Carrollton Bans Senior from walking at Graduation for helping his sick mother

• sportchampps

  Oh no the school now has two make another diesicion on another student. Let the student present their case and make a ruling a half hour outta the school boards year is worth it for a student to get a once in a lifetime opportunity. If the girl did miss days to help her parents who were in a serious car rep she should walk as well.
• sleeper

  

  Yeah and if the kid went through 4 years and didn't pass English his last year, he should walk too.
  
  No wonder our education system is the laughing stock of the civilized world. Walking at graduation used to mean something, now any shmuck off the street can get a high school diploma.
• friendfromlowry

  sleeper;1147318 wrote:now any shmuck off the street can get a high school diploma.

  Hell even I have one somewhere.
• se-alum

  

  Steel Valley Football;1147283 wrote:And I said, as did others, that schools are not in the business of judging the circumstances of every absence, tardiness, fight, illegal possession, offensive shirt, sexist comment, etc because they are not a court system.
  
  I also said that doing so would set a precedence and bring others with similar claims trying to get an exception to the rule....and abracafuckingdabra look what happened.
  
  You also said that it was such a rare case in such a small school that there wouldn't be other similar cases. To which I replied what if a student's mother was in a car accident and felt they deserved the same exception. I said all it would do is open a bigger can of worms and I was spot on.
  
  I'm not trying to gloat, but get a fucking clue.

  They were when I was in school. We had to bring a note for an absence, and then they decided if it was excused or not, same thing with being tardy. If a teacher thought your shirt was offensive, they sent you to the principal, and he either let you wear it or made you turn it inside out. There were no blanket policies. That's the way it should be.
• justincredible

  

  Steel Valley Football;1147287 wrote:GOAT poster.
  
  Except Justin. I changed my mind and agree with everything he posts. Now and any time in the future.

  
  Why?
• hoops23

  

  justincredible;1147522 wrote:Why?

  SVF received threats after your disagreement. Very mean threats.
• I Wear Pants

  sleeper;1147318 wrote:Yeah and if the kid went through 4 years and didn't pass English his last year, he should walk too.
  
  No wonder our education system is the laughing stock of the civilized world. Walking at graduation used to mean something, now any shmuck off the street can get a high school diploma.

  You made a massive change in the situation there though.
  
  If the kid doesn't pass the classes then not only should he not walk he shouldn't get his diploma. No Child Left Behind and crap like that are killing our education system. We need to be holding kids back if they do not meet requirements instead of just shoving them through without them learning anything.
  
  That's completely different than a kid who passed the requirements for grades but had to care for his parent so missed more days than most. If you have the grades you should walk.
  
  And walking at graduation didn't use to mean anything in the past either. Graduating high school is not an accomplishment.
• Go4alOngbOmB

  

  If my mother at that stage in my life, would have had any type of ANYTHING.....that would threaten her life, and she needed me....I would be there no matter what.
  
  But then again, I had amazing parents....who I care about and love to this day and forever.
  
  As for how the school board is treating this, if the kid had to have 2 jobs to help support his Mom in a single income household...he did what was right. If that story holds true, you get your diploma, even if it is through the mail, and you hang your head HIGH son. You are already more mature than 2/3 of the kids your own age.... and I will only WISH that the other 2/3 can get a clue before it is too late.
• scoreboard

  

  Curly J;1145556 wrote:Second place is the first loser. /Dale Earnhardt'd

  If you're not first, you're last /Ricky Bobby'd
• scoreboard

  

  sportchampps;1147313 wrote:Oh no the school now has two make another diesicion on another student. Let the student present their case and make a ruling a half hour outta the school boards year is worth it for a student to get a once in a lifetime opportunity. If the girl did miss days to help her parents who were in a serious car rep she should walk as well.

  
• sleeper

  

  friendfromlowry;1147328 wrote:Hell even I have one somewhere.

  reps.
• sleeper

  

  I Wear Pants;1147526 wrote:You made a massive change in the situation there though.
  
  If the kid doesn't pass the classes then not only should he not walk he shouldn't get his diploma. No Child Left Behind and crap like that are killing our education system. We need to be holding kids back if they do not meet requirements instead of just shoving them through without them learning anything.
  
  That's completely different than a kid who passed the requirements for grades but had to care for his parent so missed more days than most. If you have the grades you should walk.
  
  And walking at graduation didn't use to mean anything in the past either. Graduating high school is not an accomplishment.

  I don't see it as being any different. There are requirements for passing high school, and a kid missing more than the allocated absences should be enough to disqualify him from graduating. You say hold them back, but yet you support a kid missing all those days walking. He didn't pass the requirements to graduate, period.
• thavoice

  sleeper;1147848 wrote:I don't see it as being any different. There are requirements for passing high school, and a kid missing more than the allocated absences should be enough to disqualify him from graduating. You say hold them back, but yet you support a kid missing all those days walking. He didn't pass the requirements to graduate, period.

  Apparently he DID meet the requirements to graduate, just not to walk at the graduation.
  
  I just dont understand that if this kid, and the other one that just came forward, was REALLY missing all this school due to a parent accident, or the cancer treatments, then why didnt they tell the school and such?
• sleeper

  

  thavoice;1147878 wrote:Apparently he DID meet the requirements to graduate, just not to walk at the graduation.
  
  I just dont understand that if this kid, and the other one that just came forward, was REALLY missing all this school due to a parent accident, or the cancer treatments, then why didnt they tell the school and such?

  Is walking at graduation really that big of a deal? Who cares? My graduation was boring.
  
  Maybe I should have missed 16 days of school to, sounds like a great trade.
• thavoice

  sleeper;1147888 wrote:Is walking at graduation really that big of a deal? Who cares? My graduation was boring.

  I agree totally. I mentioned it in another post in this thread that at my HS graduation us senior baseball players got out diploma's within 5 minutes and left because we had a baseball game. All the other kids who had to sit there through it all were jealous!
• Heretic

  

  sleeper;1147888 wrote:Is walking at graduation really that big of a deal? Who cares? My graduation was boring.
  
  Maybe I should have missed 16 days of school to, sounds like a great trade.

  Let's see. During my graduation, it was rainy, so we had to be indoors. And it was humid, so it was pretty miserable indoors. While wearing the black robe-gown dealie and sitting for a long time waiting for people to stop fucking talking and start saying names so I could fucking get my fucking diploma and quietly sit back down (because, you know, the formal ceremony of the thing...no having fun allowed).
  
  In other words, it's a stupid fucking thing only to benefit parents who want to see their kid looking all nice as they achieve this huge life milestone. If it was purely up to me, I could have found a million things to do that'd be more entertaining.
• 2kool4skool

  

  sleeper;1147888 wrote:Maybe I should have missed 16 days of school to, sounds like a great trade.

  too*
• Steel Valley Football

  se-alum;1147332 wrote:They were when I was in school. We had to bring a note for an absence, and then they decided if it was excused or not, same thing with being tardy. If a teacher thought your shirt was offensive, they sent you to the principal, and he either let you wear it or made you turn it inside out. There were no blanket policies. That's the way it should be.

  
  Everything you've described is an on-the-spot decision - the situation with this student was not that. Had he brought an excuse the day after each absence, then maybe it would be viewed differently by the school admins. Based on everything I've read, he didn't do anything like that; his missed days were cumulative an unexcused.
• Steel Valley Football

  se-alum;1147332 wrote:They were when I was in school. We had to bring a note for an absence, and then they decided if it was excused or not, same thing with being tardy. If a teacher thought your shirt was offensive, they sent you to the principal, and he either let you wear it or made you turn it inside out. There were no blanket policies. That's the way it should be.

  
  That's one person's opinion and that's fine, but it's irrelevant to the current situation. School policy is made based on years of experiences by a group of people voted in by the community. If the community wants a change in school policy, it can most certainly happen via the proper channels.
• Steel Valley Football

  justincredible;1147522 wrote:Why?

  It's probably just easier that way.
• thavoice

  Steel Valley Football;1148100 wrote:Everything you've described is an on-the-spot decision - the situation with this student was not that. Had he brought an excuse the day after each absence, then maybe it would be viewed differently by the school admins. Based on everything I've read, he didn't do anything like that; his missed days were cumulative an unexcused.

  Also, it isnt like those appointments would be the spur of the moment. There is no reason why his mother could not have informed the school beforehand.
• I Wear Pants

  thavoice;1148128 wrote:Also, it isnt like those appointments would be the spur of the moment. There is no reason why his mother could not have informed the school beforehand.

  Yeah his lazy mother should have been worrying about calling the secretary at the school instead of focusing on not fucking dying.
• sportchampps

  Actually a few high schools will let a student walk even if he failed a class his senior year. All the student has to do is enroll in summer school for that class and they will let him walk with his class.
• QuakerOats

  Steel Valley Football;1146146 wrote:Calling an administration stupid and lazy, while not proposing an alternative solution, including an implementation process, is also stupid and lazy.
  
  Rules are rules.

  
  You would make an excellent union member.
• thavoice

  I Wear Pants;1148138 wrote:Yeah his lazy mother should have been worrying about calling the secretary at the school instead of focusing on not ****ing dying.

  Not too fucking difficult to do. As I said before my mother went through two stints of cancer and she always was concerned with having family members, or friends, taking off work, or school, to take her to the treatmens.