Job Thread

• rydawg5

  I was a bookkeeper for 7 years. I decided I didn't make enough money. I applied to be a recruiter. I interviewed 2 times. The 2nd interview theme "how can you be in sales when you are a bookkeeper"
  
  I didn't get the job. I was pissed. I quit the bookkeeping job and took a 100% commission job anyone with a head could get. I doubled the money I made at the commssion job than I had made with the bookkeeping job.
  
  7 months into the shit commission job, I got a job offer from a great job with Commission/Salary - I took it and it's been the best move I've ever made and am making more money than ever before.
  
  So thank you recruiting job for turning me down.
• dlazz

  gport_tennis;1392619 wrote:none of the jobs our clients have available right now pay less than $30 an hour. You wouldn't know that though because we are evil.

  I dealt with a recruiting agency after I graduated and they were less than helpful.
  
  I don't doubt that you have clients that pay well. They are also probably nearly all project/contract jobs with no benefits, hence the inflated hourly rate. I'm not interested, and you are useless (to me, anyway).
• dlazz

  SportsAndLady;1392605 wrote:For an entry level job (I'm assuming this is what you're going for)

  No, I have a few years of experience under my belt.
• gport_tennis

  dlazz;1392638 wrote:I dealt with a recruiting agency after I graduated and they were less than helpful.
  
  I don't doubt that you have clients that pay well. They are also probably nearly all project/contract jobs with no benefits, hence the inflated hourly rate. I'm not interested, and you are useless (to me, anyway).

  
  Little bit of everything. Some direct hire, some contract, some contract-2-hire.
  
  Recruiters probably call you a lot because you have an american name and will be easier to deal with than most of the foreign it crowd
• dlazz

  gport_tennis;1392647 wrote:Little bit of everything. Some direct hire, some contract, some contract-2-hire.
  
  Recruiters probably call you a lot because you have an american name and will be easier to deal with than most of the foreign it crowd

  That I will agree with.
• Automatik

  

  gport_tennis;1392647 wrote:Little bit of everything. Some direct hire, some contract, some contract-2-hire.
  
  Recruiters probably call you a lot because you have an american name and will be easier to deal with than most of the foreign it crowd

  So you only deal with IT?
  
  Dammit!
• O-Trap

  

  I've known of good recruiter experiences at the corporate level, but it does seem like there are a LOT of them who focus on the lower level IT niche.
• Automatik

  

  O-Trap;1392665 wrote:I've known of good recruiter experiences at the corporate level, but it does seem like there are a LOT of them who focus on the lower level IT niche.

  And temp, immediate hire, office drone type work.
  
  Recruiters for legit jobs are out there, just fewer compared to what we mentioned....hence why I asked about them in this thread. I'm dealing with two right now in Columbus, so far solid leads are few and far between
• O-Trap

  

  Automatik;1392668 wrote:And temp, immediate hire, office drone type work.
  
  Recruiters for legit jobs are out there, just fewer compared to what we mentioned....hence why I asked about them in this thread. I'm dealing with two right now in Columbus, so far solid leads are few and far between

  Yeah, it's certainly a predatory dynamic by definition (any tier-2 setup is going to be), but it can indeed have its advantages if you find the right circumstances.
• Automatik

  

  Just curious, what is a "tier-2 setup" in the recruiting world? Is this a dumb question? lol
• O-Trap

  

  Automatik;1392676 wrote:Just curious, what is a "tier-2 setup" in the recruiting world? Is this a dumb question? lol

  I believe all recruiting is tier-2. It's used to describe an instance where you get paid for services rendered (Tier 1), and the person who referred you also gets paid for your services rendered (Tier 2).
  
  It's fairly common in affiliate marketing and is also often a selling point for pyramid schemes/MLMs.
• Shane Falco

  Petroleum relocation engineer. 19 years. Set my own hrs. Show up and go home when ever I want .Very few weekends (if I do work on Sat. its because I want to). Great pay. 5 weeks pd vacation per yr
  I do however scrap barnacles off of boats on a parttime gig.
• O-Trap

  

  Shane Falco;1392898 wrote:I do however scrap barnacles off of boats on a parttime gig.

  I see what you did there.
• scoreboard

  

  Currently unemployed and looking.
  
  Worst feeling in the world to not be a provider for your family.
• hoops23

  

  scoreboard;1392957 wrote:Currently unemployed and looking.
  
  Worst feeling in the world to not be a provider for your family.

  Wish you the best
• SportsAndLady

  

  scoreboard;1392957 wrote:Currently unemployed and looking.
  
  Worst feeling in the world to not be a provider for your family.

  
  What field you lookin in?
• OSH

  

  scoreboard;1392957 wrote:Currently unemployed and looking.
  
  Worst feeling in the world to not be a provider for your family.

  I feel like I'm there. Had a big breakdown a couple weeks ago about it. Career changes suck...is where my mind is at.
• like_that

  

  Federal Contract Specialist. Not sure if I like it or not. Probably really won't like it when we get furloughed.
• friendfromlowry

  scoreboard;1392957 wrote:Currently unemployed and looking.
  
  Worst feeling in the world to not be a provider for your family.

  I watched my dad go through the same about 6-8 years ago. Normally a soft-spoken, laid-back guy became very anxious and frustrated.
• O-Trap

  

  scoreboard;1392957 wrote:Currently unemployed and looking.
  
  Worst feeling in the world to not be a provider for your family.

  Did this for most of 2010. It's a tough position. All I can tell you is to keep searching even when it's hard to get motivated. In the meantime, maybe even find ways to grab spare income here and there. Odd jobs, temp work, selling personal possessions ... none of those are fun, but they can help while you work to get yourself employed again.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  friendfromlowry;1393458 wrote:I watched my dad go through the same about 6-8 years ago. Normally a soft-spoken, laid-back guy became very anxious and frustrated.

  Try being under the age of 30 today, particularly under 25. My sister-in-law (will be 24 in June) graduated with honors from the University of Virginia in Econ, got a Masters at St Andrews in Econ, received a Summer internship at Morgan Stanley in London where fewer than 10% of interns got full offers (she was one of the 90% that didn't). She's spent the past 3 months living in her parents basement (or with us), sending out dozens of resumes a day and can't even get an interview anywhere in any industry.
  
  She isn't an exception. Most of her friends from both schools are unemployed, living at home or seeking out more education to try to postpone entering the horrid job market. This is not going to end well when we have a generation of people that aren't working and developing skills - with the whipsaw that many of them are graduating with backbreaking debt.
• dlazz

  There's jobs out there, it just seems like the only ones that are out there are for
  1) recent high-school grads (low paying/non-skilled work)
  2) skilled/experienced work.
  
  
  There's virtually nothing in between. Even when those jobs do show up, they usually overstate their requirements to weed out the avalanche of resumes they're about to receive.
• sleeper

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;1393463 wrote:Try being under the age of 30 today, particularly under 25. My sister-in-law (will be 24 in June) graduated with honors from the University of Virginia in Econ, got a Masters at St Andrews in Econ, received a Summer internship at Morgan Stanley in London where fewer than 10% of interns got full offers (she was one of the 90% that didn't). She's spent the past 3 months living in her parents basement (or with us), sending out dozens of resumes a day and can't even get an interview anywhere in any industry.
  
  She isn't an exception. Most of her friends from both schools are unemployed, living at home or seeking out more education to try to postpone entering the horrid job market. This is not going to end well when we have a generation of people that aren't working and developing skills - with the whipsaw that many of them are graduating with backbreaking debt.

  What does she want to do? Where does she want to live?
• Manhattan Buckeye

  She would prefer to live in London (where we are moving in a few weeks - she's welcome to stay with us) but getting a work visa in the EU/UK zone is next to impossible for a non-citizen. Similar with Asia (although she doesn't want to move there), as DLazz mentioned above if you want to get a work visa you're going to need to have a sponsor that will support a 6 figure salaried job - something young recent graduates aren't likely going to receive.
  
  It is also complicated by the fact that her boyfriend (Italian citizen) is going to get another graduate degree in London so he's located there at least until his education visa expires which is probably another year or so and she wants to be near him.
  
  Still, she's targeting New York, Washington and other east coast markets. She interned as an equity analyst and has very good modeling and analysis skills....10 years ago she would have no problem getting a position at one of the big banks or hedge/private equity shops. Those jobs are quite scarce now.
• sleeper

  

  That makes it far more difficult to get a job internationally as a US citizen. Her field is pretty impossible to get a job in unless she has experience(beyond an internship) or a rock solid inside connection.
  
  
  I mean I graduated college about 2 years ago and I can list about 40 people right now that all have college degrees and are waiting tables at Bob Evans. The only way to get a job out of college is major in STEM, particularly the engineering field OR have a connection inside a company that happens to be hiring. Heck, one of the biggest dumbasses I know from Ohio State skated by with a shitty GPA in chemical engineering and now he probably makes more than I do. The only reason I have my current job is because I knew someone that worked here and got myself in front of someone for an interview.