Your Top 15?
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sleeper
The problem is the B1G just beats up on each other. No other conference has to deal with what the B1G has to deal with so its no surprise that a team dominates OOC but has trouble against REAL competition in the B1G. I'd put an 8 loss B1G team over any of the junk in the SEC just because their schedule is so much more difficult.Northwestern was 4-0 in the OOC, but are 0-5 in the B1G -
Azubuike24
I like the sarcasm. However, wins over Cal (1-8), Syracuse (4-4), Western Michigan (1-8) and Maine (FCS, although a good one) points more to Northwestern just not being very good and not a victim of "getting beat up" by quality in-conference competition.sleeper;1529389 wrote:The problem is the B1G just beats up on each other. No other conference has to deal with what the B1G has to deal with so its no surprise that a team dominates OOC but has trouble against REAL competition in the B1G. I'd put an 8 loss B1G team over any of the junk in the SEC just because their schedule is so much more difficult.
Now, take Ole Miss (5-3) with a win over Texas by 21 in Austin and losses to Alabama, Auburn and Texas A&M (combined record 23-3) and there's an example of "beat up by eachother."
People would probably compare Northwestern and Ole Miss in-terms of being similar "quality wins", or lack thereof. -
Heretic
The thing that annoys the fuck out of me as far as NW goes is that I think their game with the Bucks was the one game they were at full strength because Mark was back for that game. And then after playing us, both him and Colter went down and the team is just a lot more vanilla and easy to stop with those two speedsters to worry about.Azubuike24;1529456 wrote:I like the sarcasm. However, wins over Cal (1-8), Syracuse (4-4), Western Michigan (1-8) and Maine (FCS, although a good one) points more to Northwestern just not being very good and not a victim of "getting beat up" by quality in-conference competition.
Now, take Ole Miss (5-3) with a win over Texas by 21 in Austin and losses to Alabama, Auburn and Texas A&M (combined record 23-3) and there's an example of "beat up by eachother."
People would probably compare Northwestern and Ole Miss in-terms of being similar "quality wins", or lack thereof.
Led to a scenario where they looked very good in scaring OSU...and then completely fell apart to make everyone look a bit weaker in comparison. -
vball10setHeretic;1529907 wrote:The thing that annoys the fuck out of me as far as NW goes is that I think their game with the Bucks was the one game they were at full strength because Mark was back for that game. And then after playing us, both him and Colter went down and the team is just a lot more vanilla and easy to stop with those two speedsters to worry about.
Led to a scenario where they looked very good in scaring OSU...and then completely fell apart to make everyone look a bit weaker in comparison.
Excellent post. I had this same discussion over the weekend, and it's nice to hear I'm not alone in this thinking. -
Azubuike24
Agree. They definitely "rose up" for that game. This is something a committee will be able to take into account.Heretic;1529907 wrote:The thing that annoys the fuck out of me as far as NW goes is that I think their game with the Bucks was the one game they were at full strength because Mark was back for that game. And then after playing us, both him and Colter went down and the team is just a lot more vanilla and easy to stop with those two speedsters to worry about.
Led to a scenario where they looked very good in scaring OSU...and then completely fell apart to make everyone look a bit weaker in comparison. -
believerAs of November 10:
1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Ohio State
4. Baylor
5. Stanford
6. Clemson
7. Auburn
8. Oregon
9. Missouri
10. Oklahoma State
11. Texas A&M
12. Fresno State
13. Michigan State
14. UCLA
15. Wisconsin
16. UCF
17. Louisville
18. LSU
19. Oklahoma
20. Northern Illinois
21. Arizona State
22. Texas
23. Minnesota
24. Nebraska
25. Miami FL -
ernest_t_bassMiami lost to an unranked team. That should hurt FSU, right?
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believer
Correct. And all will be right in THE Kumbaya land. :RpS_w00t:ernest_t_bass;1532976 wrote:Miami lost to an unranked team. That should hurt FSU, right?
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queencitybuckeyeMy first glimpse of Baylor was this week. They stink on ice.
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believer
After taking Oklahoma to the woodshed first.queencitybuckeye;1532982 wrote:My first glimpse of Baylor was this week. They stink on ice. -
vball10set
How 'bout those Bobcats?believer;1532979 wrote:Correct. And all will be right in THE Kumbaya land. :RpS_w00t: -
believer
You'll get no argument outta me.vball10set;1532986 wrote:How 'bout those Bobcats? -
GOONx191. Alabama
2. Georgia
3. Florida State
4. Ohio State
5. Baylor
6. Stanford
7. Clemson
8. Auburn
9. Missouri
10. Oregon -
vball10setbeliever;1532988 wrote:You'll get no argument outta me.
lol, btw, I like your top 10...looks pretty much spot on (beyond that it's a crapshoot) -
pmoney25Miami losing will hurt FSU but fact is Clemson still is ranked high and will be the win that carries them to NC game. Nothing OSU can do unless Alabama or FSU lose.
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rydawg51. Alabama
2. FSU
3. Ohio State
4. Baylor
5. Stanford - Utah is 4-5
6. Missouri
7. Auburn
8. Oregon
9. Michigan St
10. Clemson
11. Louisville
12. Oklahoma St
13. Texas A&M
14. UCLA
15. Wisconsin
16. South Carolina
17. UCF
18. ASU
19. Fresno
20. Northern Ill
21. LSU
22. Nebraska
23. Texas
24. Minnesota
25. USC -
Ironman921. Bama
2. FSU
3. OSU
4. Baylor
5. Stanford
6. Missouri
7. Auburn
8. Oregon -
like_thatFor OSU, it is too bad Mich St fucked the ND game up. If OSU/Mich st went into the B1G championship game without a loss, then I would assume that game would have been the semifinal game for the NC.
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Ironman92
Good pointlike_that;1533117 wrote:For OSU, it is too bad Mich St fucked the ND game up. If OSU/Mich st went into the B1G championship game without a loss, then I would assume that game would have been the semifinal game for the NC. -
slingshot4everStill wouldn't matter. Would still be 3rd unless Alabama or FSU loses.
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believerBCS standings as of November 11: http://espn.go.com/college-football/bcs
1. Alabama
2. Florida State
3. Ohio State
4. Stanford
5. Baylor -
believerAs of November 16:
1. Florida State
2. Alabama
3. Ohio State
4. Baylor
5. Oregon
6. Auburn
7. Clemson
8. Missouri
9. Texas A&M
10. Oklahoma State
11. Michigan State
12. South Carolina
13. Wisconsin
14. Fresno State
15. Stanford
16. UCLA
17. UCF
18. Louisville
19. Oklahoma
20. LSU
21. Arizona State
22. USC
23. Northern Illinois
24. Duke
25. Minnesota -
Ironman92
Looks mostly good....I'd switch Missouri and Auburnbeliever;1537140 wrote:As of November 16:
1. Florida State
2. Alabama
3. Ohio State
4. Baylor
5. Oregon
6. Auburn
7. Clemson
8. Missouri
9. Texas A&M
10. Oklahoma State
11. Michigan State
12. South Carolina
13. Wisconsin
14. Fresno State
15. Stanford
16. UCLA
17. UCF
18. Louisville
19. Oklahoma
20. LSU
21. Arizona State
22. USC
23. Northern Illinois
24. Duke
25. Minnesota -
rydawg51. Alabama
2. FSU
3. OSU
4. Baylor
5. Oregon
6. Missouri
7. Auburn
8. Michigan St
9. Clemson
10. Oklahoma St
11. Texas A&M
12. Wisconsin
13. South Carolina
14. Arizona St
15. Stanford -
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