. May. He’s also an unproven rookie who missed most of his junior season at Oklahoma with a shoulder injury. He isn’t signed and, due to the peculiar ways of NFL contracts, will be the highest-paid player on his team wherever he goes.
Roethlisberger is a proven commodity, tough, smart (on the field) and a proven winner in clutch moments. He’s one of the five best quarterbacks in the league. By the time he’s done, he might win four Super Bowls. He’s locked up to a long-term deal, a huge thing for NFL front offices.
The Steelers are apparently willing to deal Roethlisberger anyway.
“[It’s important] that Ben Roethlisberger understands his responsibility to the league, the game, to his teammates to conduct himself in a positive way,” NFL commissioner Roger Goodell said Wednesday at a league youth function at Central Park. “But forget about him as an NFL player; this is about an individual and someone who has to lead a productive life. He has to change the way he’s doing things.”
Can he?
“We’ll find out,” Goodell said. “I think we have a pretty good track record making sure people understand what is required of them … But I’ve always said actions speak louder than words. It’s about actions now, it’s not about words.”
That’s true of the Steelers too. And their actions are saying they have doubts this is the last we hear of Ben Roethlisberger getting in trouble, that this is a bad dude, not a good guy, who got jammed up one night in Georgia.
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killer_ewok
Pacman was past a second chance at that point. LOLPick6 wrote:
Im all for giving guys a second chance.. Pacman, he got into something with the Cowboys and Jones released him. I've always loved T.O., i dont care what people say about him. The media just overblows shit so they have something to talk about. His relationship was pretty good with ROmo & the organization.killer_ewok wrote:
How did you feel when they signed Pacman Jones? T.O.? Let's not forget about some of the other "class" guys to play in Big D (Michael Irvin, Nate Newton).Pick6 wrote: ^^ please dont let big ben go to my cowboys!! Even though I do think Ben and Romo have similar playing styles.
Why not Ben?
I wouldnt want Ben because I like Romo. 2 guys of equal talent, 1 with a shady history and one with a clean history. I'd take the guy with the clean history. -
LJ
I personally don't care about the douchebag shit he has done, I think the Steelers should just let him serve his suspension then move on WITH HIM. How many years did it take to find a franchise QB after Bradshaw retired?(21 years and 10 players) And you want to dump one because he is a perv who hasn't been charged with a crime? Seriously, fuck the "image".
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derek bomar
yea I gotta agree here...as much as I don't like rapelisberger, if I was a stillers fan I wouldn't want to get rid of him unless you could straight up swap him for a proven starter and picks...LJ wrote: I personally don't care about the douchebag shit he has done, I think the Steelers should just let him serve his suspension then move on WITH HIM. How many years did it take to find a franchise QB after Bradshaw retired?(21 years and 10 players) And you want to dump one because he is a perv who hasn't been charged with a crime? Seriously, fuck the "image".