Republican debates/primaries.

• sleeper

  

  rrfan;1789274 wrote:Funny sleeper...because I must be uneducated because I have a different view than you.
  
  Yes I graduated college and yes I have a very good paying job and own my own house and all of the other things you will come to next.
  
  I don't think Trump knows everything but I think what makes him a better candidate than the rest is that I have more confidence in him to surround himself with people that will make a difference. The best leaders I have know in my life may not know everything but put people in positions to make his or her company successful.
  
  Lets also be clear there is no way in hell I would vote for Bernie and or Hillary. Kasich has no chance to win and I don't like Ted Cruz. I am not saying he is the best candidate ever or anything but look at what is out there. It is a mess.

  Like a real college? Because wherever you went should have its accreditation revoked.
  
  Did you read any of the transcripts that Ptown posted? Have you watched Trump speak at all this year? He's a complete moron with no substance and you buy it up because you think he's a good businessman. LOL
• QuakerOats

  ptown_trojans_1;1789269 wrote: Guy may be a good community agitator, but he is an idiot on anything regarding foreign relations.

  
  
  fify
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;1789297 wrote:fify

  Ohhh burn.
  Way to add to the discussion and deflect from Trump. I didn't know Obama was running again? What's he got to do with this?
• queencitybuckeye

  ptown_trojans_1;1789302 wrote:Ohhh burn.
  Way to add to the discussion and deflect from Trump. I didn't know Obama was running again? What's he got to do with this?

  The right is so determined to beat Obama, they'll be 2 years into a Clinton presidency before they notice.
• HitsRus

  

  rrfan;1789274 wrote:Funny sleeper...because I must be uneducated because I have a different view than you.
  
  Yes I graduated college and yes I have a very good paying job and own my own house and all of the other things you will come to next.
  
  I don't think Trump knows everything but I think what makes him a better candidate than the rest is that I have more confidence in him to surround himself with people that will make a difference. The best leaders I have know in my life may not know everything but put people in positions to make his or her company successful.
  
  Lets also be clear there is no way in hell I would vote for Bernie and or Hillary. Kasich has no chance to win and I don't like Ted Cruz. I am not saying he is the best candidate ever or anything but look at what is out there. It is a mess.

  I agree with the assertion that good leaders surround themselves with good people, but with whom he has surrounded himself with thus far, doesn't bear that out. That foreign policy team he announced is shaky at best and laden with controversial opinions. that strike at the heart of strategic alliances that have kept the world pretty stable for 75 years. Whether we or the rest of the world wants to admit it, the United States and its commitment to freedom and human rights, and the ability to back that commitment up with force or the credible threat of force, is what keeps skirmishes small, and reigns in the territorial ambitions of would be aggressors. One only has to look at what has happened to world stability as the BHO capitulation and apology tour has progressed....the loss in credibility of American power, drawing lines in the sand and then refusing to do anything, the rise of ISIS right under our noses. etc etc. A Trump election may be worse, in the opposite extreme. Suddenly, allies that have long counted on us, can no longer depend on our support and strike out on their own, and that may not be in American interests. Worse, everything points to Trump being a loose cannon....and it should be pretty obvious that he doesn't take to criticism very well. The world is pretty nervous about his prospects as President, and it's not good when things get jittery.
  
  All of this is speculation, of course, because all signs point to Trump losing by a landslide to whoever wins the Democratic nod.
• FatHobbit

  

  HitsRus;1789319 wrote:Whether we or the rest of the world wants to admit it, the United States and its commitment to freedom and human rights, and the ability to back that commitment up with force or the credible threat of force, is what keeps skirmishes small, and reigns in the territorial ambitions of would be aggressors. One only has to look at what has happened to world stability as the BHO capitulation and apology tour has progressed....the loss in credibility of American power, drawing lines in the sand and then refusing to do anything, the rise of ISIS right under our noses. etc etc.

  I don't want to support Obama or Trump, but the US has a history of doing what it thinks is in its best interests. We supported alqaeda against the USSR in Afghanistan. We supported Sadam Hussein against Iran. We supported Cuba against Castro until we left them with no support. We have propped up dictators in the middle east to keep oil flowing. I'm sure there are plenty more examples I'm not thinking of right now.
• rrfan

  

  sleeper;1789280 wrote:Like a real college? Because wherever you went should have its accreditation revoked.
  
  Did you read any of the transcripts that Ptown posted? Have you watched Trump speak at all this year? He's a complete moron with no substance and you buy it up because you think he's a good businessman. LOL

  So since you are so smart and nobody else is able to have an opinion...who should be the next president? All the choices suck really!
• iclfan2

  

  SportsAndLady;1788414 wrote:Not to sound insensitive but Belgium let's in all these Syrian refugees, what the hell did you expect to happen? This was unfortunately inevitable.

  Look where else Belgium failed. Being lefty cry babies about enhanced interrogation techniques got a bunch of their people killed.
  
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/brussels-attacks-were-a-terrorist-interrogation-failure/2016/03/28/a5949ed8-f4e5-11e5-9804-537defcc3cf6_story.html?tid=ss_tw
• Automatik

  

  rrfan;1789349 wrote:So since you are so smart and nobody else is able to have an opinion...who should be the next president? All the choices suck really!

  Thoughts on those posted transcripts?
• QuakerOats

  ptown_trojans_1;1789302 wrote:Ohhh burn.
  Way to add to the discussion and deflect from Trump. I didn't know Obama was running again? What's he got to do with this?

  The point is, Trump would be far better than obama (and clinton). It was not a deflection, but you knew that.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;1789354 wrote:The point is, Trump would be far better than obama (and clinton). It was not a deflection, but you knew that.

  So, you would be ok with a radical departure from the U.S. Foreign Policy since 1945?
  
  I'm failing to see how it would be better. There is no evidence, at least none as of yet.
  What's your view of the transcripts?
  Is that something that you support?
• Automatik

  

  QuakerOats;1789354 wrote:The point is, Trump would be far better than obama (and clinton). It was not a deflection, but you knew that.

  Holy batshit crazy.
  
  The point is, that's your opinion. Don't spin it as fact.
• sleeper

  

  rrfan;1789349 wrote:So since you are so smart and nobody else is able to have an opinion...who should be the next president? All the choices suck really!

  Not Trump.
  
  I will vote for Hillary if possible and if Sanders somehow gets the Dem nod, I will vote 3rd party because I view both of those candidates as straight garbage.
• sleeper

  

  Automatik;1789351 wrote:Thoughts on those posted transcripts?

  I'm glad you keep asking this question. I'd love for a Trump supporter to read through them. They are an absolute joke.
• Automatik

  

  Not surprised it's being ignored. I read them both.
  
  I've also asked one of my best friends what he thought. He's a major Trump supporter. He also deflected...very Trump-like.
• iclfan2

  

  sleeper;1789361 wrote:I will vote for Hillary if possible

  I get the Trump hate, I think he is a douche bag myself, but no real conservative would ever vote for Hillary. Vote for Gary Johnson all you want, but a vote for Hillary should be embarrassing.
• Automatik

  

  I'm going with Johnson, but it doesn't really matter. NY will be blue....forever.
• rrfan

  

  sleeper;1789361 wrote:Not Trump.
  
  I will vote for Hillary if possible and if Sanders somehow gets the Dem nod, I will vote 3rd party because I view both of those candidates as straight garbage.

  Now you lost me.....How on this earth could you even remotely consider voting for Hillary! Get off your high horse. You can not like trump if you want to...just like I can think that Hillary is the antichrist. The good thing is I don't care what your opinion is and you are allowed to have it.
  
  
  I will answer the transcripts questions...yes I read some and not all. Trump is all over the place...that is how he really is from what I have seen for the most part and I think that speaks more to the other candidates than him. He is all over the place and I still view him as way better than Hillary and Kasich and Bernie have no chance. I personally think Ted Cruz is a slimy candidate that I would never trust. So there you have it....I go with a business man that I think will help protect people's money better than what has been going on with the train wreck that is Obama.
• rrfan

  

  iclfan2;1789368 wrote:I get the Trump hate, I think he is a douche bag myself, but no real conservative would ever vote for Hillary. Vote for Gary Johnson all you want, but a vote for Hillary should be embarrassing.

  Exactly!
• Automatik

  

  rrfan;1789371 wrote:Now you lost me.....How on this earth could you even remotely consider voting for Hillary! Get off your high horse. You can not like trump if you want to...just like I can think that Hillary is the antichrist. The good thing is I don't care what your opinion is and you are allowed to have it.
  
  
  I will answer the transcripts questions...yes I read some and not all. Trump is all over the place...that is how he really is from what I have seen for the most part and I think that speaks more to the other candidates than him. He is all over the place and I still view him as way better than Hillary and Kasich and Bernie have no chance. I personally think Ted Cruz is a slimy candidate that I would never trust. So there you have it....I go with a business man that I think will help protect people's money better than what has been going on with the train wreck that is Obama.

  
  How has Obama failed to protect your money? How will Trump change it for the better?
• QuakerOats

  Automatik;1789375 wrote:How has Obama failed to protect your money? How will Trump change it for the better?

  
  obama --- "protect your money". Comical. He has stolen $9 trillion of 'your money'. Not only has he not protected your money; he has indebted you and your kids and your kids' kids with horrific debt of unprecedented proportion.
  
  
  
  Carry on ..........
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Again, I did not know Obama was running again?
  What's he got to do with it?
  
  That like bringing up Bush in 2008.
• Automatik

  

  QuakerOats;1789380 wrote:obama --- "protect your money". Comical. He has stolen $9 trillion of 'your money'. Not only has he not protected your money; he has indebted you and your kids and your kids' kids with horrific debt of unprecedented proportion.
  
  
  
  Carry on ..........

  I'm asking for specifics. If you're able to answer my question, feel free. I'll be waiting.
• Heretic

  

  Automatik;1789375 wrote:How has Obama failed to protect your money? How will Trump change it for the better?

  I say we just sit back and laugh while the people who trashed others for voting for Obama based on vague promises that never had much of a chance happening "HOPE AND CHANGE LOLFAIL" are now trying to convince themselves that another guy who offers nothing besides "tough talk" and vague promises that probably will never happen is either a viable option or something that NEEDS. TO. HAPPEN.
  
  Partisan politics for the win!
• Automatik

  

  Heretic;1789388 wrote:I say we just sit back and laugh while the people who trashed others for voting for Obama based on vague promises that never had much of a chance happening "HOPE AND CHANGE LOLFAIL" are now trying to convince themselves that another guy who offers nothing besides "tough talk" and vague promises that probably will never happen is either a viable option or something that NEEDS. TO. HAPPEN.
  
  Partisan politics for the win!

  Nailed it.
  
  Have you watched the documentary "The Culture High"? It touches on the BS that is our current political system.