ISIS attacks in Paris

• Mulva

  

  gut;1763080 wrote:France President promising "to lead a war, it will be pitiless"...so looks like we will be putting real boots, in meaningful numbers, back on the ground soon.

  Good. That should stop all of the ill will. We'll have peace soon!
• Spock

  

  we need to close our borders now
• ts1227

  

  Tiernan;1763075 wrote:Been dealing with this all night...my second wife and middle daughter are in Paris tonight. They are OK - about 30 blocks from the stadium blast. They were scheduled to come home tomorrow but I doubt flights will be leaving anytime soon. Embassy is asking all Americans to check in with them and let them know where they are.

  Oddly enough the airport is still operating. The issue will be getting there, though.
• iclfan2

  

  gut;1763080 wrote:France President promising "to lead a war, it will be pitiless"...so looks like we will be putting real boots, in meaningful numbers, back on the ground soon.

  Ironic, since their open mass immigration policies certainly doesn't make it very hard for any terrorists to enter his country.
  
  That said, my heart goes out to the 150+ murdered, as well as the police killed trying to save the hostages at the concert hall.
• HitsRus

  

  Not the time to let our petty political differences distract us from the terrible, tragic events tonite. We will do what we have to do to stop this menace.
• O-Trap

  

  Holy fuck. I knew this thread was going to bring out the Politishits, but that was earlier than I anticipated.
  
  Guys, could you please ... just this once ... maybe not turn a thread involving current events into a political shit fit? Just this one time. Please. I swear, I won't ask again.
  
  I have a friend in Paris, and I can't find any mutual acquaintances who have spoken to him. We're not super close or anything, but it's still troubling that nobody can get a hold of him.
• sherm03

  

  Tiernan;1763075 wrote:Been dealing with this all night...my second wife and middle daughter are in Paris tonight. They are OK - about 30 blocks from the stadium blast. They were scheduled to come home tomorrow but I doubt flights will be leaving anytime soon. Embassy is asking all Americans to check in with them and let them know where they are.

  Glad they are OK. And hope they get back home soon.
  

  O-Trap;1763103 wrote: I have a friend in Paris, and I can't find any mutual acquaintances who have spoken to him. We're not super close or anything, but it's still troubling that nobody can get a hold of him.

  Hoping for good news for you. Fucking terrible that shit like this happens. Just makes me sick to my stomach.
• Lovejoy1984

  

  Lets keep the politard shit out of this thread. Feel free to start a thread in that Forum if you can't control your need to some how blame Obama for this. Or if you must tell us that guns are the root of all evil.
• O-Trap

  

  sherm03;1763104 wrote:Hoping for good news for you. Fucking terrible that shit like this happens. Just makes me sick to my stomach.

  He just checked in. He, his wife, and his family are all safe.
• HitsRus

  

  I'm glad to hear that loved ones are safe....I cannot imagine the anxiety.
• O-Trap

  

  Thanks. Yeah, I'm glad he's safe. I'm hoping he gets outta Dodge until things cool down.
• SportsAndLady

  

  You're a piece of shit if your immediate thought on this is politics.
• Tiernan

  My daughter and Ex have left downtown Paris and are on their way via cab to DeGaulle Airport. American says flights are "delayed but operating". Those two have been thru a night of Hell - anxiety wise - and are wrung out. Using the "What's App" communication tool but it's really not great w/o strong wifi connection and it seems either towers are overloaded or damaged because we've had great comm up until last night. Now it's pretty much text with no voice calls. But they are OK and thats all that matters and should hopefully be in NYC by 4:00 today. Fingers crossed.
• gut

  SportsAndLady;1763119 wrote:You're a piece of shit if your immediate thought on this is politics.

  Well, this is political but non-partisan....how in hell did BOTH French and American intelligence services miss this?
• superman

  Tiernan;1763121 wrote:My daughter and Ex have left downtown Paris and are on their way via cab to DeGaulle Airport. American says flights are "delayed but operating". Those two have been thru a night of Hell - anxiety wise - and are wrung out. Using the "What's App" communication tool but it's really not great w/o strong wifi connection and it seems either towers are overloaded or damaged because we've had great comm up until last night. Now it's pretty much text with no voice calls. But they are OK and thats all that matters and should hopefully be in NYC by 4:00 today. Fingers crossed.

  That's great to hear.
• queencitybuckeye

  Commander of Awesome;1763067 wrote:You turned into a guns rights debate, not a political what to do about terrorist debate. Nice spin fail though.
  
  

  Isn't one a critical subset of the other?
• Tiernan

  Delayed way beyond any chance to catch scheduled connect back to Cbus but they are on their way to Philly now not NYC.
  Daughter is thankful for the cab driver that showed up at the hotel at the designated time even though Parisians were told to stay home unless they are "essential public workers". Here's the twist...cabbie was Muslim and apologized for those that did this. Crazy fkg world we are living in today people...you think you know the enemy and then something totally surprises you.
• Belly35

  

  I have friends in Paris, Germany and UK, we skype early this morning. They are very concerned that more of the same will be an taking place in other Europian capitials and events.
  My friend in the UK said that this is the blueprint of things to come.
  
  When only the bad guys have guns every event, gathering and public access is a soft target for crazy and terroist. If just one armed citizen returned fire how many lives would have been saved in that music hall .... 15 minutes before the first armed swat police entered the music hall building. 15 minutes
  note: that was the comment of my friend in the UK
  
  i think many citizens in gun free countries are rethinking
• Tiernan

  The band playing at the club was an American Metal band - the gunmen went there specifically thinking Americans would be in attendance.
• like_that

  

  Well Tiernan, I give you a lot of shit, but I am glad to see your family is safe. I am sorry they had to go through that, just fucking horrible.
• HitsRus

  

  gut;1763125 wrote:Well, this is political but non-partisan....how in hell did BOTH French and American intelligence services miss this?

  My understanding is that France was under the highest level of alert.
• majorspark

  

  gut;1763080 wrote:France President promising "to lead a war, it will be pitiless"...so looks like we will be putting real boots, in meaningful numbers, back on the ground soon.

  Lets hope so. It was a huge mistake to let abject evil carve out a piece of geography and set up a government.
  
  I was looking at a satellite image of Raqqa, Syria in a news story about where Jihadi John was killed in a drone strike. I had to ask myself why has this place (capital of the Islamic state) not been reduced to complete rubble.
• lhslep134

  

  HighRoller74;1763105 wrote:Lets keep the politard shit out of this thread. Feel free to start a thread in that Forum if you can't control your need to some how blame Obama for this. Or if you must tell us that guns are the root of all evil.

  Belly35;1763131 wrote:If just one armed citizen returned fire how many lives would have been saved in that music hall .... 15 minutes before the first armed swat police entered the music hall building. 15 minutes
  note: that was the comment of my friend in the UK
  
  i think many citizens in gun free countries are rethinking

  
  Please learn how to read Belly. I don't know if you can't, or won't.
• majorspark

  

  Commander of Awesome;1763067 wrote:I would also think that this is gonna have a huge impact on the migrant crisis i think.

  You are going to see a swing to the political "right". I have read reports (not confirmed) that these killers were speaking fluent French. If that is the case even more so as it will be apparent that these migrants are radicalizing their children right under the noses of European governments.
• lhslep134

  

  majorspark;1763137 wrote: I have read reports (not confirmed) that these killers were speaking fluent French.

  No shit. What sort of operations commander would design a foreign attack and not use terrorists who speak the native language?? those terrorists were likely in country for a while. ISIS isn't fucking around.