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Syracuse and Pittsburgh to the ACC??

  • trep14
    I don't really see the B1G expanding unless they can get Notre Dame.
  • karen lotz
    Iliketurtles;902988 wrote:Link?? I thought Kansas had no chance at going to a conference like the B1G because they aren't a football school powerhouse and no one cares about basketball since basketball doesn't matter at all in the realignment of teams and conferences!

    Kansas isn't joining the Big Ten
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    trep14;902990 wrote:I don't really see the B1G expanding unless they can get Notre Dame.
    and Texas.

    Those pleading for 4 16-team conferences are just wishing for symmetry. Notre Dame, Texas, and if one of the two comes Missouri is the only expansion. Anything else is diluting the conference, and the Big 10 doesn't need to dilute.
  • jordo212000
    Iliketurtles;902988 wrote:Link?? I thought Kansas had no chance at going to a conference like the B1G because they aren't a football school powerhouse and no one cares about basketball since basketball doesn't matter at all in the realignment of teams and conferences!
    Oh boy here we go again
  • Iliketurtles
    karen lotz;902998 wrote:Kansas isn't joining the Big Ten
    I know it was a joke.
  • SportsAndLady
    karen lotz;902998 wrote:Kansas isn't joining the Big Ten
    Are you saying Kansas won't go to the Big 10 or the Big 10 won't admit Kansas?
  • vball10set
    S&L, what's the word around Rutgers about the possibilty of applying for admission to the B1G? is there any??
  • karen lotz
    SportsAndLady;903072 wrote:Are you saying Kansas won't go to the Big 10 or the Big 10 won't admit Kansas?

    I'm saying Kansas will not be in the Big Ten.
  • SportsAndLady
    vball10set;903108 wrote:S&L, what's the word around Rutgers about the possibilty of applying for admission to the B1G? is there any??
    No comment lol
  • vball10set
    SportsAndLady;903166 wrote:No comment lol
    plausible deniability...well played!!!
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    The Big 10 doesn't need to expand. Period. They have the schools they want and the revenue they want. Adding schools that don't add to the bottom line isn't their plan. They have 12 teams, they have a championship game, they have what they want. As I mentioned above, some people want a perfect symmetry in the conferences, but the Big 10 has no pressure at all to expand.
  • j_crazy
    I'm hearing if the acc works out a good deal UND will be #15. Twitter but still.
  • bigkahuna
    I would actually be alright with this if the B1G just sat back and said piss off to everyone else. We have what we want, so why mess with it?
  • Little Danny
    Manhattan Buckeye;903740 wrote:The Big 10 doesn't need to expand. Period. They have the schools they want and the revenue they want. Adding schools that don't add to the bottom line isn't their plan. They have 12 teams, they have a championship game, they have what they want. As I mentioned above, some people want a perfect symmetry in the conferences, but the Big 10 has no pressure at all to expand.
    This.... the only thing that would change this decision would be if ND suddenly came knocking at the door with suitcase in tow.

    Just because one conference moves to 14/16 games doesn't mean everyone else has to do it.
  • wildcats20
    Little Danny;903819 wrote:This.... the only thing that would change this decision would be if ND suddenly came knocking at the door with suitcase in tow.

    Just because one conference moves to 14/16 games doesn't mean everyone else has to do it.
    Teams?

    And while I agree, I think we will see the 4, 16 team conferences in the next year or 2(max). I don't like it all that much, but I think it is inevitable.
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Then who is the Big 10 taking? Notre Dame and Texas possibly.

    Who is going to force the Big 10 to take 16 teams? Answer: no one.
  • wildcats20
    Manhattan Buckeye;903927 wrote:Then who is the Big 10 taking? Notre Dame and Texas possibly.

    Who is going to force the Big 10 to take 16 teams? Answer: no one.
    Couldn't the same be said for the league expanding to 12 teams?
  • karen lotz
    wildcats20;903930 wrote:Couldn't the same be said for the league expanding to 12 teams?
    gotta have 12 to have a title game.
  • wildcats20
    karen lotz;903932 wrote:gotta have 12 to have a title game.
    Yes, I know. But a title game doesn't mean anything. The Big 10 had an auto berth to a BCS game regardless. It wasn't going to go away just because they might have stayed at 11.

    In other words, the Big 10 added a 12th team so they could "keep up with the Jones'," so to speak. If the other conferences go to 16, so will the Big 10.
  • karen lotz
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
  • wildcats20
    karen lotz;903941 wrote:$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    And so does 16 teams.
  • karen lotz
    wildcats20;903943 wrote:And so does 16 teams.

    Not necessarily. Splitting the pie 16 ways will make it less profitable on a school by school basis than 12. Unless the Big Ten adds Texas, Notre Dame, USC, and Alabama, they aren't going to bring in enough to make it worth it.
  • krambman
    wildcats20;903936 wrote:Yes, I know. But a title game doesn't mean anything. The Big 10 had an auto berth to a BCS game regardless. It wasn't going to go away just because they might have stayed at 11.

    In other words, the Big 10 added a 12th team so they could "keep up with the Jones'," so to speak. If the other conferences go to 16, so will the Big 10.
    That title game means a reported $20-25 million for the conference EACH YEAR from Fox for television the game. That's nearly $2 million per school every year. That's why they added a 12 team to add a championship game. That's revenue they wouldn't have been able to get any other way. They were able to add a team to the conference AND increase revenue for all 12 schools involved. That's impressive. They didn't to keep up with the Jones's, they are the Jones's.

    The NY Times ran an article today about the geography of college football. It said that Ohio State is the most popular team in college football, followed by Michigan and Penn State. In fact 7 of the 12 teams in the B1G were in the top 20 in terms of popularity. That is why the B1G is the highest revenue generating conference in the country. They will only add teams if they increase that revenue for everyone. That means good programs with lots of fans in big TV markets (like Notre Dame and Texas). Unless a team would be in the top half of the B1G in terms of popularity or would get the BTN on TV in a big market (like Rutgers or maybe Missouri), then the B1G isn't going to be interested, because they don't want to divide the same revenue among more teams.
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    wildcats20;903936 wrote:Yes, I know. But a title game doesn't mean anything. The Big 10 had an auto berth to a BCS game regardless. It wasn't going to go away just because they might have stayed at 11.

    In other words, the Big 10 added a 12th team so they could "keep up with the Jones'," so to speak. If the other conferences go to 16, so will the Big 10.
    I wouldn't put it that way, the last two teams the Big 10 admitted were Penn St. and Nebraska. I'll repeat that. Penn St. and Nebraska.

    The Big 10 won't grow just to grow. They might admit Missouri, possibly Kansas (I doubt the latter), they aren't expanding further unless there is a shamrock or longhorn involved.
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    No offense wildcats20, but you just got pwned.