College Basketball Random Chatter

• SportsAndLady

  

  killer_ewok;1096088 wrote:(example: Northern Iowa beating favorite Kansas a couple years back).

  [video=youtube;Aq1qOE9cayg][/video]
  
  lol
• SportsAndLady

  

  Laley23;1096106 wrote:I would think it validates only what most believe. Kentucky is a big favorite.

  I actually don't consider UK to be the big favorite. But I realize i'm one of the few and can understand the argument as to why they are.
  
  Just don't think running through (read: blowing out) the SEC schedule means you're playing better ball than others.
  
  When it comes down to it (the elite 8), UK will have the same risk of losing than any other team there (outside of maybe a cinderella team, whose pinnacle would be the E8).
• vball10set

  Laley23;1096106 wrote:I would think it validates only what most believe. Kentucky is a big favorite.

  Liked your other post better..too bad you took it down. And I am another one who doesn't think Kentucky is a clear cut favorite.
• Azubuike24

  

  Since Kentucky won it's last title in 1998, I'd say of the 12 national champions, only 4 have been THE clear favorite coming in. Anything can happen. I honestly felt the 2009-10 UK team would eventually overcome deficiencies and win by talent. They didn't make the Final Four. I thought last year after losing on the road to Arkansas and Ole Miss, that Kentucky could go out in the 2nd round. They made the Final Four. It's crazy.
• Laley23

  

  vball10set;1096260 wrote:Liked your other post better..too bad you took it down. And I am another one who doesn't think Kentucky is a clear cut favorite.

  Which post???
  
  Im not saying I think UK will even win. But when the odds come out, Im guessing they are the top spot by a bit.
• vball10set

  Laley23;1096284 wrote:Which post???
  
  Im not saying I think UK will even win. But when the odds come out, Im guessing they are the top spot by a bit.

  lol--sorry, wrong poster
• SportsAndLady

  

  Azubuike24;1096281 wrote:Since Kentucky won it's last title in 1998, I'd say of the 12 national champions, only 4 have been THE clear favorite coming in. Anything can happen. I honestly felt the 2009-10 UK team would eventually overcome deficiencies and win by talent. They didn't make the Final Four. I thought last year after losing on the road to Arkansas and Ole Miss, that Kentucky could go out in the 2nd round. They made the Final Four. It's crazy.

  Yeah, the favorite going into the tourney rarely actually wins the title. The tourney is such a crap shoot, it's stupid to choose a "favorite." Now, who is the best team going into the tourney? that's what I would go with..and this year it's gotta be Kentucky.
• Mulva

  

  Lundardi's update after last night has Xavier, Texas, Northwestern, St. Joe's as the last 4 in.
  
  First 4 out Colorado State, Miami, VCU, South Florida.
• Azubuike24

  

  Intersting that he has VCU out. When is the last time the CAA regular season champion missed the tournament?
• Crimson streak

  

  Usf up 1 with 3.2 sec to go
• Crimson streak

  

  Game over usf wins
• Azubuike24

  

  We can forget USF's resume. 11-7 (at worst) in the Big East puts them in.
  
  They have WVU next weekend, which is another huge game.
• Mulva

  

  South Florida shouldn't sniff the tournament. They only have 3 decent wins - Seton Hall, Cinci, and Cleveland State, and no great wins. 1-7 against the top 50, only 5 total top 100 wins, and 3 sub-100 losses.
• Azubuike24

  

  Miami beats FSU, which means they are at worst, 9-7 in the ACC. They did it without Reggie Johnson, who was declared ineligible.
  
  Oregon wins at Oregon State for their 20th win, and are now 11-5 in league play. While we all think the Pac 12 sucks, they have benefited from the top teams separating themselves from the bottom. Colorado also beat California earlier as well, putting them at 11-5 in the league as well.
  
  California, 23-7, 13-4 - 0 top 50 wins, 8 top 100 wins, 7 in the Pac 12 - at STAN
  Washington, 20-8, 13-3 - 2 top 50 wins (both over Arizona), 8 top 100 wins, 7 in the Pac 12 - at USC, at UCLA
  Arizona, 21-9, 12-5 - 1 top 50 win (over Washington), 6 top 100 wins, 5 in the Pac 12 - at ASU
  Oregon, 20-8, 11-5 - 1 top 50 win (over Arizona), 5 top 100 wins, 5 in the Pac 12- vs COL, vs UTAH
  Colorado, 19-9, 11-5 - 1 top 50 wins (over Arizona), 4 top 100 wins, 4 in the Pac 12 - at ORE, at OSU
  
  Like we know, nobody did ANYTHING out of conference. Therefore, I still only see 2-3 teams getting in. However, seeing that we might end up 5 teams getting 12+ conference wins, the Pac 12 Tournament might have some play-in games.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Why T-Rob should win NPOY:
  
  Against 8 ranked foes this season T-Rob has averaged 19.8 ppg, 12.3 rpg,55.6 FG%, 76.2 FT%, with 7 DDs and 4 20-pt games
  
  Davis (these are unofficial, taken off of ESPN's website):
  
  13.75 ppg 7.75 rpg 65.38 fg% 81.4 ft%, 1 DD, 0 20pt games
• GOONx19

  

  ^ I'll take the bait. Against those same teams:
  
  Blocks: Robinson - 0.75, Davis - 5
  Steals: Robinson - 0.63, Davis - 2.25
  Fouls (which, against post players likely lead to FTs): Robinson - 3.5, Davis - 2.25
  Turnovers: Robinson - 3.13, Davis - 1.75
  
  Kentucky has six players who average 9.8 ppg or better, so Davis is not looked to for scoring nearly as much as Robinson. Kansas only has two players above that mark.
  
  Also, you mentioned the FG%. People don't realize how big of a difference that is. Extrapolate the numbers out and Davis would be averaging 21.9 ppg if he attempted as many shots as T-Rob.
  
  Averages are fair, but not totals. The DDs and 20 point games shouldn't count because Robinson has twice as many games to draw from.
  
  Finally, whether it should factor in or not, UK's #1 ranking will help Davis.
• Azubuike24

  

  Just an interesting stat from Saturday. Robinson posted 28 and 12, while Davis posted 28, 11 and 6. However, Davis did it in 11 shots.
  
  For the season, that was his 4th game with 22+ points, 8+ rebounds and 6+ blocks. Only three other TOTAL GAMES by an individual has been accomplished this season in all of the NCAA.
• centralbucksfan

  SportsAndLady;1097277 wrote:Why T-Rob should win NPOY:
  
  Against 8 ranked foes this season T-Rob has averaged 19.8 ppg, 12.3 rpg,55.6 FG%, 76.2 FT%, with 7 DDs and 4 20-pt games
  
  Davis (these are unofficial, taken off of ESPN's website):
  
  13.75 ppg 7.75 rpg 65.38 fg% 81.4 ft%, 1 DD, 0 20pt games

  Stats don't tell the whole story. Davis has more talent, more balance offensively around him. He is not the focus offensively that Robinson is. Defensively, he is MUCH better. Its not just the block shots, but there is an intimidation factor where he deters teams from driving, or kicking shots out. Or, how many shots does he alter in a game?
  
  That being said, I really like Robinson. I think as far as POY, its very close. Davis might win it because UK is #1. But IMO, its a tossup.
• swamisez

  

  I am firmly in the Anthony Davis POY boat. The guy has been a game changer in every way, and even in the loss to Indiana his lack of presence was felt. Only getting 24 minutes due to foul trouble. If he stays on the floor Kentucky is still undefeated.
• vball10set

  not cbb, but prolly will be soon
  
  [video=youtube;Y4-CThQskBM][/video]
• SportsAndLady

  

  GOONx19;1097284 wrote:^ I'll take the bait. Against those same teams:
  
  Blocks: Robinson - 0.75, Davis - 5
  Steals: Robinson - 0.63, Davis - 2.25
  Fouls (which, against post players likely lead to FTs): Robinson - 3.5, Davis - 2.25
  Turnovers: Robinson - 3.13, Davis - 1.75
  
  Kentucky has six players who average 9.8 ppg or better, so Davis is not looked to for scoring nearly as much as Robinson. Kansas only has two players above that mark.
  
  Also, you mentioned the FG%. People don't realize how big of a difference that is. Extrapolate the numbers out and Davis would be averaging 21.9 ppg if he attempted as many shots as T-Rob.
  
  Averages are fair, but not totals. The DDs and 20 point games shouldn't count because Robinson has twice as many games to draw from.
  
  Finally, whether it should factor in or not, UK's #1 ranking will help Davis.

  Every argument for Davis is for his defense...which yeah he plays incredible defense. But that's DPOY stuff. I realize it counts for NPOY, but I laugh every time the argument is brought up UK fans will say "yeah but Davis has more blocks..less fouls..less turnovers" okay? So use that in DPOY convo, not NPOY.
  
  Who cares that Robinson shoots more than Davis? Robinson's going to be penalized in the voting because he's the main guy on his team, and Davis is one of 6 players who score double digits? lol stupidest argument ever, imo.
  
  The DDs and 20 point games should count because that tells you a) how many tough teams Robinson has gone up against and b) in those games, he's an absolute beast. He plays his best games against ranked opponents, what a NPOY does.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Maybe we should start a recruiting thread, but there is some life (there was zero before) to Shabazz to KU after he was in for a visit during the mizzou game
  
  http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/02/27/shabazzs-dad-kansas-has-a-real-shot/
  
  Granted, it's still very, very unlikely that happens...
• Laley23

  

  SportsAndLady;1097846 wrote:Maybe we should start a recruiting thread, but there is some life (there was zero before) to Shabazz to KU after he was in for a visit during the mizzou game
  
  http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/02/27/shabazzs-dad-kansas-has-a-real-shot/
  
  Granted, it's still very, very unlikely that happens...

  Ive been thinking about that for awhile. We should.
  
  Of course, someone will get mad cause its HSers on the CBK board. But whatever.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Laley23;1097866 wrote:Ive been thinking about that for awhile. We should.
  
  Of course, someone will get mad cause its HSers on the CBK board. But whatever.

  6'8 gigantors who can jump over me is completely different than talking about pickerington south vs north or however fucking high school basketball talk goes haha
  
  I'll get it started
• chicago510

  

  SportsAndLady;1097871 wrote:6'8 gigantors who can jump over me is completely different than talking about pickerington south vs north or however fucking high school basketball talk goes haha
  
  I'll get it started

  This. Even though OSU has no commits for 2012 even though we COULD have 3 Schollies open.