ISIS attacks in Paris

• Uz2Bon36

  

  majorspark;1763942 wrote:I bet ISIS is shitting their pants.

  Do they wear pants?
• majorspark

  

  Al Bundy;1763726 wrote:The Russians can have all of Syria if they are willing to maintain control.

  We need the other half to block a Russian pipeline.
  

  Al Bundy;1763726 wrote:The Russian leaders won't handcuff the Red Army the way our leaders handcuff our armed services.

  Truth.
• majorspark

  

  Uz2Bon36;1763944 wrote:Do they wear pants?

  Not all of them.
  
  
• Tiernan

  Anonymous is a bunch of mask wearing pussies...similar to a certain pro football fan base.
• O-Trap

  

  Midstate01;1763933 wrote:I had to get up at dinner and go somewhere else. My dad takes everything they say on there like it's true. Like it's the only possible thing.
  
  Then my mom says I wish someone in our military would just take him (obama) out. I was like, are you serious? That's real Christian like....

  What would Jesus do?
  
  Jesus would apparently grab an AR-15, bust down the doors of the White House, shoot the president's guards, beat Obama over the head with a big ol' King James Bible, resurrect Ronald Reagan, and make him president for life.
  

  majorspark;1763942 wrote:I bet ISIS is shitting their pants.

  I mean, Anonymous doesn't commit physical violence, but they've made life rather difficult for celebrities and institutions alike. I'd probably be more scared of them than any of the people I see on the web saying they would make irrational decisions based in emotion.
  

  Tiernan;1763954 wrote:Anonymous is a bunch of mask wearing pussies...similar to a certain pro football fan base.

  They certainly seem to be able to get access to things. They use the mask as a representation of what they stand for, but they mostly function like you and I: behind a computer.
• majorspark

  

  O-Trap;1763978 wrote:I mean, Anonymous doesn't commit physical violence, but they've made life rather difficult for celebrities and institutions alike. I'd probably be more scared of them than any of the people I see on the web saying they would make irrational decisions based in emotion.

  I am pretty sure the ISIS leaders are far more in fear of those that can "evaporate" them as soon as their ass hits the seat of an automobile while they go about their daily business than someone that can disrupt their internetz.
• SportsAndLady

  

  majorspark;1763984 wrote:I am pretty sure the ISIS leaders are far more in fear of those that can "evaporate" them as soon as their ass hits the seat of an automobile while they go about their daily business than someone that can disrupt their internetz.

  Both can be dangerous. If you can't see how Anonymous can be dangerous, I don't know what to tell you.
• Bio-Hazzzzard

  

  It's very difficult to determine who is who in the Muslim world. Unfortunately for the good people of the Muslim faith the bad have contaminated their religions identity of who's good or evil. Deport them all.
• Sage

  

  anonymous solved the isis problem, thankfully.
• majorspark

  

  SportsAndLady;1763987 wrote:Both can be dangerous. If you can't see how Anonymous can be dangerous, I don't know what to tell you.

  Thats not what I am saying. I am talking about who they fear more. You and I would fear a power that can end our lives invisibly and instantly from the sky as soon as we sit down in the seat of a car. Trust me ISIS is not shitting their pants over Anonymous as they have far worse to fear. I am guessing soon they will have the French army to fear as well.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Bio-Hazzzzard;1763990 wrote:It's very difficult to determine who is who in the Muslim world. Unfortunately for the good people of the Muslim faith the bad have contaminated their religions identity of who's good or evil. Deport them all.

  So...you folks are ok with deporting all muslims because a few "bad apples" or "criminals". But aren't ok with gun control because it's only a few bad apples, or criminals?
  
  Not wanting to turn this in to a giant debate on gun control, as I'm pretty neutral to that idea, just want to understand your (any many others like you) line of thinking.
• O-Trap

  

  majorspark;1763984 wrote:I am pretty sure the ISIS leaders are far more in fear of those that can "evaporate" them as soon as their ass hits the seat of an automobile while they go about their daily business than someone that can disrupt their internetz.

  Consider, however, what they want. They don't seem to have a problem with dying for their cause. Seems they'd rather die than fail.
  
  So what about a group who has the ability to manipulate them and then getting their funds either frozen or finding a way to mess with them. Seems like a threat to their plan would be a bigger problem than a threat to their lives ... at least in their view.
  
  Now, I obviously wouldn't say this is something Anonymous could or will do, but why not let an organization bound primarily by ideals and not geography fight an organization bound primarily by ideals and not geography?
  
  But what I was actually referencing, anyway, was a comparison between Anonymous and the average ITG who has been spouting the stereotypical nonsense.
  

  majorspark;1763993 wrote:Thats not what I am saying. I am talking about who they fear more. You and I would fear a power that can end our lives invisibly and instantly from the sky as soon as we sit down in the seat of a car. Trust me ISIS is not shitting their pants over Anonymous as they have far worse to fear. I am guessing soon they will have the French army to fear as well.

  You're not wrong when you state what you and I would fear, but you and I don't have the same motives and priorities as these guys, demonstrated by the operations they carry out having an often low survival rate.
• Bio-Hazzzzard

  

  HighRoller74;1763994 wrote:So...you folks are ok with deporting all muslims because a few "bad apples" or "criminals". But aren't ok with gun control because it's only a few bad apples, or criminals?
  Not wanting to turn this in to a giant debate on gun control, as I'm pretty neutral to that idea, just want to understand your (any many others like you) line of thinking.

  I am for gun control. The laws should be stiffer of who can own a gun regarding to past criminal records and/or citizenship. Anyone who is not a US citizen should not be capable of purchasing a gun, the second amendment is there for law abiding legal citizens. With that said I can trust a guns presence 100% when placed into the hands of the responsible. Guns are guns and people are humans that control them enough said on guns. The bottom line is which Muslim/Middle Easterner can you trust?
• SportsAndLady

  

  majorspark;1763993 wrote:Thats not what I am saying. I am talking about who they fear more. You and I would fear a power that can end our lives invisibly and instantly from the sky as soon as we sit down in the seat of a car. Trust me ISIS is not shitting their pants over Anonymous as they have far worse to fear. I am guessing soon they will have the French army to fear as well.

  They fucking blow themselves up. They don't "fear" anyone or anything.
• superman

  HighRoller74;1763105 wrote:Lets keep the politard shit out of this thread. Feel free to start a thread in that Forum if you can't control your need to some how blame Obama for this. Or if you must tell us that guns are the root of all evil.

  Someone needs to take their own advice.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  superman;1764011 wrote:Someone needs to take their own advice.

  Please show me where I did either of those things?
  
  Asking a question, trying to understand a point of view, is different than blaming Obama, or making a point about guns, or gun control, turning this thread in to a Politard dumpster fire.
• majorspark

  

  O-Trap;1764003 wrote:Now, I obviously wouldn't say this is something Anonymous could or will do, but why not let an organization bound primarily by ideals and not geography fight an organization bound primarily by ideals and not geography?

  Hats off to Anonymous for fighting for ideals. Its all well and good. No one is saying stop them. Go for it. I hope they harm them in the worst way they can. I make the statement that ISIS is not shitting their pants over them and I am taken to task?
  
  The fact is ISIS is seizing geography and governing from it and now sending operatives and ordering them to mow down civilians enjoying life in foreign nations. Their ideals require them to seize geography to set up a caliphate in order to set up a system of government to force and propagate their ideology. The sooner the nations of the world realize this geography must be wrested from their control the worse it will get.
  

  O-Trap;1764003 wrote:You're not wrong when you state what you and I would fear, but you and I don't have the same motives and priorities as these guys, demonstrated by the operations they carry out having an often low survival rate.

  In post 105 above I specifically mention the ISIS leaders. I do not believe they have the same interest in martyrdom than their underlings they have manipulated.
• Al Bundy

  majorspark;1763993 wrote: I am guessing soon they will have the French army to fear as well.

  Fear the French Army? That would be like someone fearing losing a math contest to Footwedge.
• majorspark

  

  SportsAndLady;1764007 wrote:They fucking blow themselves up. They don't "fear" anyone or anything.

  Their leaders are not blowing themselves up they are too busy raping women. That is where the fear needs to be placed. Why is this so hard to understand?
• majorspark

  

  Al Bundy;1764046 wrote:Fear the French Army? That would be like someone fearing losing a math contest to Footwedge.

  We all love to jest about the French. They have ruled Syria before they can do it again.
• Tiernan

  Actually the French Brigade de Terre special forces are a bad ass bunch of mofos that SEALs & British SAS have a lot of respect for. They are especially known for their capture & interrogation (re: torture) skills. And some of that shit would go a long way towards intimidating ISIS.
• Belly35

  

  We as American at this point in our history need to rethink about the issue of immigration. We can no long just permit people from other countries to enter America without a ridge background check and security clearance. Those that do illegally should be deported ASAP and implant tracking chips. ( ok a little crazy).
  This includes students and business/corporation visa that have expired. Presently our government can’t control many individual who have enter our country as student and sub contractors work permit visa those visa have run out and many are now living here in America with expired visa. With the issue of illegal immigrates crossing our boarders daily, years of student and work visa expiration we need to get back to basics and clean up what mess our federal government has created. Presently there is no plan nor is there an agreement of what to do… so nothing is done and the problem continues.
  To trust our government to screen hundred and thousand of Syrians with a few weeks or even months is impossible. I agree that we should let some of the Syrians into our country. Where is this federal government plan of action to do this, where are the personal required to do this, when will this be done? There is no plan is the simples answer. The present operational screen process is flawed, incapable and inconsistent so to try to sell the American public that this new revised process will work is a joke. It has been a failure for years.
  
  Belly rule: You can fix what not cleaned up….
• O-Trap

  

  majorspark;1764044 wrote:Hats off to Anonymous for fighting for ideals. Its all well and good. No one is saying stop them. Go for it. I hope they harm them in the worst way they can. I make the statement that ISIS is not shitting their pants over them and I am taken to task?
  
  The fact is ISIS is seizing geography and governing from it and now sending operatives and ordering them to mow down civilians enjoying life in foreign nations. Their ideals require them to seize geography to set up a caliphate in order to set up a system of government to force and propagate their ideology. The sooner the nations of the world realize this geography must be wrested from their control the worse it will get.
  
  In post 105 above I specifically mention the ISIS leaders. I do not believe they have the same interest in martyrdom than their underlings they have manipulated.

  My apologies if it sounded as though I was trying to take you to task. I assure you that I wasn't. As for Anonymous, I made a comparison, because I'm not actually sure they're shaking in their boots about anything whatsoever. My statement was to imply that Anonymous is a greater threat to their infrastructure as opposed to their lives, and while taking their lives would hurt, they seem to be willing to give their lives up for their cause, from which we can infer that they regard the cause a higher priority than their individual lives. That's all I meant to say by that. Anonymous is a bigger threat to the "bones" of their organization.
  
  As for whether or not the leaders believe in their own cause, that's up for speculation, I suppose. I've not seen anything to suggest that the highest authorities either do or don't.
  
  They are governing from a geographic location, sure. In theory, everyone has to be somewhere. However, even if they choose a locale, they aren't tied to it like someone who is drawing their identity from that location (a national, ie someone who regards themselves as an "American" or "Syrian" first). If push comes to shove, they can still get up and leave the land to whatever fate comes to it without any loss of identity, at least in comparison to where they already are. Unless they're identifying as nationals before they are identifying around an ideal, the land will always take a back seat, it would seem.
• QuakerOats

  <tt>Syrian 'Refugee' Already MISSING IN LOUISIANA...
  Resettlement group admits: We don't track them...
  
  
  
  
  And some people wonder why Donald Trump is doing so well .........</tt>
  
  
• SportsAndLady

  

  QuakerOats;1764096 wrote:<tt>Syrian 'Refugee' Already MISSING IN LOUISIANA...
  Resettlement group admits: We don't track them...
  
  
  
  
  And some people wonder why Donald Trump is doing so well .........</tt>
  
  

  They've already found the missing refugee.