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Phillip Seymour Hoffman found dead

  • OSH
    queencitybuckeye;1575725 wrote:Really? It's an illness. If he'd died of cancer would you say the same?
    You don't necessarily choose to get cancer. One chooses to do drugs -- knowing full-well addiction could be possible.
  • Fab4Runner
    reclegend22;1575721 wrote:I definitely feel sympathy for him. It's not like he was planning to leave his kids behind when sticking that needle in his arm. He was (apparently at the time) alone and sick and probably an emotional wreck. Addiction is a disease.

    That's crazy, though, that he was clean for 23 years before relapsing. Not that it matters, but it'd be interesting to know what triggered the slide back.
    He became addicted to prescription pills, which led to using heroin again.
  • queencitybuckeye
    OSH;1575727 wrote:You don't necessarily choose to get cancer. One chooses to do drugs -- knowing full-well addiction could be possible.
    If you've ever eaten anything unhealthy, it's a perfect correlation.
  • Sonofanump
    queencitybuckeye;1575725 wrote:Really? It's an illness. If he'd died of cancer would you say the same?
    He stuck the needle in his arm.
  • dlazz
    queencitybuckeye;1575733 wrote:If you've ever eaten anything unhealthy, it's a perfect correlation.
    What? No it isn't.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Sonofanump;1575737 wrote:He stuck the needle in his arm.
    Yes he did, due to the illness of addiction.
  • queencitybuckeye
    dlazz;1575740 wrote:What? No it isn't.
    of course it is.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    dlazz;1575436 wrote:Not a whole lot.

    I went through his IMDB list. The only two movies of his I've seen were The Big Lebowski (which sucked) and Boogie Nights.
    SportsAndLady;1575441 wrote:The big lebowski didn't suck, you are just a gigantic loser.
    lol +1.
  • thavoice
    queencitybuckeye;1575745 wrote:of course it is.
    Get what you are saying, but think it is a bit of a stretch.


    Always sad when someone dies I guess, but when it is at their own doing I dont have as much compassion for them.
  • queencitybuckeye
    thavoice;1575749 wrote:

    Always sad when someone dies I guess, but when it is at their own doing I dont have as much compassion for them.
    I guess that's a sentiment I struggle to understand. Do people have a finite amount of compassion, so they need to divvy it out based on who is more or less deserving?
  • Ironman92
    queencitybuckeye;1575725 wrote:Really? It's an illness. If he'd died of cancer would you say the same?
    No.

    You learn at a very young age how bad drugs are....then trying to be cool or curious you start doing them.

    I just don't put someone carrying needles around into the same boat as cancer.
  • Sonofanump
    queencitybuckeye;1575733 wrote:If you've ever eaten anything unhealthy, it's a perfect correlation.
    I don't feel sorry for glutinous lazy people who have related health issues. You put the fried shit in you mouth with a shovel, no one else did.
  • thavoice
    queencitybuckeye;1575754 wrote:I guess that's a sentiment I struggle to understand. Do people have a finite amount of compassion, so they need to divvy it out based on who is more or less deserving?
    I guess it is no different than having more compassion for a kid who dies over someone who is 80.
    Or someone who dies via an accident, or by someone else's hand, or as other state an illness such as cancer.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Sonofanump;1575760 wrote:I don't feel sorry for glutinous lazy people who have related health issues. You put the fried shit in you mouth with a shovel, no one else did.
    Nearly every human being has contributed in some way to the condition that killed them. Therefore, your position need be that you have little or no human compassion. That's certainly your right. Personally, I'd hate to live that way.
  • Con_Alma
    queencitybuckeye;1575770 wrote:Nearly every human being has contributed in some way to the condition that killed them. ....
    Some more than others....a lot more. That may be why the variation of compassion is felt.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Con_Alma;1575772 wrote:Some more than others....a lot more. That may be why the variation of compassion is felt.
    I get it. I guess I'm just lazy and choose to consider my compassion binary. Making a bad choice decades ago that leads to an illness related to one's demise isn't a disqualifying event for me.
  • Con_Alma
    queencitybuckeye;1575775 wrote:I get it. I guess I'm just lazy and choose to consider my compassion binary. Making a bad choice decades ago that leads to an illness related to one's demise isn't a disqualifying event for me.

    I think it's great you get to process in detail your decision making as it relates to compassion. Shouldn't we afford the others the ability to do the same in their own way?
  • Sonofanump
    queencitybuckeye;1575770 wrote:Nearly every human being has contributed in some way to the condition that killed them. Therefore, your position need be that you have little or no human compassion. That's certainly your right. Personally, I'd hate to live that way.
    I had an extremely healthy lunch. If someone wants to eat a Big Mac and fries, that's their problem when they have future health issues because of it. I won't say it was tragic that they died early due to health issues.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Con_Alma;1575780 wrote:I think it's great you get to process in detail your decision making as it relates to compassion. Shouldn't we afford the others the ability to do the same in their own way?
    I don't see where we have not done so.
  • Sonofanump
    I have plenty of compassion.
    Do I feel sorry for those with multiple TV's, buys alcohol and cigs and lives in poverty in the USA, no.
    Do I feel sorry for those eating dirt in the Dominican Republic, absolutely.
  • thavoice
    Sonofanump;1575781 wrote:I had an extremely healthy lunch. If someone wants to eat a Big Mac and fries, that's their problem when they have future health issues because of it. I won't say it was tragic that they died early due to health issues.
    One can eat a big mac and fries for lunch and it not be a big deal down the road. All about moderation. Hell, someone could eat 4 big macs in one setting and it not be a big deal.
  • Ironman92
    Sonofanump;1575760 wrote:I don't feel sorry for glutinous lazy people who have related health issues. You put the fried shit in you mouth with a shovel, no one else did.
    That's fine.

    My grandma was a 5'6 135 LB woman who never smoked and worked two jobs (one being a factory)....she died of cancer at age 60.....her brother very similar died at age 54 of cancer.

    Not all cancer is a product of poor health choices.
  • Con_Alma
    queencitybuckeye;1575786 wrote:I don't see where we have not done so.
    ???

    I don't know that we haven't ....and for that I'm glad.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Sonofanump;1575781 wrote:I had an extremely healthy lunch. If someone wants to eat a Big Mac and fries, that's their problem when they have future health issues because of it. I won't say it was tragic that they died early due to health issues.
    No one's saying you have to. You can be as holier than thou as you choose to be.
  • queencitybuckeye
    Con_Alma;1575796 wrote:???

    I don't know that we haven't ....and for that I'm glad.
    Then why did you bring it up?