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• QuakerOats

  Dr Winston O'Boogie;1810050 wrote:Typical "gottcha" journalism. They guy didn't know the name of specific city in Syria. There are a lot of cities in Syria that have played a part in this civil war. Not knowing the name of every single one does not equate to not being informed on the overall war.

  
  True ...............and now that the media sees Johnson pulling more votes away from Clinton than Trump, they will be pulling a lot more of this stuff on him to damage him, in hopes it helps Clinton. Sick bunch.
• sleeper

  

  I'll give Gary Johnson a pass on this one. It's definitely "gotcha" journalism; something HRC never has to deal with.
• QuakerOats

  Agreed. Wait till the debates, they will be pulling out these types of questions on Trump constantly.
• gut

  The vast majority of liberals pounding Johnson on this didn't know what Aleppo was, either, until they got the talking points memo telling them what a huge gaffe it was.
• SportsAndLady

  

  gut;1810076 wrote:The vast majority of liberals pounding Johnson on this didn't know what Aleppo was, either, until they got the talking points memo telling them what a huge gaffe it was.

  Exactly. It's disgusting seeing all these Hillary supporters say, "go smoke some more weed Gary, you're not Fit to be president!"
  
  If only he had a microphone in his ear like the scene in Old School so that he had all of the answers read to him for him to repeat. Smh
• O-Trap

  

  isadore;1810019 wrote:gosh a ruddies, now we have a candidate who can compete with the Donald for least informed candidate. On Morning Joe Gary Johnson was asked what he would do about the situation about Aleppo. With a look of complete bewilderment he queried, "What is Aleppo?" Way too much weed.

  Ladies and gentlemen, this response to spring-trap journalism has been brought to you by the poster supporting a candidate who didn't know what 'C' meant.
• O-Trap

  

  SportsAndLady;1810078 wrote:Exactly. It's disgusting seeing all these Hillary supporters say, "go smoke some more weed Gary, you're not Fit to be president!"
  
  If only he had a microphone in his ear like the scene in Old School so that he had all of the answers read to him for him to repeat. Smh

  I'm seeing it from some of the more ardent Trump supporters over social media as well. They're all shocked an appalled that Johnson didn't know the name of the city in question ... which of course came five minutes after they, themselves, learned the significance of the city in question.
• SportsAndLady

  

  O-Trap;1810080 wrote:I'm seeing it from some of the more ardent Trump supporters over social media as well. They're all shocked an appalled that Johnson didn't know the name of the city in question ... which of course came five minutes after they, themselves, learned the significance of the city in question.

  Yeah I'm seeing trump supporters, too. The first 3 tweets I saw had "Hillary" in their name so I assumed it was coming strongly from the Hillary camp. Seeing a lot of trump now too.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  isadore;1810060 wrote:gosh a ruddies, bull. The siege of Aleppo has been a central area of conflict. At the start of the conflict it was Syria's largest city with over 2 million people. The siege has been given extensive coverage. A well known photo from that siege.
  Calling it just another city in the war, is like calling Stalingrad another city in World War II or Gettysburg, just another town in our Civil War.
  
  Of course a dilettante space cadet like Gary Johnson is unaware of it but hey he will always have his apologists.

  I'd MUCH rather have a candidate who is not familiar with a name of a city than a candidate who quickly gets rid of 30,000 emails pertaining to her "daughter's wedding plans" so that authorities cannot see them, can't remember blatantly lying to the public - lies to not only her coworkers, investigators, the press but also to the public at large - hasn't driven herself anywhere in 10 years, has gotten her subordinates killed because she was 1.) Indecisive and 2.) Inept, stays married for political expediency because even she cannot excuse the terrific amount of times he has cheated on her and now he looks like he's been on penicillin the last 20 years and the adverse effects are now on display, we easily know when she's lying because her mouth is moving, stole items from the White House and - got caught - and therefore had to return at least some of them, pimped out the Lincoln bedroom in her own little side venture, prostitutes herself to Wall Street and then boldly claims that they are fucking the public, calls Trump a liar and states that he has something to hide when she has been a pathological liar for the past 30 years and let's not forget the email debacle (already mentioned above) when it comes to hiding something. The woman would lie about breathing if she thought it would save her ass concerning her ambitions.
  Oh her laundry list of insidious and shameful acts is much longer than what I've listed here, but we all get the general picture, regardless.
  
  And you've got something to say about Gary Johnson not being familiar with Allepo?
  
  Hillary Clinton isn't fit isn't/has never been fit to wipe the sweat off of Geraldine Ferraro's ass.
• Heretic

  

  gut;1810076 wrote:The vast majority of liberals pounding Johnson on this didn't know what Aleppo was, either, until they got the talking points memo telling them what a huge gaffe it was.

  No shit. I think this morning was the first time I'd specifically heard of Aleppo. Fortunately, we have Isadore to run a Google search and post a couple Wikipedia-esque lines about it along with a picture, while acting like he actually has some sort of in-depth knowledge about it in the best "lolfail" way possible. Between that and QQ's "everything the media is doing is a conspiracy against me!!!!!!" whining, this thread is more funny than usual today.
• sleeper

  

  CenterBHSFan;1810086 wrote:I'd MUCH rather have a candidate who is not familiar with a name of a city than a candidate who quickly gets rid of 30,000 emails pertaining to her "daughter's wedding plans" so that authorities cannot see them, can't remember blatantly lying to the public - lies to not only her coworkers, investigators, the press but also to the public at large - hasn't driven herself anywhere in 10 years, has gotten her subordinates killed because she was 1.) Indecisive and 2.) Inept, stays married for political expediency because even she cannot excuse the terrific amount of times he has cheated on her and now he looks like he's been on penicillin the last 20 years and the adverse effects are now on display, we easily know when she's lying because her mouth is moving, stole items from the White House and - got caught - and therefore had to return at least some of them, pimped out the Lincoln bedroom in her own little side venture, prostitutes herself to Wall Street and then boldly claims that they are fucking the public, calls Trump a liar and states that he has something to hide when she has been a pathological liar for the past 30 years and let's not forget the email debacle (already mentioned above) when it comes to hiding something. The woman would lie about breathing if she thought it would save her ass concerning her ambitions.
  Oh her laundry list of insidious and shameful acts is much longer than what I've listed here, but we all get the general picture, regardless.
  
  And you've got something to say about Gary Johnson not being familiar with Allepo?
  
  Hillary Clinton isn't fit isn't/has never been fit to wipe the sweat off of Geraldine Ferraro's ass.

  Rekt.
• QuakerOats

  CenterBHSFan;1810086 wrote:I'd MUCH rather have a candidate who is not familiar with a name of a city than a candidate who quickly gets rid of 30,000 emails pertaining to her "daughter's wedding plans" so that authorities cannot see them, can't remember blatantly lying to the public - lies to not only her coworkers, investigators, the press but also to the public at large - hasn't driven herself anywhere in 10 years, has gotten her subordinates killed because she was 1.) Indecisive and 2.) Inept, stays married for political expediency because even she cannot excuse the terrific amount of times he has cheated on her and now he looks like he's been on penicillin the last 20 years and the adverse effects are now on display, we easily know when she's lying because her mouth is moving, stole items from the White House and - got caught - and therefore had to return at least some of them, pimped out the Lincoln bedroom in her own little side venture, prostitutes herself to Wall Street and then boldly claims that they are fucking the public, calls Trump a liar and states that he has something to hide when she has been a pathological liar for the past 30 years and let's not forget the email debacle (already mentioned above) when it comes to hiding something. The woman would lie about breathing if she thought it would save her ass concerning her ambitions.
  Oh her laundry list of insidious and shameful acts is much longer than what I've listed here, but we all get the general picture, regardless.
  
  And you've got something to say about Gary Johnson not being familiar with Allepo?
  
  Hillary Clinton isn't fit isn't/has never been fit to wipe the sweat off of Geraldine Ferraro's ass.

  
  Post of the week .........get a beer
• O-Trap

  

  QuakerOats;1810092 wrote:

  CenterBHSFan;1810086 wrote:I'd MUCH rather have a candidate who is not familiar with a name of a city than a candidate who quickly gets rid of 30,000 emails pertaining to her "daughter's wedding plans" so that authorities cannot see them, can't remember blatantly lying to the public - lies to not only her coworkers, investigators, the press but also to the public at large - hasn't driven herself anywhere in 10 years, has gotten her subordinates killed because she was 1.) Indecisive and 2.) Inept, stays married for political expediency because even she cannot excuse the terrific amount of times he has cheated on her and now he looks like he's been on penicillin the last 20 years and the adverse effects are now on display, we easily know when she's lying because her mouth is moving, stole items from the White House and - got caught - and therefore had to return at least some of them, pimped out the Lincoln bedroom in her own little side venture, prostitutes herself to Wall Street and then boldly claims that they are fucking the public, calls Trump a liar and states that he has something to hide when she has been a pathological liar for the past 30 years and let's not forget the email debacle (already mentioned above) when it comes to hiding something. The woman would lie about breathing if she thought it would save her ass concerning her ambitions.
  Oh her laundry list of insidious and shameful acts is much longer than what I've listed here, but we all get the general picture, regardless.
  
  And you've got something to say about Gary Johnson not being familiar with Allepo?
  
  Hillary Clinton isn't fit isn't/has never been fit to wipe the sweat off of Geraldine Ferraro's ass.

  Post of the week .........get a beer

  CenterBHSFan, if you have Paypal, PM me. I'll buy you that beer.
• gut

  O-Trap;1810080 wrote:I'm seeing it from some of the more ardent Trump supporters over social media as well. They're all shocked an appalled that Johnson didn't know the name of the city in question ... which of course came five minutes after they, themselves, learned the significance of the city in question.

  That's even funnier. As if Trump could find Syria on a map.
• isadore

  Gosh a ruddies what a laugh. Someone on one of these threads mentioned that the contributors were better informed than the average American. Hardly, if they have not heard of Aleppo, its general knowledge for anyone watching the news on any semi regular basis. And it should be basic for any candidate for the Presidency. Of course Gary as the representative of the party of the selfish and self-indulgent cannot be expected to have even basic preparation for the position he aspires to. The hypocrisy of some of the folks on here is unbelievable. Mrs. Clinton has been found not culpable for any of the action at Benghazi by one Republican Congressional Committee after another and not criminally responsible for the “damned’ emails. If we are looking for dead by incompetence maybe we could check the hundreds of Americans dead in Lebanon because of Reagan's incompetence or the thousands of dead Americans because of George W. Bush's idiocy. But the site hypocrites do enjoy beating a dead horse. Then one of these hypocrites in her defense of Mr. Johnson attacks Hillary for holding her marriage together, attributing it to the worst possible motives with no real proof to back it up. So how about the marital relations of Gary Johnson.
  In 2005 Gary abandoned a sick wife,
  “Johnson, 52, said Tuesday that he initiated the separation and that he has been dating Deborah Werenko of Santa Fe, a family practice physician and divorced mother of three who is also a competitive athlete. Werenko on Wednesday confirmed the two are dating.
  Dee Johnson, 52, said Gary's actions are responsible for the split.
  "My heart is broken with what Gary's done to me but I'm a survivor and I'll make it through this."
  https://www.abqjournal.com//news/metro/394072metro09-29-05.htm
  A year later 2006 Dee Johnson was dead from hypertensive heart disease.
  What a charmer, you hypocrites rush to defend.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  It's just like you to attack ME rather than to admit that Hillary Clinton is a fuckup.
  
  She still isn't fit to wipe the sweat off of Ferraro's ass. She might have a rather extensive resume, but she shoots herself in the foot every single day.
  
  Again, know how to tell if Hillary Clinton is lying? Her mouth is moving.
• QuakerOats

  Yes, let's focus on Aleppo ....................................takes the din off of Benghazi.
• majorspark

  

  O-Trap;1810079 wrote:Ladies and gentlemen, this response to spring-trap journalism has been brought to you by the poster supporting a candidate who didn't know what 'C' meant.

  See Hillary is only feigning ignorance in order to avoid criminal prosecution. Lying to the FBI is a serious offense. So this is permissible. Gary eats pot brownies and was actually ignorant on the Aleppo matter and was honest about it. Unforgivable.
• isadore

  CenterBHSFan;1810126 wrote:It's just like you to attack ME rather than to admit that Hillary Clinton is a fuckup.
  
  She still isn't fit to wipe the sweat off of Ferraro's ass. She might have a rather extensive resume, but she shoots herself in the foot every single day.
  
  Again, know how to tell if Hillary Clinton is lying? Her mouth is moving.

  Gosh a ruddies the fact you are a hypocrite on the subject is obvious. In an election with a ill informed, hard hearted, superficial dilettante druggie running as a third party candidate and the party of Lincoln nominating a crooked pseudo entrepreneur who has made his fortune by ripping off others and now is demagogically pushing a racist agenda, I have no problem voting for Hillary Clinton. Whose background makes her much more qualified for the Presidency than Geraldine Ferraro was for the Vice Presidency. Your hatred of Mrs. Clinton is off putting. And gosh if you are going to make a joke about Mrs. Clinton, try not to use a 50 year retread about LBJ.
• QuakerOats

  I would think your tacit approval of her criminality makes you somewhat culpable.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Let's try this, then.
  
  I've listed some of the things that I don't like about Clinton. I've also stated numerous times that I cannot stand Trump. Therefore I'm willing to try something new and that means voting 3rd party.
  
  You have already listed what you don't like about Trump and Johnson. So, list some of the things about Clinton that you do not approve of?
• O-Trap

  

  isadore;1810125 wrote:Someone on one of these threads mentioned that the contributors were better informed than the average American. Hardly, if they have not heard of Aleppo, its general knowledge for anyone watching the news on any semi regular basis.

  
  
  Honestly, what do you think the average voter knows? You really think they know about what's going on in Aleppo? Compare answers on Aleppo with answers on which athlete didn't stand for the national anthem. The latter has been the one on the news. The former has been largely footnoted by news outlets.
  

  isadore;1810125 wrote:And it should be basic for any candidate for the Presidency.

  
  
  Do you know what else should be? Knowing what the letter 'C' means on a document for which you, as the Secretary of State, are responsible.
  

  isadore;1810125 wrote:Of course Gary as the representative of the party of the selfish and self-indulgent cannot be expected to have even basic preparation for the position he aspires to.

  
  
  Demonstrate how the party that wishes to give the greatest number of liberties to the greatest number of people is selfish and self-indulgent. I'll wait.
  

  isadore;1810125 wrote:TMrs. Clinton has been found not culpable for any of the action at Benghazi by one Republican Congressional Committee after another and not criminally responsible for the “damned’ emails.

  
  
  She was found not criminally responsible because, according to the investigation, it was not intentional, which means it was ineptitude. You can't charge her for being ill-equipped for the position, apparently, but that doesn't mean you should elect her as president.
  

  isadore;1810125 wrote:If we are looking for dead by incompetence maybe we could check the hundreds of Americans dead in Lebanon because of Reagan's incompetence or the thousands of dead Americans because of George W. Bush's idiocy. But the site hypocrites do enjoy beating a dead horse.

  
  
  I was rather vocal against GWB and did not vote for him for his second term (when I was legally able to vote). Your assumption is that those pointing out Clinton's incompetence are forgiving of Bush's. This is not the case.
  

  isadore;1810125 wrote:Then one of these hypocrites in her defense of Mr. Johnson attacks Hillary for holding her marriage together, attributing it to the worst possible motives with no real proof to back it up. So how about the marital relations of Gary Johnson.
  In 2005 Gary abandoned a sick wife,
  “Johnson, 52, said Tuesday that he initiated the separation and that he has been dating Deborah Werenko of Santa Fe, a family practice physician and divorced mother of three who is also a competitive athlete. Werenko on Wednesday confirmed the two are dating.
  Dee Johnson, 52, said Gary's actions are responsible for the split.
  "My heart is broken with what Gary's done to me but I'm a survivor and I'll make it through this."
  https://www.abqjournal.com//news/metro/394072metro09-29-05.htm
  A year later 2006 Dee Johnson was dead from hypertensive heart disease.
  What a charmer, you hypocrites rush to defend.

  I didn't hear anyone defending his marital choices. Nowhere did he break any laws within that, or at least not to my knowledge.
  
  Fortunately for JFK, one can be unfaithful to his or her spouse and still be able to competently fulfill the duties of the presidency.
• O-Trap

  

  majorspark;1810130 wrote:See Hillary is only feigning ignorance in order to avoid criminal prosecution. Lying to the FBI is a serious offense. So this is permissible. Gary eats pot brownies and was actually ignorant on the Aleppo matter and was honest about it. Unforgivable.

  I know she's likely feigning ignorance. My point, though, is that it's equally problematic for a person seeking the presidency.
  
  Either you knowingly mishandled confidential documents, which makes you ethically unfit, or you unknowingly mishandled confidential documents (because you didn't know the 'C' meant 'confidential'), which makes you incompetent. Either way, you're inadequate as a candidate for president.
• isadore

  QuakerOats;1810129 wrote:Yes, let's focus on Aleppo ....................................takes the din off of Benghazi.

  Gosh a ruddies she has been held not responsible for what happened at Benghazi by several Republican controlled Congressional Committees. And Aleppo is happening now.
• isadore

  Gosh a ruddies,
  

  O-Trap wrote: Honestly, what do you think the average voter knows? You really think they know about what's going on in Aleppo? Compare answers on Aleppo with answers on which athlete didn't stand for the national anthem. The latter has been the one on the news. The former has been largely footnoted by news outlets.

  
  I think they know more than Gary Johnson. It is a story that has been covered for an extended period of time. But just the picture of the five year old who was injured in the bombing was covered widely and the follow up death of his brother. The incident was not a foot note but a lead story.
  

  O-trap wrote: Do you know what else should be? Knowing what the letter 'C' means on a document for which you, as the Secretary of State, are responsible.

  
  On how many documents out of how many? And classified is where on the secrecy level.
  

  O-Trap wrote: Demonstrate how the party that wishes to give the greatest number of liberties to the greatest number of people is selfish and self-indulgent. I'll wait.

  No problem. Selfish-cut on the programs that benefit the poor, sick, the handicapped and the aged so they can pay less taxes. Of course a program that benefits the rich at the expense of those in need. And what do they sell, lets legalize drugs, now that is self-indulgent. But of course we will cut any program to help addicts.
  

  O-Trap wrote: She was found not criminally responsible because, according to the investigation, it was not intentional, which means it was ineptitude. You can't charge her for being ill-equipped for the position, apparently, but that doesn't mean you should elect her as president.

  Not responsible. She lead an agency with several thousand employees and hundreds of facilities. She did nothing inept in her handling of this situation. Bush and Reagan’s failures that lead to death were much more examples of ineptitude.
  

  O-trap wrote: I didn't hear anyone defending his marital choices. Nowhere did he break any laws within that, or at least not to my knowledge. Fortunately for JFK, one can be unfaithful to his or her spouse and still be able to competently fulfill the duties of the presidency.

  
  Center BHS attacked her marital status to excuse Johnson. This is an attack on her marital status.
  

  CenterBHS wrote: 2.) Inept, stays married for political expediency because even she cannot excuse the terrific amount of times he has cheated on her and now he looks like he's been on penicillin the last 20 years and the adverse effects are now on display,

  
  
  Johnson is a slime bag as can be seen in his treatment of his now deceased ex-wife. JFK is much overrated President. All show, not much real accomplishment. His foreign policy decisions were horrible. His domestic successes few.