Religion
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Con_Alma
How many times must we state that faith or belief is the desired basis chosen by God?sleeper;1389196 wrote:So there is no truth only belief. Gotcha.
I hope you do "got it". Yes, it's based on faith and faith alone. That has been presented numerous times. -
O-Trap
Oh I misread that. My apologies.sleeper;1389216 wrote:Look at it again. Above 10% disbelief not below 10% disbelief.
If I had to guess, I'd probably say Canada, but I have no idea why. Canucks just always bugged me.
Was I correct on the first question? -
O-Trap
Whoa whoa whoa ... what is based on faith now?Con_Alma;1389220 wrote:How many times must we state that faith or belief is the desired basis chosen by God?
I hope you do "got it". Yes, it's based on faith and faith alone. That has been presented numerous times. -
Con_Alma
eternal salvationO-Trap;1389225 wrote:Whoa whoa whoa ... what is based on faith now?
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O-Trap
Oh, okay. Whew ... You scared me for a moment.Con_Alma;1389227 wrote:eternal salvation -
Con_Alma...stemming from the inquiry requesting reasonable proof that bacteria will or will not have such salvation. Crazy, I know.
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sleeper
At what point in the chain of evolution does one earn a soul; or in another way, which level of 'human' does one finally achieve worthiness of heaven by god. Given the differences in genomes from chimpanzees and humans being only slightly greater than the differences between individual humans, do chimps go to heaven too?I suppose I should have qualified that by saying that the distinction lies between that and a being with a soul (or "consciousness," if you prefer) that continues on. Apologies for not being thorough. -
sleeper
You are incorrect. The first answer is Vietnam.O-Trap;1389222 wrote:Oh I misread that. My apologies.
If I had to guess, I'd probably say Canada, but I have no idea why. Canucks just always bugged me.
Was I correct on the first question? -
O-Trap
80% of Vietnamese don't believe in God? Interesting, to be sure.sleeper;1389243 wrote:You are incorrect. The answer is Vietnam. -
sleeper
I applaud the biologists who don't believe it. I'd love to see their competing research that directly conflicts with the status quo. :thumbup:jmog;1389173 wrote:This actually not true at all. But why should we expect sleeper to list actual facts and back them up when he can state things as FACT!!
There are many PhD biologists who do not believe this. Notice I did NOT say most or a majority, I said many. -
sleeper
That is correct based on this sample size.O-Trap;1389254 wrote:80% of Vietnamese don't believe in God? Interesting, to be sure. -
sleeper
So your living your life based on an unsubstantiated guess rooted in no fact and no reason? Like I said, there is no truth only belief. What's true for one is not true for another; that applies to many facets of life. :rolleyes:Con_Alma;1389220 wrote:How many times must we state that faith or belief is the desired basis chosen by God?
I hope you do "got it". Yes, it's based on faith and faith alone. That has been presented numerous times. -
O-Trap
Oh I wasn't doubting you. I just would have expected it to be a western, first-world nation.sleeper;1389259 wrote:That is correct based on this sample size. -
sleeper
I have seen no evidence either way. I find it sad that god does not wish to allow access to all forms of life and only focus on one branch of the evolutionary tree.Con_Alma;1389234 wrote:...stemming from the inquiry requesting reasonable proof that bacteria will or will not have such salvation. Crazy, I know. -
Con_Almasleeper;1389264 wrote:I have seen no evidence either way. I find it sad that god does not wish to allow access to all forms of life and only focus on one branch of the evolutionary tree.
Maybe you haven't.
Why do you think it's sad a God you don't believe does or does not do any particular thing? -
Con_Alma
I am living my life exactly the same I lived before I accepted and communed with God.sleeper;1389262 wrote:So your living your life based on an unsubstantiated guess rooted in no fact and no reason? Like I said, there is no truth only belief. What's true for one is not true for another; that applies to many facets of life. :rolleyes:
There's reason behind such a decision. It's just not reason that's appealing nor motivating to you. -
sleeper
There is no belief, there is only truth.Con_Alma;1389423 wrote:Maybe you haven't.
Why do you think it's sad a God you don't believe does or does not do any particular thing? -
O-Trap
You know that those two aren't mutually exclusive, right?sleeper;1389457 wrote:There is no belief, there is only truth.
And there IS belief. -
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sleeper
Captain Con_Alma's argument is that because I don't believe in god then I don't follow the same fate as those who do. This is a binary scenario where there either is a god and that is the truth or there isn't. If god doesn't accept bacteria into his kingdom, then why does he allow humans? Bacteria aren't much different than a handicapped religious human being so why are the treated differently and denied heaven? If god exists, he's an asshole.O-Trap;1389470 wrote:You know that those two aren't mutually exclusive, right?
And there IS belief. -
sleeper
Do believers in say, Catholicism, believe that all other religions are wrong? If so, what causes you to reject the other religious beliefs and accept your current belief as truth?
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Con_Alma
No one ha said anything about your fate.sleeper;1389531 wrote:Captain Con_Alma's argument is that because I don't believe in god then I don't follow the same fate as those who do. This is a binary scenario where there either is a god and that is the truth or there isn't. If god doesn't accept bacteria into his kingdom, then why does he allow humans? Bacteria aren't much different than a handicapped religious human being so why are the treated differently and denied heaven? If god exists, he's an ****.
There is a God.
Who said God didn't accept bacteria? Who said God "allowed humans"? You are making a lot of assumptions
Are you sure bacteria is treated differently than humans? It's my understanding they both return to dust.
If you think God's an **** there's no reason for you to seek him out. -
Con_Alma
Yes.sleeper;1389556 wrote:Do believers in say, Catholicism, believe that all other religions are wrong? If so, what causes you to reject the other religious beliefs and accept your current belief as truth?
I'm not Catholic but at the risk of answering for them ...your second question would insirre the following answer.....the same thing that causes a Catholic to accept their belief as truth would apply here. It has been outlined numerous times in this thread and others. If your own beliefs are contradictory to others, the others must be rejected if one has accepted their own as truth. They both are not correct. -
sleeper
Well when it's all made up anyway, my assumptions are just as valid as yours. It's EZ.Con_Alma;1389615 wrote:No one ha said anything about your fate.
There is a God.
Who said God didn't accept bacteria? Who said God "allowed humans"? You are making a lot of assumptions
Are you sure bacteria is treated differently than humans? It's my understanding they both return to dust.
If you think God's an **** there's no reason for you to seek him out. -
sleeper
So what caused you to validate one religion over another? Why is your faith right and the others wrong?Con_Alma;1389616 wrote:Yes.
I'm not Catholic but at the risk of answering for them ...your second question would insirre the following answer.....the same thing that causes a Catholic to accept their belief as truth would apply here. It has been outlined numerous times in this thread and others. If your own beliefs are contradictory to others, the others must be rejected if one has accepted their own as truth. They both are not correct.