Disgusted with Right Wing Apologists
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QuakerOatsCommander of Awesome;1869289 wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-trump-retweets-false-facts-obama-pardons-article-1.3449105
For all his posturing that Obama was the worst president ever, he's very keen to jump to "but Obama did it too!" as a justification.
What a joke.
Right Wing apologist in a nutshell.
This might help, as a start:
https://townhall.com/columnists/evansayet/2017/07/13/he-fights-n2354580 -
CenterBHSFan
Hey! We need to lighten up a little bit, eh?
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Commander of Awesome
Great post on reddit on what a shitshow this:
So the Russian partner, Algalarov, the money guy... he is Emin Algalarov's dad. Emin Algalarov and his manager (Goldstone) set up the June 9 meeting with DJTjr and the Russian spy with the computer hacking talent. Remember, later that day Trump said in a rally "I hope Russia releases her 33000 missing emails!"? (Algalarov and Trump ran the Miss Universe pageant together in Moscow. That is when they first started talk of Trump tower. Probably also when they started talk of fucking over our democracy.)
The bank that promised to fund the project, Sberbank, is Putin/state owned. Obama put them under sanctions in 2014.
They guy Cohen reached out to in his email of January 2016 asking for help? Peskov. Putin confidante, Kremlin spokesperson. You might remember him from the Steele dossier. He was the guy Putin put in charge of gathering kompromat on Hillary Clinton. The Steele dossier alleges that this dossier of kompromat was handed over to Trump campaign in June 2016. Yep, probs at the DJTjr meeting. (Peskov was also probably in charge of the entire hacking/disinformation campaign, both here and in Turkey. No doubt it was a coincidence that Peskov was in NY the days surrounding the election.).
The whole group of them are sloppy and stupid. What kind of a KGB guy is this sort of sloppy?
The oligarchs are going to be so pissed at Putin. All this $, time and effort.
FINCEN is cracking down hard on their luxury real estate money laundering schemes, so their NY and FLA investments are going to lose value quick when that market crashes. Then where will they stash their dirty $Bs?
Tougher sanctions than Magnitsky Act, with no hope of lfiting them.
All those dreams of $Bs from Rosneft raping the planet... down the tubes.
When Trump goes down, maybe Putin will end up sitting in a cage in the middle of some court room in Russia, then thrown into a dungeon, never to be heard from again.
*And, I don't think it will be President Pence, either.
During the campaign:
[INDENT] Stopping in at Pierce's Pitt Bar-B-Que in Williamsburg, VA to visit with Virginians and enjoy a pulled pork sandwich
[/INDENT] (See who he's sitting with? Bottom pic on the right. That guy goes way back with Manafort and the treason gang. As a matter of fact, Manafort brought Pence into the campaign. And, Manafort is probably singing for his life. Literally, Putin will kill him for this shit show.)
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Commander of Awesome
http://www.salon.com/2017/08/29/ted-cruz-changed-his-mind-about-federal-disaster-relief-rather-quickly/
lmao, what a sack of shit.
In 2012, Sen. Ted Cruz furiously fought a relief bill for the victims of Hurricane Sandy. But now that his home state of Texas it witnessing the violent destruction of a hurricane, he has embraced federal aide with open arms.
Cruz graciously said at a press conference Monday that President Trump has pledged “whatever the state needs” for the major disaster. During an interview after that press conference, Cruz defended his position on the 2012 Hurricane Sandy relief package, calling it “filled with unrelated pork.”
MSNBC’s Katy Tur asked Cruz to justify this apparent hypocrisy.
“There is time for political sniping later,” Cruz said.
"The Washington Post’s Glenn Kessler reviewed a comprehensive report done by the Congressional Research Service, which found that virtually all of the 2013 disaster relief bill went towards damage caused by Sandy. There were some line items in the bill that seemed unrelated to the destruction in New Jersey and New York, such as repairs for the Kennedy Space Center in Florida. But Sandy’s path was large, encompassing most of the Eastern seaboard."
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like_that
Granted I see where you are trying to go with this thread. It's no different than Sleeper's act when he pulled a 180.
With that being said, the thread started off fine, but now you are posting mother jones articles and reddit posts (sprinkle that in with media sensationalism) and you're wondering how Trump is normalizing his incompetence? This might help ease your confusion http://www.storyit.com/Classics/Stories/boycriedwolf.htm.
Edit: and now Salon. -
iclfan2
Yea you are way wrong on the Sandy thing. Give that one up.
Since we get to use partisan links here apparently
http://theresurgent.com/cruz-is-right-sandy-relief-bill-was-filled-with-political-pork/
Here is a Wapo article that says there isn't a ton of pork in it, but then goes ahead and names a bunch. Maybe not 2/3 like dummy Cruz said, but enough for someone who is supposed to be fiscally conservative to say hmm. Wapo also tries to argue that "disaster relief" isn't pork even if unrelated to Sandy. This is why congress sucks, if you want a bill to help an area, build one that isn't dumb as shit and only focuses on the area in need.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/08/29/ted-cruzs-claim-that-two-thirds-of-the-hurricane-sandy-bill-had-nothing-to-do-with-sandy/
Finally, as both articles state, it was spent extremely slow, which doesn't make sense for a relief bill that people need immediately.
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Commander of Awesome
Care to dispute anything the articles wrote about?like_that;1869335 wrote:Granted I see where you are trying to go with this thread. It's no different than Sleeper's act when he pulled a 180.
With that being said, the thread started off fine, but now you are posting mother jones articles and reddit posts (sprinkle that in with media sensationalism) and you're wondering how Trump is normalizing his incompetence? This might help ease your confusion http://www.storyit.com/Classics/Stories/boycriedwolf.htm.
Edit: and now Salon. -
Commander of Awesome
I'd argue the contrary. Cruz said he didn't support the bill bc it was filled with "unnecessary pork". That was proven to be completely false and misguided. How is that misguided?iclfan2;1869338 wrote:Yea you are way wrong on the Sandy thing. Give that one up.
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like_that
Other than the fact you would say the same thing (and already have with QO) if anyone posted articles from the blaze, brietbart, fox, etc? No, I don't have interest or time in defending Trump or going down that rabbit hole. A lot of his criticism is deserved, and a lot of it is blown out of proportion. How else would you expect anyone to react when every report is the WORST THING TO EVER HAPPEN IN THIS COUNTRY? Just don't act shocked at the fact his incompetence is being normalized.Commander of Awesome;1869339 wrote:Care to dispute anything the articles wrote about? -
Commander of Awesome
Feel free to use what sources you trust. If you post a blaze/breibart article that posts nonfactual information happy to engage in conversation. If you find evidence to the salon article that Cruz didn't spew BS when it convenienced him and then take the other side when it convenienced him, by all means let's discuss!like_that;1869341 wrote:Other than the fact you would say the same thing (and already have with QO) if anyone posted articles from the blaze, brietbart, fox, etc? No, I don't have interest or time in defending Trump or going down that rabbit hole. A lot of his criticism is deserved, and a lot of it is blown out of proportion. How else would you expect anyone to react when every report is the WORST THING TO EVER HAPPEN IN THIS COUNTRY? Just don't act shocked at the fact his incompetence is being normalized. -
like_that
I don't post breitbart and the blaze for the same reason I don't react to extremely left leaning sources. I actually believe in intellectual honesty, crazy concept I know. Most of those sites publish bullshit and are later proven to be highly inaccurate, because they are trying to propagate their bullshit agenda. If I had the time I would dig into every article from left leaning sites to prove they are wrong I would, but I don't. I'll let the people who get paid do that.Commander of Awesome;1869343 wrote:Feel free to use what sources you trust. If you post a blaze/breibart article that posts nonfactual information happy to engage in conversation. If you find evidence to the salon article that Cruz didn't spew BS when it convenienced him and then take the other side when it convenienced him, by all means let's discuss! -
Commander of Awesome
You see to struggle with this, Breitbart ≠ to Mother Jones. Both are politically leaning for sure, however one is a well respected, well decorated and highly trustworthy. One is well known for printing BS, spewing BS, not sourcing their information, etc.. The comparison is pathetically stupid.like_that;1869344 wrote:I don't post breitbart and the blaze for the same reason I don't react to extremely left leaning sources. I actually believe in intellectual honesty, crazy concept I know. Most of those sites publish bullshit and are later proven to be highly inaccurate, because they are trying to propagate their bullshit agenda. If I had the time I would dig into every article from left leaning sites to prove they are wrong I would, but I don't. I'll let the people who get paid do that. -
Commander of Awesome
"Mother Jones has been a finalist for 31 National Magazine Awards, winning seven times. Mother Jones provides in depth journalism that mostly favors the political left. We cannot find any evidence of Mother Jones making false claims and when in error they correct appropriately. This is a factual source that is always well sourced."
Nicholas Lemann, dean of the Graduate School of Journalism at Columbia University, said , “Mother Jones seems to live in a zone where it’s respected. It’s obviously ideological. But it’s respected.” –Ruth McCambridge
Keep digging. -
like_that
I don't think any moderate would say either is a legitimate source. Any source that is far left or right is trash. None believe in intellectual honestly, and both will skew data to support their argument. They are both trash but whatever makes you feel better.Commander of Awesome;1869345 wrote:You see to struggle with this, Breitbart ≠ to Mother Jones. Both are politically leaning for sure, however one is a well respected, well decorated and highly trustworthy. One is well known for printing BS, spewing BS, not sourcing their information, etc.. The comparison is pathetically stupid. -
like_that
Fox News has won many awards as well. Your point? Keep digging and pretending you aren't biased at all.
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Commander of Awesome
Since 1997, the Public Broadcasting System is the king of the Peabody, with 50 awards for education and entertainment, and 19 more for news and public service programming like The News Hour and Frontline. Local public television stations shine, like WGBH-TV in Boston with 33, and WNET-TV in New York with 17. For the major news providers, it is CBS with 16, BBC 14, ABC 12, NPR 12, CNN 8, and NBC 7. More interesting is the names towards the bottom of the Peabody list. You know who has a Peabody Award? Comedy Central. In fact, they have five, including two for Jon Stewart's "Daily Show" and one for Stephen Colbert's "The Colbert Report". KHOU in Houston and WFAA in Dallas each have three, as does sports network ESPN. Nickelodeon children's network won a public service Peabody in 1997. Channel One Network, the in-school news station for secondary school kids, won a Peabody in 2004 for coverage of Sudan. Even conservative group Focus on the Family has a Peabody. How many Peabody Awards say "Fox News Channel" on them? Zero.like_that;1869350 wrote:Fox News has won many awards as well. Your point? Keep digging and pretending you aren't biased at all.
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like_that
lol I should have rephrased that. They have had several journalists win awards. By all means though, keep posting sources like Mother Jones, Salon, Huffpo, etc. Let me know if anyone outside of the people that already agree with you actually takes you seriously. In the meantime hopefully you learn how to post your own thoughts instead of copying and pasting everything you see. Before sleeper went full retard he at least had a good term for you. Useful idiot indeed.Commander of Awesome;1869353 wrote:Since 1997, the Public Broadcasting System is the king of the Peabody, with 50 awards for education and entertainment, and 19 more for news and public service programming like The News Hour and Frontline. Local public television stations shine, like WGBH-TV in Boston with 33, and WNET-TV in New York with 17. For the major news providers, it is CBS with 16, BBC 14, ABC 12, NPR 12, CNN 8, and NBC 7. More interesting is the names towards the bottom of the Peabody list. You know who has a Peabody Award? Comedy Central. In fact, they have five, including two for Jon Stewart's "Daily Show" and one for Stephen Colbert's "The Colbert Report". KHOU in Houston and WFAA in Dallas each have three, as does sports network ESPN. Nickelodeon children's network won a public service Peabody in 1997. Channel One Network, the in-school news station for secondary school kids, won a Peabody in 2004 for coverage of Sudan. Even conservative group Focus on the Family has a Peabody. How many Peabody Awards say "Fox News Channel" on them? Zero.
lolfail again! -
like_that
We will give COA another few minutes to post somebody else's thoughts.
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Commander of Awesome
So facts don't matter with you, got it. Am I'm the idiot? Keep moving the goal posts dude!like_that;1869355 wrote:lol I should have rephrased that. They have had several journalists win awards. By all means though, keep posting sources like Mother Jones, Salon, Huffpo, etc. Let me know if anyone outside of the people that already agree with you actually takes you seriously. In the meantime hopefully you learn how to post your own thoughts instead of copying and pasting everything you see. Before sleeper went full retard he at least had a good term for you. Useful idiot indeed. -
like_that
Yeah, facts don't matter to me. If that is what you gathered from all of this, I will direct you at this link you shared yesterday. http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logical-fallaciesCommander of Awesome;1869357 wrote:So facts don't matter with you, got it. Am I'm the idiot? Keep moving the goal posts dude!
Using your logic, ESPN won a peabody per the same exact paragraph you copied and pasted. You scoff at ESPN and diss them all the time for being garabge. I guess now based on your logic since they won an award they are legitimate?
Rapistberger's jersey was retired at Miami University and their named their practice field after him at their new training facility. He is no longer a piece of shit I guess. /coalogic
Again, keep using those sources and let me know when someone who isn't bleed heart like you takes those sources seriously. We have already seen you do the exact opposite when conservative sources are posted. The only difference is holier than though COA apparently gets to decide when a source is credible or not LOL. Just COA being a biased hypocrite, which is par for the course. -
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In general, yes.Heretic;1869305 wrote:Wouldn't that mean that a large portion of the threads here (disgusted with Obama/Trump; disgusted with progressives, impressed with Trump [aka: partisan cheerleading] etc. are the same part of the problem?
This particular thread showcases the lefts problem in particular, and why they’re on such an epic losing streak. -
HitsRus
"normalized"......there is nothing here that anyone should ever come to the conclusion of normalcy. The struggle is not about normalcy is Washington, the struggle is about keeping your personal balance in non normal times. There is nothing normal in the election of Trump, a political outsider who addresses the nation by tweeting, whatever pops into his pops into his head without regard...or without care on how it might be received or misinterpreted. There is nothing normal about the opposition party's wild gyrations since election day....wanting him impeached before he even took office...trying to steal and change the election...useless recounts...attacks and attempts to sway/change the electoral college. And the list goes on. Russians, Nazis, white supremacists...all the boogey men being trotted out.
I have full faith in the Republic as designed, to continue to run even in the face of such dysfunction so long as the people keep their heads.
Turn off the news except for brief moments of overview and avoid being swept up into being radicalized by forces that do not have the nation's best interests at heart. Take for example this thread....COA is worried about "right wing apologists"....
I haven't seen one prominent democrat denounce the violent and worrisome anarchist group "Antifa"...some even have likened them to heroes. SMH.
Love your family and take care of them. Do your job. Take care of and treasure your friends and friendships, both Republican and Democrats. Focus on that and our common purposes. Ignore the man behind the curtain. -
gutMother Jones, Reddit and Salon?!?
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Commander of Awesome
From link:like_that;1869358 wrote:Yeah, facts don't matter to me. If that is what you gathered from all of this, I will direct you at this link you shared yesterday. http://www.theskepticsguide.org/resources/logical-fallacies
Using your logic, ESPN won a peabody per the same exact paragraph you copied and pasted. You scoff at ESPN and diss them all the time for being garabge. I guess now based on your logic since they won an award they are legitimate?
Rapistberger's jersey was retired at Miami University and their named their practice field after him at their new training facility. He is no longer a piece of shit I guess. /coalogic
Again, keep using those sources and let me know when someone who isn't bleed heart like you takes those sources seriously. We have already seen you do the exact opposite when conservative sources are posted. The only difference is holier than though COA apparently gets to decide when a source is credible or not LOL. Just COA being a biased hypocrite, which is par for the course.[h=3]The Moving Goalpost[/h] A method of denial that involves arbitrarily moving the criteria for “roof” or acceptance out of range of whatever evidence currently exists. If new evidence comes to light meeting the prior criteria, the goalpost is pushed back further – keeping it out of range of the new evidence. Sometimes impossible criteria are set up at the start – moving the goalpost impossibly out of range – for the purpose of denying an undesirable conclusion.
Oh?like_that;1869349 wrote:I don't think any moderate would say either is a legitimate source. Any source that is far left or right is trash. None believe in intellectual honestly, and both will skew data to support their argument. They are both trash but whatever makes you feel better.
Commander of Awesome;1869353 wrote:Since 1997, the Public Broadcasting System is the king of the Peabody, with 50 awards for education and entertainment, and 19 more for news and public service programming like The News Hour and Frontline. Local public television stations shine, like WGBH-TV in Boston with 33, and WNET-TV in New York with 17. For the major news providers, it is CBS with 16, BBC 14, ABC 12, NPR 12, CNN 8, and NBC 7. More interesting is the names towards the bottom of the Peabody list. You know who has a Peabody Award? Comedy Central. In fact, they have five, including two for Jon Stewart's "Daily Show" and one for Stephen Colbert's "The Colbert Report". KHOU in Houston and WFAA in Dallas each have three, as does sports network ESPN. Nickelodeon children's network won a public service Peabody in 1997. Channel One Network, the in-school news station for secondary school kids, won a Peabody in 2004 for coverage of Sudan. Even conservative group Focus on the Family has a Peabody. How many Peabody Awards say "Fox News Channel" on them? Zero.
Seems to be quite reputable and an even playing field. When confronted with the facts, and unable to find a reputable claim that Mother Jones/Huffington POstNYT/Etc.. They can't be solid sources bc they lean in a direction that you don't like. I get attacked for copying stories from reputable source, and intelligent posts on the subject, and then said I won't take a right leaning news outlet series. Based on......? If you can find one that is known for solid journalism, I'd be happy to read it. DO that instead of whining for fuck's sake. You're crying bc you're butthurt.
Ahhh, moving the goalposts. "No I didn't mean award winning news outlet, I meant specific journalist!" lolk dude, whatever makes you feel better lil guy.like_that;1869355 wrote:lol I should have rephrased that. They have had several journalists win awards. By all means though, keep posting sources like Mother Jones, Salon, Huffpo, etc. Let me know if anyone outside of the people that already agree with you actually takes you seriously. In the meantime hopefully you learn how to post your own thoughts instead of copying and pasting everything you see. Before sleeper went full retard he at least had a good term for you. Useful idiot indeed.
You make it too easy. The best way to get your point across is to find a reputable right leaning news outlet. Shouldn't be difficult for you to find at least one.