Texas A&M just joined the SEC...well maybe

• enigmaax

  ts1227;887729 wrote:Yeah, the original letter sent on Sept. 2 basically just meant that Beebe will not sue on behalf of the conference. It had no bearing on the individual schools, as it is up to their respective boards of Regents/Trustees.

  That isn't the way they stated it. They lied, plain and simple, and they did it to fuck with Texas A&M.
  

  it is in the best interests of each of our conferences and our member institutions of higher education to waive any and all legal actions by either conference and its members resulting from admission of Texas A&M into the SEC

• sleeper

  

  enigmaax;887728 wrote:Well, zero until ND or Texas wins one as an actual member of the conference.

  Sorry, doesn't work like that. Enjoy being 2nd best.
• enigmaax

  sleeper;887760 wrote:Sorry, doesn't work like that. Enjoy being 2nd best.

  Oh, so Texas becomes the 2005 Big Ten champion when they join, right? Damn, its crazy how those Buckeyes keep finding ways to abandon conference championships.
• ts1227

  

  Don't feed the troll, enigmaax
• sleeper

  

  enigmaax;887768 wrote:Oh, so Texas becomes the 2005 Big Ten champion when they join, right? Damn, its crazy how those Buckeyes keep finding ways to abandon conference championships.

  Let's phrase it this way.
  
  Say I took the top 12 all time teams in National Titles and put them all in the same conference. You'd still have SEC fans claiming they are the best conference because they won 5 in a row. Like I said, enjoy your terrible academic conference and being at best the second best conference.
• enigmaax

  ts1227;887782 wrote:Don't feed the troll, enigmaax

  Lol. Harmless amusement.
  

  sleeper;887783 wrote:Let's phrase it this way.
  
  Say I took the top 12 all time teams in National Titles and put them all in the same conference. You'd still have SEC fans claiming they are the best conference because they won 5 in a row. Like I said, enjoy your terrible academic conference and being at best the second best conference.

  Come on, stay on topic. We're not talking about quiz bowls. You always pull out the academic stuff when you get desperate. We are talking about college football here.
  
  In your scenario, I would gladly take the match-up (SEC keeps their own schools) against the following:
  
  Princeton
  Yale
  Michigan
  Notre Dame
  USC
  Pitt
  Harvard
  Ohio State
  Oklahoma
  Penn
  Michigan State
  Minnesota
  
  Heck, you could even throw in California and Cornell if you wanted to account for the upcoming expansion.
• sleeper

  

  enigmaax;887795 wrote:Lol. Harmless amusement.
  
  
  
  Come on, stay on topic. We're not talking about quiz bowls. You always pull out the academic stuff when you get desperate. We are talking about college football here.
  
  In your scenario, I would gladly take the match-up (SEC keeps their own schools) against the following:
  
  Princeton
  Yale
  Michigan
  Notre Dame
  USC
  Pitt
  Harvard
  Ohio State
  Oklahoma
  Penn
  Michigan State
  Minnesota
  
  Heck, you could even throw in California and Cornell if you wanted to account for the upcoming expansion.

  Yeah let's include D2 schools in the argument. Harvard, Yale, Penn, etc. are not FBS schools. Keep spinning.
• jordo212000

  

  I wonder if sleeper ever gets tired of staying in character?
• trep14

  There's no point in arguing with sleeper. It's still the 1900's according to him.
  
  The Texas/ND thing is intriguing but I doubt it could happen. What would happen with the Longhorn Network? I thought ESPN and Texas got married for like 20 years for that thing and ESPN made a $300 million dollar investment in it, I can't see them letting it go to waste or becoming BTN2 or anything like that. Although its interesting to note that the Longhorn Network still isn't close to being picked up by any of the major cable/dish companies in Texas.
• vball10set

  lol--sleeper, you're good...real good :thumbup:
• vball10set

  atta' boy, sleeper, keep reelin' 'em in
  
  
• ts1227

  

  Oklahoma State also said they won't sue.
  Baylor, Kansas, and Iowa State have said that they have not waived their rights
  Kansas State and Mizzou won't answer the question.
• jordo212000

  

  Big East is reaching out to the little guys in the Big 12 about joining the conference
• SportsAndLady

  

  jordo212000;887857 wrote:Big East is reaching out to the little guys in the Big 12 about joining the conference

  What do you think will happen in basketball? Kick Seton Hall, Providence out to make room? Or just have an 18-20 team conference in basketball?
• Mulva

  

  SportsAndLady;887894 wrote:What do you think will happen in basketball? Kick Seton Hall, Providence out to make room? Or just have an 18-20 team conference in basketball?

  18 seems possible, but really bloated. 20 is just unfeasible.
  
  Maybe the non-Big East football schools (Notre Dame, Marquette, St. John's, Georgetown, Nova, Seton Hall, Providence, and DePaul) could attract a few other schools and form their own basketball conference. The A-10 has 14 teams, maybe go after Xavier, Richmond, and Temple or something. Could be a nasty basketball conference.
  
  I'm sure the Big East would never let that happen though.
• ts1227

  

  Big East is talking 20 Basketball/12 Football if it happened.
• jordo212000

  

  SportsAndLady;887894 wrote:What do you think will happen in basketball? Kick Seton Hall, Providence out to make room? Or just have an 18-20 team conference in basketball?

  
  Id kick out Seton Hall, Providence, and most of the other basketball only schools
• jordo212000

  

  I wouldn't kick out Gtown or Nova. Just the ones who don't play football and suck at basketball
• enigmaax

  sleeper;887801 wrote:Yeah let's include D2 schools in the argument. Harvard, Yale, Penn, etc. are not FBS schools. Keep spinning.
  
  Say I took the top 12 all time teams in National Titles

  Why do you always change the rules when you're losing? It isn't my fault that by your historical standards the FCS has more FBS national titles than the FBS. Do we just act like those years never happened (like last year's OSU season)?
• enigmaax

  ts1227;887918 wrote:Big East is talking 20 Basketball/12 Football if it happened.

  If TCU gives them 9 teams next year, are they planning on losing teams and replacing them with the Big XII leftovers or are they just taking a select few. Baylor thinks it has an invite to the BE and I'd assume Kansas and Kansas State would be part of the deal. Iowa State and Missouri got anything going on? Heck, if Texas doesn't go west, would Texas Tech also be looking?
  
  http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/news;_ylt=AkIpW0sFZrfTWBKBi9NJn3ccvrYF?slug=jn-king_baylor_plan_b_big_east_090811
• cats gone wild

  jordo212000;887829 wrote:I wonder if sleeper ever gets tired of staying in character?

  Thats funny stuff there.
• krambman

  

  Mulva;887906 wrote:18 seems possible, but really bloated. 20 is just unfeasible.
  
  Maybe the non-Big East football schools (Notre Dame, Marquette, St. John's, Georgetown, Nova, Seton Hall, Providence, and DePaul) could attract a few other schools and form their own basketball conference. The A-10 has 14 teams, maybe go after Xavier, Richmond, and Temple or something. Could be a nasty basketball conference.
  
  I'm sure the Big East would never let that happen though.

  Seton Hall, Providence, and Marquette would be the most likely to get the boot in my opinion. Notre Dame is Notre Dame, St. Johns is in New York and plays at MSG (no way they would be kicked out), Georgetown has history and is still a top program and they are in DC. Nova is in Philadelphia and are considering the jump to D-1A in football. DePaul, while crappy in basketball right now, is still in Chicago which helps the other programs recruit in that area.
• Little Danny

  

  krambman;888196 wrote:Seton Hall, Providence, and Marquette would be the most likely to get the boot in my opinion. Notre Dame is Notre Dame, St. Johns is in New York and plays at MSG (no way they would be kicked out), Georgetown has history and is still a top program and they are in DC. Nova is in Philadelphia and are considering the jump to D-1A in football. DePaul, while crappy in basketball right now, is still in Chicago which helps the other programs recruit in that area.

  Providence is untouchable. The Big East headquarters is located there, the commissioner came from Providence (so did the previous commissioner) and most of the staff at HQ is compromised of people who came from Providence. On the Big East boards we refer to the Big East leadership as the "Providence Mafia" because of the strangle hold they have over the conference (while not really adding thing back to it).
  
  Seton Hall, Depaul and Marquette would get the axe. Depaul is located in Chicago but it really does not bring the Chicago market. In addition, none of the Big East schools really recruit in Chi-town. There is plenty of talent on the east coast (down to Florida) and in Ohio, Michigan and Indiana to pick from.
• SportsAndLady

  

  
• the_system

  SportsAndLady;889544 wrote:

  
  
  With that picture in mind, what does everyone think about Texas joining the Big Ten? There is a guy on the Northwestern Rivals board who has some scary accurate predictions in the past when Nebraska joined. He's saying Texas and ND officials have already approached the Big Ten with a list of things they would like to keep and might possibly join. I don't mind the ND thing, but the Texas thing worries me.
  
  Granted, the Big 12 commissioner is a pu$$y and lets texas walk on the Big 12...and Delaney is no pu$$y. I still hate the idea of Texas and their arrogant 'Don't mess with Texas', always getting politicians involved, bull$hit.