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Pick6

Hear anything dlazz?

Figured I would bump this thread, because my questions arent worth starting a new one

Going through the pre-employment stage for the company I have my internship for this summer. First off, they are using Verified Person to do a background check on me. Anyone have experience with these people? Do I need to make my social network accounts more private, or even temporarily delete them? I dont really censor myself.

They also want me to feel out questionnaires to get to know me better. Some questions are like "if you could have any job in the world, what would it be?". I dont know how I should answer it, because I doubt everybody's #1 choice is to be a CPA.

These are probably dumb questions, but I havent gone through a process like this before and dont want to mess it up. Its a company that I think I will really like based upon what I have seen during the recruiting process.

Belly35

dlazz;1403083 wrote:I am still waiting to hear back from the OSU position. They were getting ready to make an offer to either me or another guy. I don't know if they offered the other guy, or they're stuck in redtape.

It wouldn't shock me in the least bit if it were the latter.

I interviewed for a state position yesterday, and it sounded like I would be a perfect fit.

BUT, I don't think they'd like some of the answers on a polygraph test. Evidently, they aren't big fans of people who say 'yes' to "Have you ever illegally downloaded music?"

You work for (or you say you work for) a very large international engineering office, with great potential for advancing, inter corporation movement, great benefits and above norm pay scale...... So why are you looking at other jobs of lesser opportunities?

dlazz

Pick6;1408618 wrote:Hear anything dlazz?

Job 1 @ OSU: I interviewed and waited a week passed. The following Monday they emailed and asked for references, including my current supervisor. They checked my references and called me in for a follow-up interview with the Dean of the college the next week. I met with him, and was told that it was between me and someone else, and that they would be extending an offer within two days. That was a week and a half ago.

Last Monday I broke down and emailed, asking about it. Apparently the Dean didn't like me or the other guy, because the hiring managers were instructed to "broaden the applicant pool". I guess that means I'm out. Back to the grind, I guess.

Job 2 @ State of Ohio: I also got passed up for a state position last week (was 2nd out of several possible candidates).

Job 3 @ OSU: I had an interview last Wednesday and am waiting to hear back from it. I'm sure I won't get it though, since that's how it's been for the past 12 months.

Belly -- I work at an engineering firm, but I work in IT. There is very little room for potential growth -- I have little CAD experience and most of the systems we utilize are beyond my head. It's interesting work but I don't get hands-on with most of it..more or less all of the shit nobody else wants to do gets trickled down to me so I am not learning a whole lot.

After the Job 1 debacle, I am now in a hard place. My supervisor knows I'm looking. I gave him my reasons for looking, but he insists "it will get better".

Belly35

You gave them your Supervisor name for a contact because they ask for it .... WTH Why not just jump on a sword .... What where you thinking. Lesson... information is important and is not given away cheap... Integrity also has value and the fact they asking for your Supervisor is wrong and you should have had the balls to say so, explaining to potential problem. (Common sense bro) They would respect you more for having a pair. In an interview you are not at their mercy you also have morals and value that should be respected and the integrity to say no. </SPAN>

You did the right thing by telling the Supervisor your concerns. If he listened and commented “thing will get better” you’ll have to trust in that. What you have to do is show some additional fortitude. Ask your Supervisor for guidance and ask for more demanding challenging assignments (note: you better make sure you can accomplish the task) this is where you become a hero or a bum.. it up to you… if you’re in IT and don’t know something learn it. Not to hurt your feeling but I have self taught myself CAD, Engineering Copier Networking installation and Server set up. They do have schooling for that type of n networking protocol.
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GoChiefs

There is absolutely nothing wrong with using your Supervisor as a reference. Hell, most of the time, if I'm on good terms with my Supervisor, I have voluntarily used them. My Supervisor always knew I was job hunting, and I always asked permission. Who the hell better to use as a good reference to talk you up other than your current boss???

dlazz

GoChiefs;1408915 wrote:There is absolutely nothing wrong with using your Supervisor as a reference. Hell, most of the time, if I'm on good terms with my Supervisor, I have voluntarily used them. My Supervisor always knew I was job hunting, and I always asked permission. Who the hell better to use as a good reference to talk you up other than your current boss???

He wasn't on my list of references. They called all of my references, and THEN asked for my supervisors contact info. I didn't really have a choice in the matter.

And whether or not "things will get better" is a moot point. I don't care for the director of the group. He's about 90% of the reason I am looking in the first place.

WebFire

GoChiefs;1408915 wrote:There is absolutely nothing wrong with using your Supervisor as a reference. Hell, most of the time, if I'm on good terms with my Supervisor, I have voluntarily used them. My Supervisor always knew I was job hunting, and I always asked permission. Who the hell better to use as a good reference to talk you up other than your current boss???

This is terrible advice unless you want to be looking for a job because you are UNEMPLOYED.

shook_17

Just saw this thread. But hell I'll chime in. Business owner in the contruction world, bought the company from my dad 2.5 years ago.

Also was a cadet in OSHP but had to have back surgery and that is on hold til June until I get cleared to go back.

Also a fire fighter.

dlazz

shook_17;1408945 wrote:Also was a cadet in OSHP.

I've tossed that idea around, but ultimately decided that it wasn't for me. You like it?

shook_17

dlazz;1408948 wrote:I've tossed that idea around, but ultimately decided that it wasn't for me. You like it?

Yes, surprisingly I do. The academy is very structured, mentally and phyisically challenging. But the end prize will be worth it if and when I complete the academy in October.

But to be honest it was a completely different world for me. Im use to being the boss and setting my own schedule. Down there, hell no. Thier way or the highway.

dlazz

shook_17;1408951 wrote:Thier way or the highway.

Technically, it's the highway either way you choose.

shook_17

dlazz;1408960 wrote:Technically, it's the highway either way you choose.

I see what you did there. ha. What do you do now?

dlazz

shook_17;1408968 wrote:I see what you did there. ha. What do you do now?

Few posts up

OSH

shook_17;1408945 wrote:Also was a cadet in OSHP

dlazz;1408948 wrote:I've tossed that idea around, but ultimately decided that it wasn't for me.

It's incredibly hard to get into too.

My best friend was trying in late 2012. He stomped everyone on all the fitness tests. He's one of the most gifted athletes I've ever been around and knew personally. He's no professional, but he can do practically anything. State qualifier in wrestling. Fit as a fiddle. And he gets denied.

About as lousy as they come. No reason a guy like him should get denied. But, he didn't have the right "skin color" or "gender."

shook_17

OSH;1408974 wrote:It's incredibly hard to get into too.

My best friend was trying in late 2012. He stomped everyone on all the fitness tests. He's one of the most gifted athletes I've ever been around and knew personally. He's no professional, but he can do practically anything. State qualifier in wrestling. Fit as a fiddle. And he gets denied.

About as lousy as they come. No reason a guy like him should get denied. But, he didn't have the right "skin color" or "gender."

Right, it definitely wasn't easy. The process for me was about 8 to 9 months. Hell the entry exam was hard. Honestly when I applied it I was not expecting to get hired. But as the process went on and on it became more evident they were looking for people like me. And sure enough I was hired, attended the academy before I hurt my back and had to have another surgery. Im now even more motivated by seeing my the friends that I made at the academy graduate and on the road.

WebFire

OSH;1408974 wrote:It's incredibly hard to get into too.

My best friend was trying in late 2012. He stomped everyone on all the fitness tests. He's one of the most gifted athletes I've ever been around and knew personally. He's no professional, but he can do practically anything. State qualifier in wrestling. Fit as a fiddle. And he gets denied.

About as lousy as they come. No reason a guy like him should get denied. But, he didn't have the right "skin color" or "gender."

So OSP only hires minorities and women? Strange, because most I see on the road are white males. There is more to it than being fit.

Automatik

Wait....so people think it's cool to tell your boss your job searching? And use them as a reference?

LOL

Moving within a company is the only sitaution I would even consider doing this

dlazz

Automatik;1408981 wrote:Wait....so people think it's cool to tell your boss your job searching? And use them as a reference?

LOL

Moving within a company is the only sitaution I would even consider doing this

Or if the company is folding, then it doesn't matter.

I got the impression that I was the only candidate on the table when they asked for his info, so I forked it over.

Oh well. Nothing I can do about it now so I'm not going to stress over it.

OSH

WebFire;1408978 wrote:So OSP only hires minorities and women? Strange, because most I see on the road are white males. There is more to it than being fit.

No, but that was the case for this most recent hiring/pool.

There is a ratio that they try to keep in the academy. My friend may have just tried too late, already had enough white, male applicants, or just tried at the wrong time. I talked with another patrolman after my friend got rejected...the patrolman said he got in on his 3rd try. He just advised that if you get rejected...try and try again.

WebFire

OSH;1408996 wrote:No, but that was the case for this most recent hiring/pool.

There is a ratio that they try to keep in the academy. My friend may have just tried too late, already had enough white, male applicants, or just tried at the wrong time. I talked with another patrolman after my friend got rejected...the patrolman said he got in on his 3rd try. He just advised that if you get rejected...try and try again.

Gotchya. Good old affirmative action. Even if it's not law, seems they still do it anyway.

shook_17

When I was in the academy we had over 100 people. I bet their were 10 African Americans, and maybe 10 women. But I got in on my first try.

shook_17

WebFire;1408978 wrote:So OSP only hires minorities and women? Strange, because most I see on the road are white males. There is more to it than being fit.

Absolutely the truth.

GoChiefs

Automatik;1408981 wrote:Wait....so people think it's cool to tell your boss your job searching? And use them as a reference?

LOL

Moving within a company is the only sitaution I would even consider doing this

It helped me get the job I have now, so LOL all you want.

like_that

GoChiefs;1409489 wrote:It helped me get the job I have now, so LOL all you want.

You are definitely an exception.

GoChiefs

like_that;1409572 wrote:You are definitely an exception.

I can definitely see that.

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