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fish82
Yes. If it works for you, then it's fine. That's what he's been fucking telling you for five posts now.sleeper;1152417 wrote:But its okay for me to believe the Civil War did not exist? -
Con_Alma
Of course it doesn't. Did someone dispute that?sleeper;1152423 wrote:Exactly. So believing the Christ exists or that there is a Heaven, or that the Bible is real, etc. does not make these things real. Period.
Belief doesn't make something real. Belief is the result. -
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-con_alma'dCon_Alma;1152429 wrote:Of course it doesn't. Did someone dispute that?
Belief doesn't make something real. Belief is the result. -
sleeper
You were. Belief is not the result of any reality. If it is, and you are talking to ghosts, seek professional medical attention.Con_Alma;1152429 wrote:Of course it doesn't. Did someone dispute that?
Belief doesn't make something real. Belief is the result.
That is all. -
Con_Almasleeper;1152433 wrote:You were. Belief is not the result of any reality. If it is, and you are talking to ghosts, seek professional medical attention. ...
I have not only have I not posted that belief creates reality, I have posted multiple times that it is belief is the result as opposed to the cause.
Believing doesn't make it so. It being so makes people believe.
Promise?sleeper;1152433 wrote:...That is all. -
Raw Dawgin' it
How often do you watch star wars to keep up on your yoda speak?Con_Alma;1152436 wrote:I have not only have I not posted that belief creates reality, I have posted multiple times that it is belief is the result as opposed to the cause.
Believing doesn't make it so. It being so makes people believe. -
Con_Alma
I think it was the first Star Wars that I saw and it was when I was around JH age. It's the only time and the only one I have seen.Raw Dawgin' it;1152443 wrote:How often do you watch star wars to keep up on your yoda speak? -
enigmaax
True.Con_Alma;1152436 wrote:Believing doesn't make it so.
False.It being so makes people believe. -
sleeper
No. And I absolutely reject your notion that it being real causes people to believe. It's not real. It's never been proven, its not real. This shouldn't be complicated.Con_Alma;1152436 wrote:I have not only have I not posted that belief creates reality, I have posted multiple times that it is belief is the result as opposed to the cause.
Believing doesn't make it so. It being so makes people believe.
Promise? -
Con_Alma
Yes, we have disagreed with on that point the entire thread. That hasn't changed at all.sleeper;1152449 wrote:No. And I absolutely reject your notion that it being real causes people to believe. It's not real. It's never been proven, its not real. This shouldn't be complicated. -
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fish82
It's real to them. Sorry that makes you mad.sleeper;1152449 wrote:No. And I absolutely reject your notion that it being real causes people to believe. It's not real. It's never been proven, its not real. This shouldn't be complicated. -
sleeper
Then they should seek medical attention. Their reality is broken, that is a symptom of dementia.fish82;1152556 wrote:It's real to them. Sorry that makes you mad.
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Devils AdvocateYou can touch fake boobies. Are they fake or real?
And if you still say they are fake, I find them comforting.
So.... Am I stupid for enjoying something that is comforting to me? -
sleeper
Terrible analogy. You can verify if boobs are fake or real.Devils Advocate;1152567 wrote:You can touch fake boobies. Are they fake or real?
And if you still say they are fake, I find them comforting.
So.... Am I stupid for enjoying something that is comforting to me? -
enigmaax
Is there a difference between something that exists as an artificial replacement for something else and something that is completely imaginary? Do you ever wish a woman you are with had bigger boobs, so you just comfort yourself with the air around her boobs and convince yourself that you are actually touching tit?Devils Advocate;1152567 wrote:You can touch fake boobies. Are they fake or real?
And if you still say they are fake, I find them comforting.
So.... Am I stupid for enjoying something that is comforting to me? -
Con_Alma
What if it's not believed to be artificial and it isn't replacing something but it is it's own entity?enigmaax;1152574 wrote:Is there a difference between something that exists as an artificial replacement for something else and something that is completely imaginary? Do you ever wish a woman you are with had bigger boobs, so you just comfort yourself with the air around her boobs and convince yourself that you are actually touching tit? -
enigmaax
I think you've been through this, but a person who makes himself believe in something that doesn't exist doesn't suddenly mean that thing actually exists.Con_Alma;1152576 wrote:What if it's not believed to be artificial and it isn't replacing something but it is it's own entity?
Millions of kids believe Santa Clause exists, not as something artificial but as his own entity, who along with his reindeer somehow defies space, time, and gravity to deliver presents all over the world in a matter of a few hours one day a year. Is he real? -
Con_Alma
I also think I have agree with that premise.enigmaax;1152587 wrote:I think you've been through this, but a person who makes himself believe in something that doesn't exist doesn't suddenly mean that thing actually exists.
Belief doesn't create reality. -
enigmaax
Right, so why'd you ask again?Con_Alma;1152590 wrote:I also think I have agree with that premise.
Belief doesn't create reality. -
fish82
Interesting that the guy with several symptoms of OCPD wants to play amateur psychologist.sleeper;1152562 wrote:Then they should seek medical attention. Their reality is broken, that is a symptom of dementia.
Glad we got that out of the way, all believers should be in mental wards. -
sleeper
:rolleyes:fish82;1152606 wrote:Interesting that the guy with several symptoms of OCPD wants to play amateur psychologist. -
Con_Alma
...again, yet in a a different way as a follow up to the thought process I quoted. I chose to ask it differently just like others have asked the same thing differently. It can lend to approaching the issue from a different angle.enigmaax;1152597 wrote:Right, so why'd you ask again? -
fish82
:rolleyes::rolleyes:sleeper;1152609 wrote::rolleyes: