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ppaw1999

http://www.salon.com/2016/12/22/john-kasich-quietly-bans-cleveland-voters-from-raising-minimum-wage-in-their-city/

Looks like Gov. Kasich has taken the first step!

CenterBHSFan

ppaw1999;1829746 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-to-target-unions-expand-school-choice-in-states/ar-BBxvWWX?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp

Hopefully Gov. Kasich will take another run at making this a right to work state. Public unions are close to being socialists.

Today's unions are all about getting the maximum benefit possible by doing the very least possible. It's no longer about "safety" or "fair wages". That notion left a few decades ago.

isadore

ppaw1999;1829746 wrote:http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-to-target-unions-expand-school-choice-in-states/ar-BBxvWWX?li=AA5a8k&ocid=spartandhp

Hopefully Gov. Kasich will take another run at making this a right to work state. Public unions are close to being socialists.

Hail Trump, gosh a ruddies do you think so. He did so well with his attempt to rob government workers of the right to collectively bargain. good old sb 5
election results yes 1,373,724 no 2,202,404

green for red against

isadore

CenterBHSFan;1829751 wrote:Today's unions are all about getting the maximum benefit possible by doing the very least possible. It's no longer about "safety" or "fair wages". That notion left a few decades ago.

Hail Trump, don't worry even if Kasich is deprived of his chance, our new President will screw over workers worker's incomes and safety. It will be enough to make even you happy.

ppaw1999

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/03/right_to_work_the_gop_and_2016.html

These numbers sound like a majority to me. In case you haven't noticed it is a new day and age Isadore. 2011 is distant memory.

isadore

ppaw1999;1829768 wrote:http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/03/right_to_work_the_gop_and_2016.html

These numbers sound like a majority to me. In case you haven't noticed it is a new day and age Isadore. 2011 is distant memory.

Hail Trump
you cite an article that says-in 2015 " "Summing up the chances for right-to-work in Ohio, Roegner says that, unfortunately, there does not appear to be an appetite, by either Ohio's governor or the general assembly, to advance such legislation at this time." gosh a ruddies now that is a ringing endorsement.
They know the feeling of the people of Ohio at the "dawn of a new age." Those right of work laws were passed by legislatures not the people of the state.

CenterBHSFan

With industry leaving Ohio in droves (steel and coal, predominately), I don't think too many people will be choosy at this point for a steady wage that is not in the service industry. Sure, you'll always have a crowd that wants more for less. But, as can be seen by the recent election, workers aren't listening so much to their unions anymore, voting against who the unions endorsed. So, I can see how they will not listen to union leaders' outrage at the opportunity of taking a non-union job.

isadore

Hail Trump
gosh a ruddies those right to work state must have it made which the highest incomes and the lowest unemployment

isadore

	[RIGHT]5.9[/RIGHT]	Montana	[RIGHT]4.0[/RIGHT]
Alaska	[RIGHT]6.8[/RIGHT]	Nebraska	[RIGHT]3.4[/RIGHT]
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Delaware	[RIGHT]4.3[/RIGHT]	North Carolina	[RIGHT]5.0[/RIGHT]
	[RIGHT] [/RIGHT]	North Dakota	[RIGHT]2.9[/RIGHT]
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Indiana	[RIGHT]4.2[/RIGHT]	Rhode Island	[RIGHT]5.3[/RIGHT]
Iowa	[RIGHT]3.8[/RIGHT]	South Carolina	[RIGHT]4.4[/RIGHT]
Kansas	[RIGHT]4.3[/RIGHT]	South Dakota	[RIGHT]2.7[/RIGHT]
Kentucky	[RIGHT]4.8[/RIGHT]	Tennessee	[RIGHT]4.8[/RIGHT]
Louisiana	[RIGHT]6.2[/RIGHT]	Texas	[RIGHT]4.6[/RIGHT]
Maine	[RIGHT]4.0[/RIGHT]	Utah	[RIGHT]3.1[/RIGHT]
Maryland	[RIGHT]4.2[/RIGHT]	Vermont	[RIGHT]3.2[/RIGHT]
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Mississippi	[RIGHT]5.7[/RIGHT]	Wisconsin	[RIGHT]4.1[/RIGHT]
Missouri	[RIGHT]4.7[/RIGHT]	Wyoming	[RIGHT]4.9[/RIGHT]

five of 10 with highest unemployment right to work states

CenterBHSFan

As opposed to Hillary Clinton who created 4 jobs in Benghazi. The most jobs created there since 1979.

fish82

ptown_trojans_1;1829682 wrote:Trump's tweet on nuclear weapons is causing a freak out storm on the left.
I don't buy it as he is limited on what he can do. The U.S. is limited to 1,550 deployed warheads under the New START Treaty and I highly, highly doubt he pulls out of it. If he does, we lose our ability to verify the Russians and they are also unchecked.

He also would be continuing the current Obama policy of replacing all three legs of the nuclear triad, which will cost about $1 trillion over the next 20 years. I'm all for that as they need replaced anyways.
He also said he may kill the F-35. Good luck. That sucker is so ingrained in the Air Force budget and in Congressional Districts, it may be reduced, but not killed. Also, it is the only nuclear capable fighter once the F-16 is phased out.

So, I wouldn't freak out. Plus, he has not received his nuclear war plans briefing he will get once he takes office. That usually changes President's views. I'll also hold out judgement until his actual Nuclear Posture Review, which should be out in early 2018.

Marillyn Hewson just stated that Lockheed is prepared to "substantially reduce" the cost of the F-35. Not an unreasonable assumption that this was Trump's aim in the first place.

Belly35

Right to work : To put it simply, a right to work law states that employees cannot be compelled to pay union fees and dues, even if they are covered under a union contract. The idea is that even if a union is operating in a given workplace, people shouldn’t be forced to join to keep their jobs, or ordered to join the union if other workers want to organize. Proponents of these laws say they protect the freedom of association, allowing people to opt out of union membership if they’re not interested.

The Right to Work law has very little or no factor in the economic growth of a state. To the Unions this is fear of losing political power and profiteering.

To assume that Right to Work laws has any effect on state economic growth, average state income salary average or employment figure is a myth provide by the Unions and Democrate party bullshit and those Union Nose Ring members who buy into it miss leading propaganda.

isadore

CenterBHSFan;1829839 wrote:As opposed to Hillary Clinton who created 4 jobs in Benghazi. The most jobs created there since 1979.

Hail Trump! And your raving has what to do with anything.

isadore

Belly35;1829842 wrote:Right to work : To put it simply, a right to work law states that employees cannot be compelled to pay union fees and dues, even if they are covered under a union contract. The idea is that even if a union is operating in a given workplace, people shouldn’t be forced to join to keep their jobs, or ordered to join the union if other workers want to organize. Proponents of these laws say they protect the freedom of association, allowing people to opt out of union membership if they’re not interested.

The Right to Work law has very little or no factor in the economic growth of a state. To the Unions this is fear of losing political power and profiteering.

To assume that Right to Work laws has any effect on state economic growth, average state income salary average or employment figure is a myth provide by the Unions and Democrate party bullshit and those Union Nose Ring members who buy into it miss leading propaganda.

Hail Trump! Obviously the term right to work is false advertising. It undermines the power of workers to bargain with corporations that have much greater resources. The one statement you made that was nearer the truth was "the Right to work law was very little or no factor in economic growth of a state." of course supposed economic growth from union busting is sold as a reason to support the insidious legislation. As can be seen it does not correlate with employment. What it does correlate with is a low income, the bottom of the income list is full of right to work states. They are also the states with the least education and shortest life expectancies. Right to work states are the pits.

bases_loaded

This will be a glorious 8 years

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ppaw1999

https://www.alec.org/article/right-to-work-in-2016/

Just like the election you can find articles to support whatever you want to believe.

isadore

bases_loaded;1829896 wrote:This will be a glorious 8 years

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Hail Trump. Waking up each morning happy that the world is still not a burned out cinder.

isadore

ppaw1999;1829899 wrote:https://www.alec.org/article/right-to-work-in-2016/

Just like the election you can find articles to support whatever you want to believe.

Hail Trump. Right you can use a series of lies from a bunch of paid hacks like ALEC or statistics from the Census and the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Belly35

isadore;1829888 wrote:Hail Trump! Obviously the term right to work is false advertising. It undermines the power of workers to bargain with corporations that have much greater resources. The one statement you made that was nearer the truth was "the Right to work law was very little or no factor in economic growth of a state." of course supposed economic growth from union busting is sold as a reason to support the insidious legislation. As can be seen it does not correlate with employment. What it does correlate with is a low income, the bottom of the income list is full of right to work states. They are also the states with the least education and shortest life expectancies. Right to work states are the pits.

when Unions due was predicated on the wages of hourly workers, the income level of average overall state population drop. The first reason was less employment, lay off and manufacturing closed. Union representation for safety, work environment condition and work related injury support is the function of Unions.

Belly35

isadore;1829916 wrote:Hail Trump. Waking up each morning happy that the world is still not a burned out cinder.

hey! snowflake grow a pair.

CenterBHSFan

isadore;1829887 wrote:Hail Trump! And your raving has what to do with anything.

Well, she has created more jobs than a union such as AFL-CIO has.

But the real answer is "nothing" :laugh:

isadore

CenterBHSFan;1829939 wrote:Well, she has created more jobs than a union such as AFL-CIO has.

But the real answer is "nothing" :laugh:

Hail Trump that is not a true statement.

isadore

Belly35;1829937 wrote:hey! snowflake grow a pair.

Hail Trump, from your comments on this thread you have demonstrated a fascination with men's testicles.

isadore

Belly35;1829936 wrote:when Unions due was predicated on the wages of hourly workers, the income level of average overall state population drop. The first reason was less employment, lay off and manufacturing closed. Union representation for safety, work environment condition and work related injury support is the function of Unions.

Hail Trump. And that is why the states with the highest incomes reject right to work laws while the states at the bottom of the list all have right to work laws. And 5 out of ten of the states with the highest unemployment rates have right to work laws.

bases_loaded

So 5 out of the 10 states with the highest unemployment do not have right to work laws?

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