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  • ytownfootball
    The latter. It is all so irrelevant anyway. Lol
  • enigmaax
    ytownfootball;586895 wrote:What the fuck part of T. Pryor being the best OSU QB so far are you having trouble with? Are we going to dissect the number of offensive plays next? the number of quarters it took him to break those records? LolllLOL get. the. fuck. out.

    Does him being the best OSU somehow get you butthurt? Or is it that he's 3-0 against you? I don't see your issue.

    and for the record, I'm hardly a TP fan, I just know results when I see 'em

    Not my work but it will do...

    *Career
    First
    210.7 yards/game of total offense, 1st (26.3 yards/game more than Schlichter in 2nd at 184.4)
    21 games with 200-plus yards of total offense, 1st (Smith 2nd at 19)
    6 games with 300-plus yards of total offense, tied for 1st with Germaine
    6 100-yard rushing games (first all-time among QBs, ahead of Greene’s 4)
    *Second
    8,005 yards of total offense, 2nd (only 845 yards behind Schlichter) - PROJECTED FIRST
    72 TDs responsible for (55 passing, 17 rushing), 2nd (13 behind Schlichter at 85) - PROJECTED FIRST
    *Third **
    463 completions, 3rd (34 behind Schlichter and 35 behind Hoying) - PROJECTED FIRST
    55 TD passes, 3rd (Hoying 57 and Germaine 56; Smith 54) - PROJECTED FIRST
    61.1 completion percentage, 3rd (Todd Boeckman 63.4 and Troy Smith 62.7; Joe Germaine 59.2)
    144.2 QB rating, 3rd (Smith 157.1 and Germaine 151.0; Hoying 142.6)
    *Fourth
    156.7 passing yards/game, 4th (Schlichter 157.2 in 3rd, Hoying 160.7 in 2nd and Germaine at 172.2 in 1st) – COULD PROJECT TO FIRST
    *Fifth
    5,956 passing yards, 5th (360 behind Greg Frey, 414 behind Joe Germaine, 1,276 behind Bobby Hoying and 1,591 behind Art Schlichter. Troy Smith is 6th) - PROJECTED FIRST
    758 pass attempts, 5th (1 behind Steve Bellisari, 77 behind Frey, 100 behind Hoying and 193 behind Schlichter) – PROJECTED FIRST *
    *Sixth
    12 games with 200-plus yards passing, tied for 6th with Schlichter (just 1 behind 3rd, 2 out of second Bellisari and 4 out of first Hoying) – PROJECTED FIRST
    26 INTs, tied for 6th (Schlichter 46, Frey 39, Tomczak 36, Hoying 35)
    ** Ranks 21st all-time on the OSU career rushing list with 2,049 yards on 421 carries (4.9 yards per carry). Cornelius Greene sits 20th all-time at 2,066, just 17 yards ahead of Pryor. Trails Raymont Harris by exactly 600 yards for 10th all-time. Trails Antonio Pittman by 896 yards for 9th all-time. Is averaging 683 rushing yards over his three years with one game remaining and has 17 rushing TDs
    *30-4 record as a starter (88% winning percentage)
    3 Big 10 titles
    3 victories over Michigan
    Third OSU QB to beat Michigan 3 times (Tippy Dye and Troy Smith)
    Rose Bowl victory and 1-1 in bowl games
    3 BCS Bowls
    *Single-Season
    First
    65.8 completion percentage, 1st (Troy Smith 65.3 in 2006, Todd Boeckman 63.9 in 2007)
    *Second
    265.8 yards/game of total offense, 2nd (Germaine 270.6 in 1998; Smith 263.0 in 2005)
    10 games with 200-plus yards of total offense, 2nd (Hoying 11 in 1995; Smith only 8 in both 2005 and 2006) – PROJECTED TIED FOR FIRST
    *Third
    3,190 yards of total offense, 3rd (only 57 yards behind Germaine in 2nd in 1998 and only 100 yards behind Hoying for 1st in 1995) – PROJECTED FIRST
    29 TDs responsible for (25 passing, 4 rushing), 3rd (just 2 behind Smith in 2006 and Hoying in 1995) – COULD PROJECT FIRST
    2,551 passing yards, tied for 3rd with Art Schlichter, 1981 (Joe Germaine 3,330 in 1998 and Bobby Hoying 3,269 in 1995)
    25 passing TDs, tied for 3rd (Smith 30 in 2006 and Hoying 29 in 1995)
    8 200-plus yard passing yard games, 3rd (behind only Hoying and Germaine - who reached 11 their senior years)
    212.6 passing yards/game, tied for 3rd w/Schlichter (Germaine 277.5 in 1998 and Hoying 251.5 in 1995. Troy Smith 195.5 in 2006 and 207.5 in 2005)
    3 games with 300-plus yards of total offense, tied for 3rd with 2009 Pryor (Germaine 5 in 1998 and Smith 4 in 2005)
    *Fourth
    196 completions, 4th (7 behind Smith in 2006, 15 behind Hoying in 1995 and 34 behind Germaine in 1998) – COULD PROJECT SECOND
    157.98 QB rating, 4th (Hoying 163.4 in 1995, Smith 162.6 in 2005 and 161.9 in 2006)
    *Eighth
    298 attempts, 8th (1 behind Todd Boeckman in 2007. With a minimum of 20 pass attempts in the bowl game he will finish 4th in attempts) – SHOULD PROJECT FOURTH
    *Single-game, 2010
    16 consecutive completions (record was 12)
    334 yards vs. Indiana, 8th on single-game passing list
    24 completions vs. Indiana ranks tied for 10th
    4 TD passes vs. Eastern Michigan, tied for 4th (record is 5)
    346 total yards of offense vs. Miami, 9th all-time
    5 TDs responsible for vs. Eastern Michigan, 2nd all-time (record 6)

    So, he *may* end up with two season records and one single game record? And a shit ton of career records because he started more than anyone else? Ok.
  • zach24oz
    I will still take Troy Smith over TP...Both are very good but I disagree with saying he is the best ever. TP had a lot more passing attempts his sophomore year and this year than Smith did his jr year. Troy Smith's Jr-Sr year stats:
    2005- com:att 149 237 2282 62.9 comp% 16TD's 4ints QB rtg- 162.66
    2006- com:att 203 311 2542 65.3 comp% 30 TD's 6ints QB rtg -161.91
  • HitsRus
    Glad to see Chekwa getting his due. Its unfortunate that he always seems to be the scapegoat for Buckeye fans.
    Chekwa's defense really improved as the season went on.
  • LJ
    zach24oz;586963 wrote:I will still take Troy Smith over TP...Both are very good but I disagree with saying he is the best ever. TP had a lot more passing attempts his sophomore year and this year than Smith did his jr year. Troy Smith's Jr-Sr year stats:
    2005- com:att 149 237 2282 62.9 comp% 16TD's 4ints QB rtg- 162.66
    2006- com:att 203 311 2542 65.3 comp% 30 TD's 6ints QB rtg -161.91

    Pryor had more attempts, but also a higher completion percentage jr year vs jr year. Also 9 more TDs. Smith had also been in the program for 4 years already vs Pryor's 3. Hell, besides interceptions, Pryor's Jr. year stats are pretty close to a 5th year senior heisman winner,
    CompAtt yrds % yp/A TD INT RAT
    196 298 2551 65.8 8.56 25 11 158.0

    Oh, and the year that Smith won the Heisman he had 204 rushing yards and TP had 639. So 3190 total yards and 29 total TD's he JR and 3rd year in the program and Smith had 2746 yards and 31 tds in his SR year and 5th year in the program. Stat wise, Pryor WILL have a better Sr year than Smith had.

    Pretty crazy that people give Pryor so much shit, yet he had better stats this year than our previous Heisman winner did in his Heisman season.
  • zach24oz
    If you didn't remember, Troy Smith didn't come to OSU as a QB, he came as a 2 or 3 star athlete and he wasn't given the starting job till about his jr year... He and Zwick had to battle it out befoer Zwick coughed up the ball and the game against Texas before Tress handed things to Smith. And I am not saying Pryor is terrible or I don't remember saying he wouldn't pass up Smith... I'm just saying that Pryor has had a lot more opportunities on the field than what Smith had to.
  • karen lotz
    ^^^^

    Good point. Also, in tonight's ACC championship Tyrod Taylor has been talked about as VaTech's all time winningest QB and how he holds numerous school records. VaTech doesn't have the storied past that OSU football does, but does that make him the best QB in school history? He is better than Mike Vick because he has started 3.5 years (41 career starts) to Vick's 2 years?
  • enigmaax
    karen lotz;587892 wrote:^^^^

    Good point. Also, in tonight's ACC championship Tyrod Taylor has been talked about as VaTech's all time winningest QB and how he holds numerous school records. VaTech doesn't have the storied past that OSU football does, but does that make him the best QB in school history? He is better than Mike Vick because he has started 3.5 years (41 career starts) to Vick's 2 years?

    That is a good comparison because both Smith and Vick "almost" got their teams a national title and ended up getting destroyed. Both Pryor and Taylor failed to sniff a title game.
  • 77Legend
    TP will make it next year. I'll still take T.Smith over T.Pryor.
  • LJ
    zach24oz;587882 wrote:If you didn't remember, Troy Smith didn't come to OSU as a QB, he came as a 2 or 3 star athlete and he wasn't given the starting job till about his jr year... He and Zwick had to battle it out befoer Zwick coughed up the ball and the game against Texas before Tress handed things to Smith. And I am not saying Pryor is terrible or I don't remember saying he wouldn't pass up Smith... I'm just saying that Pryor has had a lot more opportunities on the field than what Smith had to.

    He did come as an athlete, but was always used primarily as a QB but was then also used in other spots to get him on the field. While yes, Pryor has had more time on the field, you still ignored the FACT that Pryor had a year this year (and hasn't even played his bowl game yet) that is very comparable to the year that Smith won the Heisman. Hell, Pryor had more yards overall than Smith had and only 2 less TDs.
  • Big Gain
    zach24oz;587882 wrote:If you didn't remember, Troy Smith didn't come to OSU as a QB, he came as a 2 or 3 star athlete and he wasn't given the starting job till about his jr year... He and Zwick had to battle it out befoer Zwick coughed up the ball and the game against Texas before Tress handed things to Smith. And I am not saying Pryor is terrible or I don't remember saying he wouldn't pass up Smith... I'm just saying that Pryor has had a lot more opportunities on the field than what Smith had to.
    The summer between Smith's Junior and Senior year he was one of the eleven QBs invited to the most prestigious QB camp.

    It took Smith 2 years to figure out how to stay out of Tressel's dog house, how to grow from a kid to a man and realize he had to spend a lot of time watching film.

    Ask him, he will tell the same story.
  • Big Gain
    Thunder70;586239 wrote:and TP is 3-0 against UM while Hart was 0-4 against OSU

    One of three Ohio State QBs to go 3-0 agaisnt Michgan. If he beats Micigan next year he will be the only QB in Ohio State history to win 4. Reason enough for him to come back for his senior.
  • vball10set
    Big Gain;588040 wrote:One of three Ohio State QBs to go 3-0 agaisnt Michgan. If he beats Micigan next year he will be the only QB in Ohio State history to win 4. Reason enough for him to come back for his senior.
    I personally don't think he has a realisitic option other than to come back, but that's pretty cool that he'd be the only one....and it'd sure be a plus to have a red-shirted Braxton Miller get a chance to work out with and study the system under TP
  • WebFire
    vball10set;588146 wrote:I personally don't think he has a realisitic option other than to come back
    Agree. I would say with confidence that if TP was a first round pick he'd be leaving.
  • 77Legend
    Man, still got Troy Smith haters.....wow OSU fans..... or at least some of you.
  • LJ
    77Legend;588291 wrote:Man, still got Troy Smith haters.....wow OSU fans..... or at least some of you.

    Who is hating on Troy Smith?
  • sleeper
    Troy is the best college QB I've ever seen(Vince is very close). I never watched some of the other great OSU QB's, but I do know this, I'm taking T. Smith over Pryor any day.
  • karen lotz
    sleeper;588406 wrote:Troy is the best college QB I've ever seen

    You don't watch enough college football.


    This proves what was already widely known on this site, you know about as much about college football as Gibby knows about comedians.