#1 UNC vs #13 Ohio University

• reclegend22

  

  sportchampps;1125909 wrote:Maybe not national champions but they should be a top 25 team their backcourt and d should be great. Their only senior never plays so they should have basically the same team of kellog cooper offutt baltic and hall back

  There's no chance for Cooper to try and leave is there? I'm not implying he's in any position to do so, just wondering. Crazier things have been done by less talented players. And Cooper is a really talented player.
• Jughead

  

  Mulva;1125907 wrote:That was bad offense. Really, really bad offense.

  Do you have any explanation to tell me why that has happened all year? Roughly 80% of top players for any given team that the Bobcats have played this year have had sub-par games. Coincidence? I doubt it.
• sportchampps

  i hope not but he did make a name for himself and the other ou player did a couple years ago i forget his name but the transfer from iu
• NilesPacMan

  So, I do have a question...
  
  I missed the game, and I'm kinda mad for it. How much did UNC miss Marshall?
• mhs95_06

  Footwedge;1125815 wrote:OU hits the and one at the end of regulation...and they most likely win the game. One lousy stinkin free throw from advancing.

  While the empty possession when OU was up 4 on the steal and near break-way deuce, that a great defensive play was made on, was the key play of the game, and that 6 point turn-around on one possession each way tremendously lowered OU's odds of winning, that FT with ~16 sec left was critical also.
  
  OU needed to get the win in regulation. But even if the FT was made, I wouldn't say it was most likely they would have won. Normally I figure a team behind by one with the ball as the clock is winding down is about a 50/50 shot to win the game(not most likely), but with the strong rebounding of NC, I would put it solidly in favor of NC to either make the original shot or get a put-back to win the game. The only thing contrary to that would be if OU makes the FT to take a one point lead, the pressure then on NC kind of makes the basket shrink up!
  
  So missing the FT takes OU's chances of winning from something near 50/50 to much, much nearer to zero whether the loss happens in regulation or OT!
• karen lotz

  

  NilesPacMan;1125932 wrote:So, I do have a question...
  
  I missed the game, and I'm kinda mad for it. How much did UNC miss Marshall?

  
  Um a lot. I think they had 25 turnovers or something?
• sportchampps

  yeah averages 11.7 on the season had 11 at halftime
• Mulva

  

  Jughead;1125920 wrote:Do you have any explanation to tell me why that has happened all year? Roughly 80% of top players for any given team that the Bobcats have played this year have had sub-par games. Coincidence? I doubt it.

  What's a more likely scenario -UNC, the #2 scoring team in the country, plays a shit offensive game because a lottery pick and possibly the best PG in the country is out injured.
  
  OR
  
  OU, who shuts down MAC opponents 80% of the time, locks down the #2 offense in the country and the lack of Marshall isn't an impact?
  
  Both teams played badly offensively. OU didn't shoot 32% because of Carolina's stifling defense either.
• sportchampps

  ou never shoots good
• ironman02

  Survive and advance. That's about the only positive thing I can say for Carolina tonight. They'll live to play another day.
  
  Great effort from OU. They didn't shoot it very well, and certainly didn't play their best game, but they competed and left it all on the court. The Bobcats should be very tough next season.
  
  Carolina got great games from Zeller, even though they stopped going to him offensively, and from Reggie Bullock. Without big plays from those two, and some key plays from Henson, Carolina is headed back to Chapel Hill. I was worried that the Heels would be lost offensively without Marshall running the show, and that's exactly what happened. White did a decent job (Watts did not), but it's obviously not the same as having Kendall out there. Carolina still should have been able to exploit their adavantages over the Bobcats without their PG, but they obviously didn't do a very good job of that.
  
  Once again, Carolina didn't finish a team off when they had the chance. Harrison Barnes was dreadful, even though he made some crucial plays down the stretch. If Marshall can't go on Sunday, the Heels have ZERO chance to beat Kansas unless Barnes plays the way he is capable of playing. Gonna take a great team effort in order to make it to New Orleans.
• Pick6

  

  Good effort by Ohio.
• Heretic

  

  Great effort by OU. But when you play a team like Carolina and they can't get the job done in regulation, you can't give them five more minutes. They did what they had to do in OT and Ohio couldn't answer. Still a great game and a great season...with the hope of another one coming up next year since everyone's returning.
• reclegend22

  

  I hope Groce doesn't follow the same path as Stan Heath and leave for "greener" pastures, because what he has in Athens cold be ******* emerald. Next year could be a Butler type of run with all of those kids returning. D.J. Cooper with another summer of work might just be one of the top 5 to 10 guards in the entire country. And Kellogg and Offutt could turn into robotic assassins from deep.
  
  I like the group as a whole and can admit that I was wrong about the MAC to a certain extent. At least with regard to Ohio. I will be paying attention now.
• dlazz

  reclegend22;1126138 wrote:I will be paying attention now.

  Regardless of who comes back, their conference doesn't prep them for tournament play. The MAC is still irrelevant, and so is Ohio.
• reclegend22

  

  dlazz;1126168 wrote:Regardless of who comes back, their conference doesn't prep them for tournament play. The MAC is still irrelevant, and so is Ohio.

  Still agree that the MAC is a shell of its former self. As Rick Pitino might say, Ron Harper isn't walking through that door.
  
  But Ohio has the guys to build around a potentially big run. It would definitely do the Bobcats good to schedule a few challenging away opponents, such as a rematch with Carolina in CH or at Kansas or Ohio State. If scheduling permits it, of course.
• dlazz

  reclegend22;1126179 wrote:Still agree that the MAC is a shell of its former self. As Rick Pitino might say, Ron Harper isn't walking through that door.
  
  But Ohio has the guys to build around a potentially big run. It would definitely do the Bobcats good to schedule a few challenging away opponents, such as a rematch with Carolina in CH or at Kansas or Ohio State. If scheduling permits it, of course.

  Scheduling is done years in advance, so that is going to be worthless for the guys already there.
  
  OU making it that far in the tourney was a fluke.
• Heretic

  

  dlazz;1126188 wrote:Scheduling is done years in advance, so that is going to be worthless for the guys already there.
  
  OU making it that far in the tourney was a fluke.

  LOLFAIL
• dlazz

  Truth hurts.
• reclegend22

  

  dlazz;1126188 wrote:Scheduling is done years in advance, so that is going to be worthless for the guys already there.
  
  OU making it that far in the tourney was a fluke.

  Much of scheduling is done in advance, but not all. Duke has been known to schedule mid-majors coming off successful seasons the year prior. After George Mason's run to the Final Four in 2006, the Blue Devils added them to the schedule the following fall.
  
  It happens. As I said, if scheduling permits.
• reclegend22

  

  To add to that point further, Duke and Butler scheduled a national championship "rematch" just last season. Ohio, if it works to do so, could pick up a game or two with a major school from one of the big conferences.
• Azubuike24

  

  dlazz;1126188 wrote:Scheduling is done years in advance, so that is going to be worthless for the guys already there.
  
  OU making it that far in the tourney was a fluke.

  This is untrue. Schedules in college basketball are largely put together in the spring/summer before the season.
  
  If OU wanted a gauntlet OOC schedule next year, they could get one.
• Azubuike24

  

  For instance, Kentucky has 5 games locked in for next year.
  
  vs Indiana
  at Louisville
  vs Duke (Georgia Dome)
  vs/at Syracuse (Big East-SEC Challenge, could still alter these for match-ups)
  vs Portland (last of a 3-game series)
  
  Depending if the SEC goes to an 18-game schedule, that would leave 8-10 out of conference games still yet to be finalized. It's probably very similar to OU, if not more, given that they aren't locked into TV contracts with the conference challenge, the Champions Classic (Duke, MSU, KU, UK 3-year series) and the 2 long-term rivalries (UL and IU). I'd venture to say OU doesn't have very many, if any games already under contract for next year.
• sportchampps

  Scheduling is done years in advance, so that is going to be worthless for the guys already there.
  
  OU making it that far in the tourney was a fluke.

  Nice try. Maybe you should look things up before you post them.
• SportsAndLady

  

  dlazz;1126202 wrote:Truth hurts.

  The LOLFAIL was 50% on "the scheduling is done years in advance" this isn't college football retard..you wrong as fuck
• Jughead

  

  Azubuike24;1126222 wrote: I'd venture to say OU doesn't have very many, if any games already under contract for next year.

  The only games that I know of...

  • a home return game from the Bracketbusters (2 years ago) against Winthrop *yay*
  • @ Robert Morris, the last of a 4 game series
  • I believe we have a home game against Marshall as well