Which is worse?

• Manhattan Buckeye

  vball10set;1463855 wrote:Not a good analogy, but nice try. This would be more like giving shareholders a say in how the enterprise is run. The owner has the final say, but it's always good to keep the shareholders involved. JMO.

  Still trying to post a pic of a hot Asian woman (safe for work), but in this case a few shareholders are trying to tank the company which never works. That is why (not taking this to the political board) some progressive members of society buy shares in Halliburton or ExxonMobile just to have a "say" at the annual meeting.
• Fly4Fun

  

  vball10set;1463855 wrote:Not a good analogy, but nice try. This would be more like giving shareholders a say in how the enterprise is run. The owner has the final say, but it's always good to keep the shareholders involved. JMO.

  You do realize that the shareholders are the (residual) owners right? If you're talking about the difference in voting power, then that statement is a little more correct depending on who is on the Board and who are the officers of the company, and what the voting arrangements are for different classes of shares.
• SportsAndLady

  

  queencitybuckeye;1463854 wrote:Because it's a exercise in futility. If you think that if Justin changes his moderator roster, that the site assholes will cease being assholes and new members will flock to the site, you're dreaming.

  
  Not at all saying that. But do you think these "assholes" are being assholes just to be one? Or do you think with a little change they could try not to be an asshole because the admin is trying to improve the place?
  
  For example.. I call people names on here from time to time. I would definitely avoid doing that if Justin implemented this voting rule because it shows me the forum is changing to better my time on here. Without this change, what's my motivation to not break the rules?
• SportsAndLady

  

  Fly4Fun;1463865 wrote:You do realize that the shareholders are the (residual) owners right? The Board of Directors has the final say over the overall business plan and other things such as executive compensation. The CEO and upper level management deal with the day to day running of the business.

  
  Really helping with your smug reputation here. Lol.
• thavoice

  They need to hire fab4funner to be like danica patrick on those go daddy.com commercials to try and get people to flock to this site.
• SportsAndLady

  

  thavoice;1463870 wrote:They need to hire fab4funner to be like danica patrick on those go daddy.com commercials to try and get people to flock to this site.

  
  Um, no.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Lets be creepy, that'll flock new visitors!!
• like_that

  

  justincredible;1463853 wrote:I wonder.

  So, did you send gochiefs to ask me that question privately, or did he do it himself and he was a weasel rat. Either way, you could have asked me yourself, or it is pretty girly of gochiefs to be a weasel rat.
  
  Just so it is not taken out of context, because it seems like you have taken it out of context. I said you will def wotn see complaining out of me about moderation. UNLESS you decide to take on the role of f4f to make a point, which wouldn't surprise me. I don't think you will, but it wouldn't be the first time where you tried to prove your point.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  SportsAndLady;1463868 wrote:Really helping with your smug reputation here. Lol.

  What is it with the word "smug?"
  
  Is it up there with "fail"?
• queencitybuckeye

  vball10set;1463855 wrote:Not a good analogy, but nice try. This would be more like giving shareholders a say in how the enterprise is run. The owner has the final say, but it's always good to keep the shareholders involved. JMO.

  Actually, mine is more accurate. A say in how a business is run is not what people are proposing here, they want to be the decision makers, which isn't how it works in "real" life.
• SportsAndLady

  

  SnotBubbles;1463856 wrote:Don't put it to a fucking vote. It's your website. You appoint, you ban, you regulate content. If people don't like it, they can fuck off.
  
  Suggestions are great, but if you're happy with the moderation you have and they're doing the job you want them to do....fuck everyone else.
  
  Don't forget the fact that this is your website. If it's going to work, you need to run it accordingly, like you're the boss and we are your minions. Run it like a business, let people know you're the boss.
  
  And change your avatar to this:
  

  
  If Justin does this, the site will be ruined. It's not even a debate.
  
  You're seriously going to listen to snot, Justin? Lmao
• SportsAndLady

  

  queencitybuckeye;1463879 wrote:Actually, mine is more accurate. A say in how a business is run is not what people are proposing here, they want to be the decision makers, which isn't how it works in "real" life.

  
  I honestly understand what you're saying. Just don't think we are wanting to be the decision makers, just want our voice to be heard about how terrible a mod F4F is. Justin won't listen, so what else are we going to do? A semi annual vote isn't much to ask. At least in my opinion. If anything, it would give the OC a little more traffic as it would be a unique trait of the site compares to others.
• Curly J

  

  SnotBubbles;1463856 wrote:Don't put it to a fucking vote. It's your website. You appoint, you ban, you regulate content. If people don't like it, they can fuck off.
  
  Suggestions are great, but if you're happy with the moderation you have and they're doing the job you want them to do....fuck everyone else.
  
  Don't forget the fact that this is your website. If it's going to work, you need to run it accordingly, like you're the boss and we are your minions. Run it like a business, let people know you're the boss.
  
  And change your avatar to this:
  

  Yea...I see how that worked for Mike Clark and his site with that other person who assisted him build that forum.
• SportsAndLady

  

  justincredible;1463851 wrote:You sure about that?

  
  Wasn't trying to be a dick just didn't understand what you meant lol
• justincredible

  

  like_that;1463875 wrote:So, did you send gochiefs to ask me that question privately, or did he do it himself and he was a weasel rat. Either way, you could have asked me yourself, or it is pretty girly of gochiefs to be a weasel rat.

  Obviously I sent him to do it because I am not to be trusted. But seriously, he shared the PM with me. I don't think that makes him a weasel, he was just letting me know that I may still be facing a losing battle no matter what I do. Btw, I don't hold grudges or have agendas.
  

  SportsAndLady;1463881 wrote:You're seriously going to listen to snot, Justin? Lmao

  What gave you the idea that I was going to change my mind about the poll after his post?
• justincredible

  

  SportsAndLady;1463886 wrote:Wasn't trying to be a dick just didn't understand what you meant lol

  I didn't think you were trying to be a dick. But no where in my post was there a double negative.
• like_that

  

  justincredible;1463889 wrote:Obviously I sent him to do it because I am not to be trusted. But seriously, he shared the PM with me. I don't think that makes him a weasel, he was just letting me know that I may still be facing a losing battle no matter what I do. Btw, I don't hold grudges or have agendas.
  
  
  
  What gave you the idea that I was going to change my mind about the poll after his post?

  Here, I will just make it clear....
  
  You won't see me publicly bitch about moderation if cry4fail is removed. If I have a concern/complaint I will pm the mod or you.
• justincredible

  

  like_that;1463893 wrote:Here, I will just make it clear....
  
  You won't see me publicly bitch about moderation if cry4fail is removed. If I have a concern/complaint I will pm the mod or you.

  I appreciate that. But I'd actually prefer you PM the mod AND myself. You should be able to PM multiple people at the same time.
• queencitybuckeye

  SportsAndLady;1463866 wrote:Not at all saying that. But do you think these "assholes" are being assholes just to be one? Or do you think with a little change they could try not to be an asshole because the admin is trying to improve the place?

  I think there are some of both. Unfortunately, those in the former category seem to believe that their being assholes actually constitutes a contribution to the site, and their absence would be a detriment to the site. Not the case. There are posters whose absence may be missed to some small degree, but damaging to the success of the site? Not at all.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  
• Manhattan Buckeye

  Curse you my inability to post a picture!
• mcburg93

  

  justincredible;1463889 wrote:
  
  What gave you the idea that I was going to change my mind about the poll after his post?

  Can we have two polls? one about F4F and one to get rid of the ones that always cause the trouble?
• Fly4Fun

  

  like_that;1463893 wrote:Here, I will just make it clear....
  
  You won't see me publicly bitch about moderation if cry4fail is removed. If I have a concern/complaint I will pm the mod or you.

  You're obviously assuming I would be removed. I'm curious what would your behavior be if the vote goes in favor of me retaining my moderator status?
• LJ

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;1463897 wrote:

  
• thavoice

  SportsAndLady;1463872 wrote:Um, no.

  You're right, this site needs more than her to regain some sort of recognition.
  
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