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#1 Notre Dame def. USC, 22-13

  • mtp2013
    karen lotz;1328450 wrote:

    ESPN needs to fire Mark May. He's a toolshed.
  • karen lotz
    WebFire;1330215 wrote:What will they get in the future if they take an ACC bowl spot? I assume they have to share that with the conference?


    Not sure. If they share the money with the conference, then I'd assume the conference would have to share the rest of the bowl money with them. I don't think that's part of the deal.
  • karen lotz
    ernest_t_bass;1330221 wrote:That doesn't even make any sense, lotz. That has nothing to do with college football.

    Stupid questions get stupid answers.
  • ernest_t_bass
    karen lotz;1330279 wrote:Stupid questions get stupid answers.
    Oh?
  • WebFire
    karen lotz;1330278 wrote:Not sure. If they share the money with the conference, then I'd assume the conference would have to share the rest of the bowl money with them. I don't think that's part of the deal.
    But if they are taking an actual ACC football member's spot, how does that benefit anyone except Notre Dame? Certainly the ACC wasn't that dumb?
  • Mooney44Cards
    WebFire;1330353 wrote:But if they are taking an actual ACC football member's spot, how does that benefit anyone except Notre Dame? Certainly the ACC wasn't that dumb?
    The ACC is benefitting from the Notre Dame deal by making their games against Notre Dame on national television and increasing attendance at ACC home games against ND.

    There is absolutely no bowl arrangement outside the fact that ND is a candidate to be taken in bowls instead of the ACC which has already been a thing for years. The ACC doesn't have much of a choice but to agree to it.
  • Fly4Fun
    Mooney44Cards;1330393 wrote:The ACC is benefitting from the Notre Dame deal by making their games against Notre Dame on national television and increasing attendance at ACC home games against ND.

    There is absolutely no bowl arrangement outside the fact that ND is a candidate to be taken in bowls instead of the ACC which has already been a thing for years. The ACC doesn't have much of a choice but to agree to it.
    Could have said no?

    The one thing that I find interesting is that the conferences with preferential members appear to be those that have been falling apart the most (Big 12 with Texas - got raided by Pac-10, SEC and B1G; Big East with Notre Dame - completely wrecked).
  • WebFire
    Mooney44Cards;1330393 wrote:The ACC is benefitting from the Notre Dame deal by making their games against Notre Dame on national television and increasing attendance at ACC home games against ND.

    There is absolutely no bowl arrangement outside the fact that ND is a candidate to be taken in bowls instead of the ACC which has already been a thing for years. The ACC doesn't have much of a choice but to agree to it.
    What do you mean a thing for years?
  • Mooney44Cards
    WebFire;1330422 wrote:What do you mean a thing for years?
    Bowls that had arrangements with Notre Dame could have potentially taken Notre Dame instead of an ACC school.
  • sjmvsfscs08
    Fly4Fun;1330416 wrote:Could have said no?
    Why would they? They brought in Notre Dame for all sports and get five football games; and when Notre Dame has no choice but to join a conference, they basically guarenteed that the Irish will join the ACC instead of the Big Ten or Big 12. That is certainly a huge gain for them.

    They would have said no if it wasn't to their benefit. They didn't say no.

  • Fly4Fun
    sjmvsfscs08;1330446 wrote:Why would they? They brought in Notre Dame for all sports and get five football games; and when Notre Dame has no choice but to join a conference, they basically guarenteed that the Irish will join the ACC instead of the Big Ten or Big 12. That is certainly a huge gain for them.

    They would have said no if it wasn't to their benefit. They didn't say no.

    Not sure what the picture is of. And yes, it is reasonable that they could have come to the conclusion that it was in their (the ACC's) best interest to bring ND in. I am not privy to the numbers know would I have the experience to analyze it (assuming they do have that expertise). But I also see an interesting trend that I pointed out in my previous post.

    Just food for thought, that's all.