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  • gut
    LOL.....70 hours of testimony from 60 witnesses and the prosecutor didn't do his job?!? I know it's really hard to grasp sometimes, but it's not the job of the DA to seek an unjust conviction. They're pissed the prosecutor didn't withhold evidence and testimony - which obviously comes out in a trial - to get an indictment to proceed to a trial he would lose.

    A grand jury gets to ask questions and request witnesses and evidence. This is about as unbiased a review and fact finding as you can get. 12 people got to look at everything and anything they wanted for this case, and 9 of them said there wasn't enough to go to trial with.
  • Glory Days
    gut;1678680 wrote:LOL.....70 hours of testimony from 60 witnesses and the prosecutor didn't do his job?!? I know it's really hard to grasp sometimes, but it's not the job of the DA to seek an unjust conviction. They're pissed the prosecutor didn't withhold evidence and testimony - which obviously comes out in a trial - to get an indictment to proceed to a trial he would lose.

    A grand jury gets to ask questions and request witnesses and evidence. This is about as unbiased a review and fact finding as you can get. 12 people got to look at everything and anything they wanted for this case, and 9 of them said there wasn't enough to go to trial with.
    100% agree. however it doesn't really matter. if they withheld evidence to get an indictment, they would have complained evidence was withheld. its lose lose when you have trash like Sharpton, Crump etc leading the charge.

    I almost wish Officer Wilson would have answered the question about if he would have done anything different by saying "That's really a question for Michael Brown and if he thinks he should have obeyed my commands and not attacked me".....
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    Wildcat24;1678607 wrote:http://m.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/283891941.html Did someone mention protesters getting plowed over?

    lol white people. Seriously, most of the protesters they showed in NYC were white hipsters in SoHo. GTFO.
  • BR1986FB
    I'm still waiting for the protests over the white Akron cop who got shot recently by a black guy over a gun struggle and the Cleveland shop owner who hired the troubled black youth to "give him a chance".....that youth, in turn, brought his three thug friends into the shop to kill the store owner, I guess to show him "thanks." Wonder why no outrage or protests? Where's Jesse? Al, are you there?
  • rrfan
    BR1986FB;1678691 wrote:I'm still waiting for the protests over the white Akron cop who got shot recently by a black guy over a gun struggle and the Cleveland shop owner who hired the troubled black youth to "give him a chance".....that youth, in turn, brought his three thug friends into the shop to kill the store owner, I guess to show him "thanks." Wonder why no outrage or protests? Where's Jesse? Al, are you there?
    You will be waiting a long time!
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/uh-oh-black-police-officer-shoots-unarmed-white-man-wheres-riot/

    Where are the white people burning down Utah? Where are all the white people looting and destroying the community?
  • sleeper
    Glory Days;1678675 wrote:I just made the mistake of turning on MSNBC just to get a feel for what they are talking about....that channel needs to burn like Ferguson. Its absolutely disgusting.
    It's worse than Fox News in my opinion and I hate Fox News.
  • like_that
    I hope Darren Wilson plans to sue the NYT for publishing his address.
  • QuakerOats
    I just heard an MSNBC commentator say the following:


    "Had he, Michael Brown, not committed multiple criminal offenses that day (drug abuse, robbery, intimidation, assault, theft, disobeying civil authority, assault of a police officer, attempted murder) he would still be alive today. This entire charade is solely the fault of the deceased."



    Obviously I am just kidding, no one from that Marxist network would ever speak such a truth.
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him. This story is not ringing true and the grand jury process doesn't give it much credibility.
  • gut
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1678732 wrote:I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him.
    So the swollen right cheek and abrasion on the back of his neck were photoshopped?
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1678732 wrote:I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him. This story is not ringing true and the grand jury process doesn't give it much credibility.
    So because he doesn't have a face that looks like it was beaten with a pipe, he loses all credibility? All the evidence supports his story.
  • QuakerOats
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1678732 wrote:I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him. This story is not ringing true and the grand jury process doesn't give it much credibility.


    Multiple witnesses, including 3 blacks, said Brown was charging Wilson; that should be about all you need to know.
  • SportsAndLady
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1678732 wrote:I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him. This story is not ringing true and the grand jury process doesn't give it much credibility.
    Oh god this looks like my Facebook

    I came on here to avoid shit like that, and here we are...
  • like_that
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1678732 wrote:I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him. This story is not ringing true and the grand jury process doesn't give it much credibility.
    LOL, keep being delusional.

    It's ok to admit you are wrong.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1678732 wrote:I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him. This story is not ringing true and the grand jury process doesn't give it much credibility.
    I think he also shot him execution style while Brown begged for his life.
  • QuakerOats
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1678732 wrote:I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him. This story is not ringing true and the grand jury process doesn't give it much credibility.

    I kindly refer you to this: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/nov/25/legal-scholars-praise-ferguson-grand-jury-fairness/


    Legal scholars praise grand jury fairness.
  • sherm03
    "The other thing that doesn't make sense is the lack of transparency. When you know you only need 9 of 12 votes to have a no indictment done, and 9 of those people are white and 3 of those people are black, and then we don't know how the vote went down...and you're telling me with the lack of transparency that the people in Ferguson are just supposed to buy that all the forensic evidence that the Darren Wilson had 6 weeks to analyze himself to make sure his story was correct before he got in front of the grand jury...you expect these people to just go along to get along. That's why they are angry. So much of this story doesn't make sense to the black people of this community."

    Some "analyst" on CNN just said that when they brought him on and a law enforcement expert to discuss Darren Wilson's account of what happened.

    That's just fucking awful. This dude literally just implied that Darren Wilson examined forensic evidence for 6 weeks and then crafted a story based on that. But what nobody called him out on...was that he's implying that Darren Wilson's account IS BASED ON FUCKING FORENSIC EVIDENCE! So yes, I do expect people to buy it.

    Did he probably over-inflate some things? Ya. I'm sure it didn't really feel like a 5 year old holding on to Hulk Hogan. But I'm inclined to believe a majority of the story because the other accounts make no sense when you think about law enforcement training. Why would he pull the suspect in through the front window of his car?

    The only legit complaint I can see is that once Brown started running away, and Wilson was chasing, why keep firing? Why not go to the taser at that point? The immediate threat of him hitting you is gone. So I would think that you could then resort to non-lethal force to subdue the suspect.

    But then again, I've never been through law enforcement training. So I don't know the protocol. Which is why I'm not flipping my shit about this whole thing.
  • sleeper
    Dr Winston O'Boogie;1678732 wrote:I saw the pictures of the officer, who was supposed to have been beaten badly in the scuffle. Not a mark on him. This story is not ringing true and the grand jury process doesn't give it much credibility.
    lol?
  • sleeper
    Beaten badly? Apparently the officer must now be beaten bad enough before he can use his weapon. The logic is strong.
  • mucalum49
    sleeper;1678751 wrote:Beaten badly? Apparently the officer must now be beaten bad enough before he can use his weapon. The logic is strong.
    That was the Brown family's lawyer defense regarding the robbery crime MB committed right before this incident. He didn't lay a whooping on the store owner, only shoved him down so that makes his robbery less off than it is made out to be. Oh okay... :huh:

    And sherm from a few posts up. Wilson said he did not have a taser on him at that time.
  • gut
    sherm03;1678747 wrote:...are just supposed to buy that all the forensic evidence that the Darren Wilson had 6 weeks to analyze himself to make sure his story was correct
    Liberals mad that Darren Wilson did what EVERY defendant does. They act like Wilson can be compelled to testify whenever the DA chooses, while at the same time acting like he didn't have the right to testify at grand jury and the DA threw the indictment by allowing it.

    The great failing of the internet is it allows stupid people to congregate with like minded idiots for the purpose of confirming their delusions.
  • sherm03
    mucalum49;1678754 wrote: And sherm from a few posts up. Wilson said he did not have a taser on him at that time.
    Ahh...that makes sense then. See...I do not have all of the facts, which I'm sure is the same as 99% of the people protesting/rioting/looting. And it's mind boggling to me that people will go to the lengths that they are going to without having all of the facts.