Trump vs. Hillary (NO OTHER OPTIONS)

• GOONx19

  

  sleeper;1810939 wrote:None of those are a big enough concern to vote Donald Trump as President. He is a national embarrassment at best and has no business being President.

  This. I would vote for anyone in either primary over Trump.
• Spock

  

  sleeper;1810939 wrote:None of those are a big enough concern to vote Donald Trump as President. He is a national embarrassment at best and has no business being President.

  same thing could be said about Obama 8 years ago.
• SportsAndLady

  

  I'm not voting for Trump. He would not be a good president.
  
  That being said, Hillary sucks. I might just write in "hingle mccringleberry" and call it a day.
• ernest_t_bass

  

  Gary Johnson
• CenterBHSFan

  

  More from Colin Powell's emails:
  

  "I told you about the gig I lost at a University because she so overcharged them they came under heat and couldn’t any [sic] fees for awhile. I should send her a bill."

  "Everything HRC touches she kind of screws up with hubris."

• like_that

  

  The hubris quote is spot on.
• rocketalum

  Crimson streak;1810942 wrote:I know the Harrisburg area is probably the 3rd biggest area in the state and I'd definitely say by far that it is mostly trump
  
  
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  I think it will be interesting to see how the results actually turn out. As Sleeper mentioned rally attendance is typically a poor indicator of election day success. Specifically with Trump I'm really interested to see how much rally attendance is based on witnessing the spectacle and how much will translate in to votes.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1810939 wrote:None of those are a big enough concern to vote Donald Trump as President. He is a national embarrassment at best and has no business being President.

  That is simply ludicrous. The most important issues we face as a nation, and you shirk them off. No wonder this country is tanking.
• QuakerOats

  Trump train rolled through Canton last night in impressive fashion. Tremendous crowd; tons of Deplorables.
• sleeper

  

  Spock;1810961 wrote:same thing could be said about Obama 8 years ago.

  If you can't see the difference between Obama and Trump, don't vote.
  
  I would re-elect Obama in a heartbeat over the trash that's in this election.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1810997 wrote:That is simply ludicrous. The most important issues we face as a nation, and you shirk them off. No wonder this country is tanking.

  The most important issue we face as a nation is not electing Donald Trump.
  
  Next time, try voting in a real candidate instead of a national embarrassment like Trump. This is entirely on the fault of the Republican party.
• Automatik

  

  Has The Donald laid out his alternative to Obamacare?
  
  Can someone please provide a slanted article?
• sleeper

  

  Automatik;1811003 wrote:Has The Donald laid out his alternative to Obamacare?
  
  Can someone please provide a slanted article?

  We're going to abolish it and fix healthcare. It'll be great.
• sleeper

  

  Also, I don't want a super liberal court but if I have to choose between a super liberal court or a court of conservatives appointed by Donald Trump, I'm picking the liberal court. At least I can sleep at night knowing a woman's right to choose is in safe hands.
• like_that

  

  sleeper;1811005 wrote:Also, I don't want a super liberal court but if I have to choose between a super liberal court or a court of conservatives appointed by Donald Trump, I'm picking the liberal court. At least I can sleep at night knowing a woman's right to choose is in safe hands.

  Women will get more than that don't worry.
• rocketalum

  Agreed. I don't really want a wacky liberal court but I also don't want a Conservative Christian Theocracy of a court either. If forced to choose I'm going liberal.
• Heretic

  

  rocketalum;1811016 wrote:Agreed. I don't really want a wacky liberal court but I also don't want a Conservative Christian Theocracy of a court either. If forced to choose I'm going liberal.

  Yeah, that's another "lesser of two evils" thing. For all the whining QQ and others do about "progressives", they're still preferable to anything resembling the religious right.
• like_that

  

  Heretic;1811017 wrote:Yeah, that's another "lesser of two evils" thing. For all the whining QQ and others do about "progressives", they're still preferable to anything resembling the religious right.

  The problem is they are not progressive anymore. They are regressive.
  
  I'm not a trump supporter, but for me the one consolation to him winning would be the justices appointed from the right. They are more favorable to the constitution.
  
  It's too bad the SCOTUS is no longer used the way it was meant to be. You have just justices forcing their skewed interpretations of the constitution and making decisions that impact us for a lifetime. There should be term limits on the SCOTUS. Not to mention, why the fuck are we letting these 75+ year old people making these decisions for our country?
• QuakerOats

  Automatik;1811003 wrote:Has The Donald laid out his alternative to Obamacare?
  
  Can someone please provide a slanted article?

  
  The republicans in congress have multiple plans that have never seen the light of day under the Marxist regime currently occupying the WH. The bills to repeal and replace will be signed on Day 1, per Trump's speech in Canton last night.
• QuakerOats

  like_that;1811018 wrote:The problem is they are not progressive anymore. They are regressive.
  
  I'm not a trump supporter, but for me the one consolation to him winning would be the justices appointed from the right. They are more favorable to the constitution.
  
  It's too bad the SCOTUS is no longer used the way it was meant to be. You have just justices forcing their skewed interpretations of the constitution and making decisions that impact us for a lifetime. There should be term limits on the SCOTUS. Not to mention, why the fuck are we letting these 75+ year old people making these decisions for our country?

  
  Thank you. Unfortunately some of the younger progressives here have little understanding of the long-term implications of liberal courts; not just the supremes, but all federal benches and appeals courts. They have the power to literally overturn the voices of the States -- so you better have judges that are restrained and do not legislate from the bench. Trump will nominate/appoint those who will not legislate from the bench; Clinton will nominate/appoint radical leftists who will continue to impose their cultural Marixism upon The People, regardless of what elected legislatures do. Very, very stark difference here, and one with effects that last decades or more.
• Automatik

  

  QuakerOats;1811019 wrote:The republicans in congress have multiple plans that have never seen the light of day under the Marxist regime currently occupying the WH. The bills to repeal and replace will be signed on Day 1, per Trump's speech in Canton last night.

  I'm interested to see the outline of the alternative, specifically from Trump. Can you provide a link?
• sleeper

  

  rocketalum;1811016 wrote:Agreed. I don't really want a wacky liberal court but I also don't want a Conservative Christian Theocracy of a court either. If forced to choose I'm going liberal.

  Same boat for me. I like a 5-4 court, 5 liberals, 4 conservatives.
  
  I am scared of the next court being too extreme in either direction.
• QuakerOats

  Automatik;1811023 wrote:I'm interested to see the outline of the alternative, specifically from Trump. Can you provide a link?

  http://abetterway.speaker.gov/_assets/pdf/ABetterWay-HealthCare-PolicyPaper.pdf
  
  This is what he would be presented with; he said last night he would sign such legislation on Day 1.
• sleeper

  

  like_that;1811018 wrote:The problem is they are not progressive anymore. They are regressive.
  
  I'm not a trump supporter, but for me the one consolation to him winning would be the justices appointed from the right. They are more favorable to the constitution.
  
  It's too bad the SCOTUS is no longer used the way it was meant to be. You have just justices forcing their skewed interpretations of the constitution and making decisions that impact us for a lifetime. There should be term limits on the SCOTUS. Not to mention, why the fuck are we letting these 75+ year old people making these decisions for our country?

  It certainly feels that way sometimes.
  
  The only positive I can see with Trump is he will shake up the status quo. We've become a society that shuns any reasonable debate about any issue because we care more about feez than realz and Trump will definitely hammer the hell out of that. The issue is, I don't think Trump in 8 years is going to fix feelz over realz and could potentially make it much worse in the future because society has become of clusterfuck of stupid people breeding and voting. They aren't going to change because the President isn't PC.
• FatHobbit

  

  sleeper;1811030 wrote:society has become of clusterfuck of stupid people breeding and voting.

  I don't really think that's a new trend