GOP Healthcare plan

• QuakerOats

  CenterBHSFan;1864110 wrote:I, for one, think it's a total disgrace that republicans had 7 years to work together to come up with a workable plan that doesn't force anybody to do anything at the threat of a fine while at the same time lowering costs - this would include fixing the problems with big insurance and big pharma - and they've got nothing.
  They are in the same sewer as the democrats.

  
  The workable plan is simply to repeal obamaKare. Government cannot lower costs; government involvement always raises costs. Repeal, and allow free people and free markets to work, and allow small employers to band together to obtain group rates.
• QuakerOats

  https://ballotpedia.org/Scott_Rasmussen%27s_Number_of_the_Day
  
  
  Yep
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;1864247 wrote:The workable plan is simply to repeal obamaKare. Government cannot lower costs; government involvement always raises costs. Repeal, and allow free people and free markets to work, and allow small employers to band together to obtain group rates.

  Obviously not, as that option died yesterday.
• isadore

  Thank you John McCain.
• ppaw1999

  https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-reportedly-threatens-alaska-senators-health-care-vote-200529511.html
  
  Sounds like President Trump can't even work with his own party let alone find any common ground with the Left. It makes it hard to support someone who's only answer to conflict is to try and bully those who don't agree with him.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  I still don't know why the GOP spent all this time going after healthcare when there were many other areas where they could have made real progress. They just wasted months for nothing. Meanwhile, the big items, like taxes, infrastructure, and other budget items are still out there. Oh, and the debt ceiling is coming up soon.
  It was high drama last night last night and it was a huge fail for the GOP.
• iclfan2

  

  That vote last night was a joke. The Senators that voted no, voted for a much larger repeal in 2015 and ran on repealing Obamacare. Way to let down your constituents.
• like_that

  

  iclfan2;1864433 wrote:That vote last night was a joke. The Senators that voted no, voted for a much larger repeal in 2015 and ran on repealing Obamacare. Way to let down your constituents.

  They are pussies and I don't understand their logic. They won seats and took control by running on "Obamacare repeal." Now all of a sudden they think they will lose all of their seats if they repeal it? Wtf?
• ppaw1999

  like_that;1864434 wrote:They are pussies and I don't understand their logic. They won seats and took control by running on "Obamacare repeal." Now all of a sudden they think they will lose all of their seats if they repeal it? Wtf?

  I think they would lose seats if it passed. If I were the left I would be hoping it would pass. If the right's bill isn't any better or even worst than Obamacare the right would have to own it just like the left has owned Obamacare. The left could then campaign on the right's failure to pass a meaningful health care plan.
• BoatShoes

  like_that;1864434 wrote:They are pussies and I don't understand their logic. They won seats and took control by running on "Obamacare repeal." Now all of a sudden they think they will lose all of their seats if they repeal it? Wtf?

  In midterms it seems like the public tends to think the grass is always greener on the other side. Go figure Obamacare never broke 50% in popularity until the GOP actually had a chance to cripple it.
  
  Then again there's also the chance that they ultimately never really intended or believed in repealing Romney/Obama/HeritageCare in the first place and it was all Kabuki theatre.
• QuakerOats

  As suspected, McCain and Collins are RINO's. The People lose again, temporarily.
• majorspark

  

  like_that;1864434 wrote:They are pussies and I don't understand their logic.

  A self serving lust for power and money.
  

  like_that;1864434 wrote: They won seats and took control by running on "Obamacare repeal." Now all of a sudden they think they will lose all of their seats if they repeal it? Wtf?

  A fear of countless political campaign commercials and media humping of people suffering and dieing because they lost their Obamacare. Whatever form of twister need be made to preserve power. Even the best of them end up loving people crawling into their office to lick their shoes.
• majorspark

  

  iclfan2;1864433 wrote:That vote last night was a joke. The Senators that voted no, voted for a much larger repeal in 2015 and ran on repealing Obamacare. Way to let down your constituents.

  Mccain hates Trump. Thankfully personal animosity would never influence a politicians vote.
• superman

  majorspark;1864524 wrote:Mccain hates Trump. Thankfully personal animosity would never influence a politicians vote.

  Thankfully that POS will be gone soon.
• gut

  superman;1864538 wrote:Thankfully that POS will be gone soon.

  What makes them more special then any number of ruthless gangs?
• superman

  gut;1864540 wrote:What makes them more special then any number of ruthless gangs?

  Ummmm, what?
• isadore

  superman;1864538 wrote:Thankfully that POS will be gone soon.

  so you are predicting a presidential impeachment, from your lips to God's ear.
  
• superman

  isadore;1864556 wrote:so you are predicting a presidential impeachment, from your lips to God's ear.
  

  No dumbass
• salto

  

  like_that;1864434 wrote:They are pussies and I don't understand their logic. They won seats and took control by running on "Obamacare repeal." Now all of a sudden they think they will lose all of their seats if they repeal it? Wtf?

  They won the seats by running on Obamacare repeal which (supposedly) would also have lowered prices and didn't leave millions with out insurance. When the GOP proposed the opposite, enough repubs voted no.
  
  Remember when.......?
  
  His first day in office drumpf said. lol.....yea, ok. "Great health care at a tiny, fraction of the cost and its going to be so easy!" Yup....keep lying drumpf.
  
  
  [video=youtube;R-VTbt-i_b4][/video]
• isadore

  superman;1864568 wrote:No dumbass

  then you are a cowardly pos for wishing for the death of a man who bravely saved our nation.
• superman

  isadore;1864576 wrote:then you are a cowardly pos for wishing for the death of a man who bravely saved our nation.

  He didn't save shit except another freebie for moochers like you.
• isadore

  superman;1864578 wrote:He didn't save shit except another freebie for moochers like you.

  god, you are an idiot. He was an American hero 50 years before his vote.
• superman

  isadore;1864584 wrote:god, you are an idiot. He was an American hero 50 years before his vote.

  That doesn't change the fact that he is a piece of shit coward now.
• isadore

  superman;1864615 wrote:That doesn't change the fact that he is a piece of shit coward now.

  He was a hero then and a hero now, voting for the American people and resist the bullying of Donald, the loudmouth coward.
• gut

  isadore;1864621 wrote:He was a hero then and a hero now....

  Yeah, but now he's also senile