Carrollton Bans Senior from walking at Graduation for helping his sick mother
-
Steel Valley FootballApple;1145850 wrote:I think the main reason they changed the rule and let him walk was because of the social media outcry and trying to CYA after it went viral on Yahoo News.
I'm pretty sure the rules is in place still. The simply made an exception.
I agree though. It's much like the flagpole case. The guy broke the rule, but since the media got a hold of it the HOA caved. For the most part, people only agree with rules when the rules are to their own benefit. -
Steel Valley Footballjustincredible;1145875 wrote:If he was missing school for ****s and giggles the rule would apply. It isn't about doing what you want.
Which goes back to my question you didn't answer. -
justincredible
Which one?Steel Valley Football;1145883 wrote:Which goes back to my question you didn't answer. -
Steel Valley Footballjustincredible;1145898 wrote:Which one?
The one you didn't answer. It was right next to one other one you didn't answer. -
justincredibleSteel Valley Football;1145614 wrote:Would it only apply to cancer?justincredible;1145619 wrote:Substitute cancer with any terminal disease. Odds are the numbers are still less than a handful at even the largest high schools.
Steel Valley Football;1145643 wrote:Ok, so they'd need a list of this diseases. What if a case where a disease they hadn't thought of comes up?
What about an auto accident where there the mom became paralyzed and needed help to eat? Would that apply also? If so, what if the auto accident was a result of the mom doing drugs and she killed someone else in another car?
Hopefully, you see where I'm going w this. There are too many variables so they have a general rule in place and they work from there. Which is exactly what happened in this case. But, instead of thinking it through, people just immediately throw dumb comments around about how dumb and lazy the school ADs are.justincredible;1145734 wrote:If I could post a fart noise I would.
High school's aren't prisons. Their purpose isn't to drown kids with rules and make their high school experience crap because them. Special circumstances do come up. Hopefully, you see where I'm going w this.
Steel Valley Football;1145832 wrote:So, Justin, what if what thavoice suggested is true? Should there be a checks and balance system in place? Or should the schools just take every student's claim at face value?
Since you obviously DIDN'T see where I was going w that.justincredible;1145840 wrote:Case by case. Obviously they felt this kid had a legit case and reversed it. Perhaps they might not have reversed it if he had 26 unexcused absences instead of 16. He was only two over the limit.
Go on...Steel Valley Football;1145904 wrote:The one you didn't answer. It was right next to one other one you didn't answer. -
Steel Valley Footballjustincredible;1145913 wrote:Go on...
Should there be a checks and balance system in place? Or should the schools just take every student's claim at face value? -
justincredible
You didn't see where I said they should approach it on a case by case basis? It's right there in my post where I quoted these questions. It's actually the first thing I said.Steel Valley Football;1145918 wrote:Should there be a checks and balance system in place? Or should the schools just take every student's claim at face value? -
Iliketurtles
Lies. You're just a big dummy Justin.justincredible;1145920 wrote:You didn't see where I said they should approach it on a case by case basis? It's right there in my post where I quoted these questions. It's actually the first thing I said. -
sleeper
I think its more of a way to avoid racism or sexism or whatever ism some schmuck will bring up because they didn't get what they want. For example, they let this kid walk because he's white, and a black guy misses a day of school to take his mom to the doctor to get viagra for her F buddy, and he's denied walking at graduation. Good ol' Al will be right there with his "This is why blacks aren't all trillionaires because the white man is holding them back".I Wear Pants;1145529 wrote:"Rules are rules" and "zero tolerance" are code for "we are too lazy and stupid to actually think about the proper response to individual cases and situations".
Zero tolerance may appear lazy, and sure it is, but its a way to avoid liability by hiding behind strict rules. -
sleeper
I agree. I got good grades by calling all of my teacher frauds and derelicts. Straight A's through pure intimidation.FatHobbit;1145863 wrote:Meh, if he does the work and gets good grades I don't give a crap if he went to class. -
DeyDurkie5Steel Valley Football;1145918 wrote:Should there be a checks and balance system in place? Or should the schools just take every student's claim at face value?
LOL SVF with the fail. thanks for playing!justincredible;1145920 wrote:You didn't see where I said they should approach it on a case by case basis? It's right there in my post where I quoted these questions. It's actually the first thing I said. -
thavoice
Zero tolerance def is a lazy way to do things, but it is a way to set out the rules in advance so everyone knows the consequences of their actions instead of what MIGHT happen if they take it on a case-by-case basis.sleeper;1145947 wrote:I think its more of a way to avoid racism or sexism or whatever ism some schmuck will bring up because they didn't get what they want. For example, they let this kid walk because he's white, and a black guy misses a day of school to take his mom to the doctor to get viagra for her F buddy, and he's denied walking at graduation. Good ol' Al will be right there with his "This is why blacks aren't all trillionaires because the white man is holding them back".
Zero tolerance may appear lazy, and sure it is, but its a way to avoid liability by hiding behind strict rules.
I still think we dont know everything about this situation. I mean, what kind of parent wouldnt be in contact with the school about this? I think this is what happened......the kid took his mother to what she needed to do at times, sometimes just skipped out of school (maybe to work, maybe because he was too tired from working the night before) and now that it comes out that he cannot walk on graduation she comes up to say that it was because he always took me to my treatments and such.
I dont buy it that he misses those days because of this. Hell..it isnt like he isnt graduating! Getting out of having to sit through that is a blessing! We had a baseball game the day of our HS graduation....we marched in......they had a special presentation to us Seniors on the team and we took off! We could kind of hear the ceremony from the baseball field where we were taking BP before we left for the game but it was nice not having to sit through it all -
Con_AlmaWhy are the absences unexcused if he's caring for a relative that's in need? Didn't they inform the school of when who would not be in, so that he might care for his mother?
16 days of unexcused is a lot. -
justincredible
I agree, but only two more than the "limit."Con_Alma;1145988 wrote:16 days of unexcused is a lot. -
Steel Valley Football
Except that didn't answer either question.justincredible;1145920 wrote:You didn't see where I said they should approach it on a case by case basis? It's right there in my post where I quoted these questions. It's actually the first thing I said. -
Steel Valley Football
Which now brings me to thus fucking black loser. What a fucking jackass you are. STFU bitch.DeyDurkie5;1145976 wrote:LOL SVF with the fail. thanks for playing! -
justincredibleSteel Valley Football;1146007 wrote:Except that didn't answer either question.
It didnt answer them in the way you wanted, but that is out of my control. -
DeadliestWarrior34
This. I think they knew the circumstances all along and are just trying to save face now.Apple;1145850 wrote:I think the main reason they changed the rule and let him walk was because of the social media outcry and trying to CYA after it went viral on Yahoo News. -
GOONx19I've analyzed the previous 93 posts and come to the difficult conclusion that SVF has provided a substantial amount of lawls on this thread.
-
Steel Valley Football
Seriously? You might be a fucking tard if you are.justincredible;1146023 wrote:It didnt answer them in the way you wanted, but that is out of my control. -
Steel Valley Football
stfu blackGOONx19;1146042 wrote:I've analyzed the previous 93 posts and come to the difficult conclusion that SVF has provided a substantial amount of lawls on this thread. -
GOONx19Steel Valley Football;1146052 wrote:stfu black
-
justincredible
lol okSteel Valley Football;1146050 wrote:Seriously? You might be a fucking tard if you are. -
sportchamppsI think she takes school seriously if one of her goals was to watch her son graduate. It also said there is no one else in the household so his sister can't just take a day off or his dad can't just drive her. This student kept his grades up enough to graduate while basically being the sole provider for his household. He is more prepared for college life (ie. Making time management decisions and real world situations) then 90% of his classmates who never missed a single day.
-
Steel Valley Footballjustincredible;1146059 wrote:lol ok
Yep lol ok. Thanks for your helpful insight w this.