Michigan State def. Ohio State, 10-7
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stroups
Did you expect anything else from bollman? They guy is a joke who should of been fired a long time ago. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Howard was abused, and abused bad, by Cunningham.Pick6;919324 wrote:we scored with him didnt we?
and Im tired of everyone hating on Howard. It looked like he got beat alot of the times because we played damn zone coverage almost all day where he had flats and was trying to catch up for the safety not getting over to his deep half. He did get beat a few times..the touchdown catch (which was still good coverage) and a few other. Cunningham is a real good receiver. -
centralbucksfanHate to say it, but my prediction of a 4 loss season might not happen. This team is now looking at 5, possibly 6 losses. They just aren't very good, and young at key positions. People can get on the coaches all they want (and rightfully so), but Fickell was put into a no win situation. I and others have been saying for years that Jim Bollman is a worthless line and offensive coordinator. And he is in fact that. With the talent on the offensive line, and yes there is talent there, this scheme is just bad, always has been. Rarely do we see them knock people off the line of scrimmage (zone blocking!) and pass protection is absolutely pitiful.
I hope they clean house at seasons end, completely. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
It was VERY close, but from the one camera angle, it looked like it was an ok block. Very questionable to say the least, so in those types of cases, you let the kids play.slingshot4ever;919336 wrote: I couldn't tell definitively from my seats, but was that a block in the back on the o-line when Cousins threw the TD? -
centralbucksfan
It wasn't that close. It was legal. YOu can block behind the back as long as you are within the tackles. Replay showed he was within the tackles easily. Officiating had nothing to do with the outcome. But I thought they sucked. I thought OSU got hit late at least twice on out of bounds plays, no call. Then OSU gets flagged for at least one that as very questionable. Also missed some blatent holding(take downs) on MSU line. Oh well...wouldn't have mattered anyway!Scarlet_Buckeye;920650 wrote:It was VERY close, but from the one camera angle, it looked like it was an ok block. Very questionable to say the least, so in those types of cases, you let the kids play. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
This.ytownfootball;919393 wrote:our staff has no effin idea how to best utilize their abilities, period.
One need not look any further than Jake Stoneburner not being on the field for almost every play / using him to block in the backfield instead of using him as a primary target down field.
I'm convinced Bollman is ra-tard. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Reps.Mulva;919407 wrote:Ohio State has the worst passing offense in the B1G, and arguably the worst passing game of ANY BCS school (Vandy and Kansas State may have arguments). They average the least total yards in the B1G (yep, less than Minnesota). They were sacked 9 times yesterday. The leading receiver (Stoneburner) has 10 catches through 5 games. They were 10 seconds away from being shut out for the 1st time since 1993. They've been held under 7 points twice in 5 games.
Not being able to expect to contend for the B1G title has absolutely nothing to do with looking like you've played offense before. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
This.Writerbuckeye;919739 wrote:It's been beyond unforgivable how the offensive play calling has not changed despite what the defenses are doing. The play calling has been predictable...so predictable that MSU was regularly jumping the snap counts and guessing correctly. And still not adjustments were made.
I blame a decent amount of this on Miller as well. Coaches shouldn't have to tell you to change up your snap count when a team is jumping it as well as MSU was on Saturday. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
?????Dr Winston O'Boogie;920066 wrote:People who boo their own team are losers. Unfortunately there are a lot of them at Ohio State. If they held themselves to the same standard they have for the Buckeyes, the world would be a better place.
#Dumb. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
That isn't a big surprise. Have you seen him "operating" that offense? It's atrocious. Even for a freshman. And it's really not hard to imagine when you consider how "out-of-touch/tuned" he is when on the sidelines. Get involved with the coaches... go thru the screenprints... breakdown what's happening out there... do something... ANYTHING!LJ;920119 wrote:Rumor is that Braxton's level of understanding is about like your average 6 yr old trying to do quantum physics (I guess that would be the nicest way to put it).
You see Miller on the sidelines and he just looks lost.
I know it's early, and I know Miller is young, but boy is he looking more like a bust than a star. I think he'll get it all figured out and be fine in the coming years, but boy he better start showing some improvements because otherwise this is going to be a looooooong 4 years. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Bollman is probably the #1 reason so far for the Buckeyes ineptness.se-alum;920566 wrote:What a pathetic display of play calling by Bollman. Miller didn't have a chance. Run, Run, Pass against a D'antonio defense isn't going to work, EVER. Two or 3 screen passes against a blitzing team will slow the defense down, but evidently the play isn't on the sheet. Sadly, Bauserman gives this team the best chance to win right now, as slim as that chance might be.
I'm really happy with the defense. John Simon is unblockable! Howard got beat for the TD, but that's a long time to have to cover someone, and the throw was absolutely perfect. The young defense is playing very well.
My heart really goes out to John Simon. The kid played his heart out. He was a MONSTER on almost every single play. It pains me to watch this kid go out there and leave it all on the field, and put in a performance like the one he did on Saturday, and then not win the game. There is no reason why someone who has THAT DOMINANT of a performance should not be on the winning side of the game. You don't just see people dominate like that and end up on the losing side. Performances like that almost always bring home 'W'. And Saturdays would have if it wasn't for the pathetic-ness of our OSU offense. -
se-alum
I knew it wouldn't take long for the Miller bashing to commence. His OC is doing him no favors, he's being put into a position to fail. -
LJ
Because he doesn't understand anything more than he has been given!!!se-alum;920672 wrote:I knew it wouldn't take long for the Miller bashing to commence. His OC is doing him no favors, he's being put into a position to fail.
And I am not blaming Miller, I have been saying all along that I didn't think he was the answer -
se-alum
I don't think he's the answer either, especially if they aren't going to give him a gameplan to help him out. Football 101 tells you that the screen game will slow down the blitzing, yet we try none of it? Youth and bad coaching is a bad combination. Bauserman gives us the best chance if this is the kind of offense we're going to play. I would be fine with Miller if they built a gameplan around his ability.LJ;920675 wrote:Because he doesn't understand anything more than he has been given!!!
And I am not blaming Miller, I have been saying all along that I didn't think he was the answer -
LJ
What I am hearing is that what he does, is everything he can handle. They can't do anything else, because Miller is having a hard time understanding and running those types of playsse-alum;920686 wrote:I don't think he's the answer either, especially if they aren't going to give him a gameplan to help him out. Football 101 tells you that the screen game will slow down the blitzing, yet we try none of it? Youth and bad coaching is a bad combination. Bauserman gives us the best chance if this is the kind of offense we're going to play. I would be fine with Miller if they built a gameplan around his ability. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Not quite sure what you are smoking, but pretty sure you are not allowed to block someone in their back no matter where you are on the field. I'll need to see an official ruling on this one to believe it.centralbucksfan;920653 wrote:It wasn't that close. It was legal. YOu can block behind the back as long as you are within the tackles. -
se-alum
Well, if he can't throw a screen pass, he'll never be a successful college QB. Screens are easy for QB's, the offense line has the toughest part of a screen play.LJ;920694 wrote:What I am hearing is that what he does, is everything he can handle. They can't do anything else, because Miller is having a hard time understanding and running those types of plays -
LJ
There is a lot of timing for the QB too. You know why the screen pass goes incomplete? Because the QB threw it too soon. You know why it was blown up? Because the QB threw it too late.se-alum;920713 wrote:Well, if he can't throw a screen pass, he'll never be a successful college QB. Screens are easy for QB's, the offense line has the toughest part of a screen play. -
karen lotz
Scarlet_Buckeye;920696 wrote:Not quite sure what you are smoking, but pretty sure you are not allowed to block someone in their back no matter where you are on the field. I'll need to see an official ruling on this one to believe it.
PENALTY—10 yards (Exception: Penalties for Team A fouls behind the
neutral zone are enforced from the previous spot. Safety if the
foul occurs behind Team A’s goal line) [S42].
c. A block in the back (other than against the ball carrier) is illegal (A.R. 9-3-
3-I and VII; and A.R. 10-2-2-XII).
Exceptions:
1. Offensive players who are on the line of scrimmage at the snap within
the blocking zone (Rule 2-3-6) may legally block in the back in the
blocking zone, subject to the following restrictions:
(a) A player on the line of scrimmage within this blocking zone may not
leave the zone and return and legally block in the back.
(b) The blocking zone disintegrates when the ball leaves the zone -
se-alum
Sure there is some timing, but it's much easier than going through multiple reads against a blitzing defense.LJ;920717 wrote:There is a lot of timing for the QB too. You know why the screen pass goes incomplete? Because the QB threw it too soon. You know why it was blown up? Because the QB threw it too late. -
Scarlet_Buckeye
I stand corrected. I am utterly SHOCKED that the NCAA allows blocking in the back in ANY situation/case/scenario. That just spells INJURY waiting to occur. Shocked.karen lotz;920720 wrote:PENALTY—10 yards (Exception: Penalties for Team A fouls behind the
neutral zone are enforced from the previous spot. Safety if the
foul occurs behind Team A’s goal line) [S42].
c. A block in the back (other than against the ball carrier) is illegal (A.R. 9-3-
3-I and VII; and A.R. 10-2-2-XII).
Exceptions:
1. Offensive players who are on the line of scrimmage at the snap within
the blocking zone (Rule 2-3-6) may legally block in the back in the
blocking zone, subject to the following restrictions:
(a) A player on the line of scrimmage within this blocking zone may not
leave the zone and return and legally block in the back.
(b) The blocking zone disintegrates when the ball leaves the zone -
Scarlet_Buckeye
Saturday was the worst I have ever seen Ohio State play since I've started devoutly watching them in 1998. Our offense is putrid. I think our biggest problem/concern is coaching. Luke Fickell is simply in over his shoulders. He has no idea what he's doing out there, and he is not ready to lead a college football team, much less a powerhouse program like Ohio State. The best thing that can happen (at the end of this season) is to let Fickell go and bring in someone like Urban Meyer, Bob Stoops, Bo Pelini, or John Gruden. We NEED one of those four guys. Period.
In letting Fickell go, that means that Jim Bollman will finally be let go too. Bollman is our offensive coordinator and I've always thought he's done an awful job. After watching last Saturday, I'm convinced that he's mentally handicapped. His offensive play calling has to be the worst in the country by far. I cannot tell you how many years Bollman has skated by just because of our staunch defenses. This year, again, we have a staunch defense, it's just that we don't have an offense this year AT ALL. Therefore, the wholes in his play calling are much more visible.
After coaching, the 2nd biggest problem is... like I've said before... we don't have a quarterback. Sr Joe Bauserman is simply not athletic enough to make a play out there, and Fr. Braxton Miller is simply not ready for college ball. These two guys look like dumb & dumber out there. Which makes me wonder... just how bad must Taylor Graham and Kenny Guiton be if they can't even sniff a minute of playing time. Bauserman throws a lame duck and Miller has happy feet.
The 3rd biggest problem for the Buckeyes has been the absence of the tattoo 5. I don't care who you are, but when you're missing your HEAD COACH (Tressel) , STARTING QB (Pryor), STARTING LT (Mike Adams), STARTING RB (Dan Herron), #1 WR (DeVier Posey), and a key member of your defense (Solomon Thomas), you're not going to be very good. Still, that shouldn't justify just how anemic our offense has been. This is OHIO STATE... we should have enough depth for people to come in and make some plays. I'm not saying we should be winning this games (because again... look at all the people we are missing at KEY positions), but we should be able to at least move the ball down the field for a drive or two. On Saturday... we couldn't do that.
Right now... the Buckeyes are sitting 3-2. I have them finishing 7-5, perhaps even 6-6 (losses to Nebraska, Wisconsin, Michigan, and perhaps Purdue/PSU).
I feel like we're Notre Dame
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Automatik
I've said it after the Miami game and my friends didn't want to hear it. I said I felt an "ND slide" coming. It wasn't because we lost that Miami game, it was how we lost. I can handle losses, but not bad football and thats what it was....BAD football from top to bottom. It was even more apparent on Saturday.Scarlet_Buckeye;920840 wrote: I feel like we're Notre Dame.
I'll ride this season out with a "wait and see" attitude, because we do have the deck stacked against us, but we BETTER MAKE A FUCKING MOVE in the off season. I want a major shake up...clean house. They can keep Vrabel and send everyone else packing....INCLUDING Gene Smith. -
ytownfootball
Gene Smith needs to be the first to go, along with the rest of 'em. Your job as athletic director is to prevent this stuff from occurring first and foremost, minimize the damage should it occur, and polish the turd.
He's failed on ALL accounts. -
Dr Winston O'Boogie
Why am I dumb in your estimation? Don't get me wrong, watching the team lose a game like that is hard. But for my entire Buckeye fan career, the only thing I have absolutely despised are people who sit in that stadium and boo the home team. It's a frickin' college football team. I've never liked it. And I can see a lot of it coming in a year like this. I'm not saying Ohio State is the only placethis happens, but it has been my experience that the numbskull population in the Horseshoe is higher than at many other schools.Scarlet_Buckeye;920662 wrote:?????
#Dumb.