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Phillip Seymour Hoffman found dead

  • Tiernan
    Doubt it even if I knew an alcoholic.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Glory Days;1576072 wrote:he is an adult. he knows what drugs can do to him and his family. hell, why else would he have gotten sober if he knew drugs weren't bad for him?
    No shit he knows. But when you have a sickness that's grabbing a hold of you its hard to say he shouldve known it's bad. You are being a bit of a child in this argument
  • DeyDurkie5
    Tiernan;1576732 wrote:HTF do you correlate having a beer and cig with shooting heroin!? First of all this wanna be screen star always seemed to relish his "troubled" image and I'm sure when he started doing it thought he was some kind of cool detached Robert Downey type character. Well guess what chubby white dude...youre fkn dead.
    This is just retarded but considering that you said it it's not surprising. Did you ever hear about PSH and his drug addiction leading up to this? No you didn't. He was clearly mentally sick and had no control. To say he did it for attention is borderline insane. You sir are a joke.
  • Tiernan
    DGAF...another dead junkie...no loss.
  • queencitybuckeye
    With any luck, the next dead alcoholic will be you. No loss.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Tiernan;1576785 wrote:DGAF...another dead junkie...no loss.
    Ahhh so translation "you won this argument Durkie I'll concede" got it old man
  • Dr Winston O'Boogie
    It is a loss. It's a lost father first and foremost. And it's a high profile case that serves as a reminder of how many other anonymous people are dealing with addiction. Human beings make mistakes - especially young ones. And if your brain is wired for it, that young, stupid decision can affect you all of your life. I have yet to meet someone that didn't do something ridiculously stupid when they were younger. The good thing for most of us is that we don't have to deal with the direct consequences of those decisions for the rest of our lives. The point was made earlier on this thread - heroin can be a killer and so can alcohol (as an example). If your of a certain type of physiological and physical makeup and you drink alcohol, you're no different than a heroin addict in that you'll likely kill yourself sooner or later. An alcoholic may loath the day he took his first drink and put that monkey on his back just the same way the Hoffman may have felt about the time he first tried heroin. Hoffman stayed clean for 20 some years which tells me that he understood the seriousness of his condition and was willing to do the hard work But like all of us, he had an episode of weakness and being an addict, it cost him dearly.

    He's dead and his kids are fatherless. That is a tragedy.
  • Tiernan
    Ha you think you "won" because I'm bored with you and your junkie movie hero? Laughable.
  • Tiernan
    I'm much more concerned about the fatherless children from our dumbass involvements in Afghanistan and Iraq Boogie. Hoffman's kids will be fine and never want for anything.
  • Laley23
    Tiernan;1576805 wrote:I'm much more concerned about the fatherless children from our dumbass involvements in Afghanistan and Iraq Boogie. Hoffman's kids will be fine and never want for anything.
    Why? Why should we give a fuck about them? They new the risks when they signed up. Another dead military man...who gives a fuck? No loss.
  • Tiernan
    Even as sarcasm that is reprehensible Laley...try not to be a penis every time you post.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Tiernan;1576805 wrote:I'm much more concerned about the fatherless children from our dumbass involvements in Afghanistan and Iraq Boogie. Hoffman's kids will be fine and never want for anything.
    Just like Hoffman's choice to do drugs it's the military men's choice to join. Nice Double Standard there
  • Heretic
    Tiernan;1576820 wrote:Even as sarcasm that is reprehensible Laley...try not to be a penis every time you post.
    Why not? You do and quite successfully at that.
  • Tiernan
    Still stalking me huh Heretic? My God man have some pride.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Tiernan;1576884 wrote:Still stalking me huh Heretic? My God man have some pride.
    When you've been called out on your stupidity you dodge the statement. What a *****.
  • Tiernan
    You have no clue to how I manipulate you and Heretic like puppets do you?
  • Trueblue23
    I may be in the minority here, but I fully believe addiction is a myth.. Charlie Sheen was right.
  • Fab4Runner
    Trueblue23;1576892 wrote:I may be in the minority here, but I fully believe addiction is a myth.. Charlie Sheen was right.
    You are very much in the minority.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Fab4Runner;1576895 wrote:You are very much in the minority.
    the minority that is populated by morons.
  • Trueblue23
    Fab4Runner;1576895 wrote:You are very much in the minority.
    Commander of Awesome;1576897 wrote:the minority that is populated by morons.
    Fair enough, but it's just my opinion.
  • SportsAndLady
    Trueblue23;1576902 wrote:Fair enough, but it's just my opinion.
    Why do you believe it's a myth?

    That's a pretty bold thing to believe (mainly because of all the facts that point to addiction being a disease and not a myth) so just curious what you read or heard that makes you think someone can't be addicted to something
  • Commander of Awesome
    SportsAndLady;1576909 wrote:Why do you believe it's a myth?

    That's a pretty bold thing to believe (mainly because of all the facts that point to addiction being a disease and not a myth) so just curious what you read or heard that makes you think someone can't be addicted to something
    You might as well ask him what evidence he has that the earth is the shape of a triangle. It really doesn't matter.
  • Glory Days
    queencitybuckeye;1576709 wrote:Ever had a beer? Tried a cigarette in middle school? There but for the grace of God, hypocrite.
    Yes and no, but its apples and oranges. one beer will not kill you. one hit of heroin could.
  • Glory Days
    DeyDurkie5;1576774 wrote:No shit he knows. But when you have a sickness that's grabbing a hold of you its hard to say he shouldve known it's bad. You are being a bit of a child in this argument
    so he was addicted to heroin before he even shot up heroin for the first time? how can one be addicted to something he has never done? was he born a heroin baby?
    DeyDurkie5;1576851 wrote:Just like Hoffman's choice to do drugs it's the military men's choice to join. Nice Double Standard there
    Military service=something generally positive and selfless.
    Shooting heroin=nothing good comes of it and its pretty selfish.
  • Glory Days
    In regards to comparing the level of addiction for drugs, heroin tops the list for both sites:
    http://www.thefix.com/content/10-hardest-addictive-drugs-to-kick7055#slide3

    http://www.drugaddictiontreatment.com/addiction-in-the-news/addiction-news/the-top-10-most-addictive-drugs-an-introduction/