Hillary Clinton
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QuakerOatsBoatShoes;1740900 wrote:The only people who think that are the talk rafio listeners and people who read drudge.
I do both at times, and I think she can easily win .............that's how stupid the electorate has become in just 8 years. -
BoatShoes
I should have also included republican voters who are easily persuaded by the more hardcore republican voters who listen to talk radio and read drudge.like_that;1740902 wrote:I do neither, and it's pretty apparent she has quite the history of being a suspicious slime ball. Just stop.
People who don't post on politics forums don't believe in the grand hillary corruption saga. Sorry.
But hey the pubs started this narrative in the 90's and it's all they got when a guy like Donald Trump is capable of leading the best and deepest field of candidates for even a day. -
SportsAndLady
She flip flops on everything (see: gay marriage). She says what her listeners want to hear. She doesn't "believe" in anything. She's basically Obama 2.0 and we all know he was a colossal failure.BoatShoes;1740906 wrote:I should have also included republican voters who are easily persuaded by the more hardcore republican voters who listen to talk radio and read drudge.
People who don't post on politics forums don't believe in the grand hillary corruption saga. Sorry.
But hey the pubs started this narrative in the 90's and it's all they got when a guy like Donald Trump is capable of leading the best and deepest field of candidates for even a day.
That being said, most of the candidates have those qualities. So we are basically screwed. -
Heretic
Pretty much. I think I've said this before, but I think one of the ugly truths of today's 24/7/365 news/blog cycle where everything gets endlessly talked about, blown out of proportion and skewered on a daily basis is that it really dilutes the quality of the major political field to where you'll either get people running on their name due to a sense of entitlement towards being in power (Bush, Clinton); people who are, for lack of a better word, attention whores eager to see their names in big bold headlines for a few years (Obama, Trump) or people who represent a more fringe group who see this as a perfect chance to get their views forced on the mainstream (ie: religious right candidates, Nader).SportsAndLady;1740912 wrote:She flip flops on everything (see: gay marriage). She says what her listeners want to hear. She doesn't "believe" in anything. She's basically Obama 2.0 and we all know he was a colossal failure.
That being said, most of the candidates have those qualities. So we are basically screwed. -
BoatShoes
I agree she is a "flip flopper" but I don't think americans much care. The fact is that a lot of Americans flip flopped on gay marriage...the iraq war...etc.SportsAndLady;1740912 wrote:She flip flops on everything (see: gay marriage). She says what her listeners want to hear. She doesn't "believe" in anything. She's basically Obama 2.0 and we all know he was a colossal failure.
That being said, most of the candidates have those qualities. So we are basically screwed.
I mean hell she is chasing sanders to the left when we know she is not really a populist liberal.
If Americans wanted die-hard principled non flip floppers they could always vote for guys like kucinich, sanders, buchanan, ron paul, ted cruz, rick santorum, etc. -
HitsRus
This.People who don't post on politics forums don't believe in the grand hillary corruption saga. Sorry.
Mainly, because the MSM runs interference for her. With their assistance, Democratic strategists have managed to paint all republicans as intolerant right wing nut jobs. More people believe that, than the more probable questions of Clinton integrity. Under the circumstances, she is very electable. -
majorspark
Hillary is not just a flip flopper but a repeated proven verifiable liar. A certified teller of tall tales. She does not have an ounce of integrity. Yet tens of millions of Americans will vote for her. -
majorspark
Not to mention a fool. Lavrov probably still has the reset button on his desk and presses it every time he needs a good laugh.
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fish82
Whoever manages to emerge from the current Royal Rumble.BoatShoes;1740901 wrote:Who do you think is going to be president? -
like_that
You're exactly what is wrong with this country. You see things in either red or blue.BoatShoes;1740906 wrote:I should have also included republican voters who are easily persuaded by the more hardcore republican voters who listen to talk radio and read drudge.
People who don't post on politics forums don't believe in the grand hillary corruption saga. Sorry.
But hey the pubs started this narrative in the 90's and it's all they got when a guy like Donald Trump is capable of leading the best and deepest field of candidates for even a day.
I don't give a fuck what republicans say. I don't label myself as a republican. I was too young in the early 90s to swim in the "republican Clinton narrative." I can simply see with my own eyes that Hillary is a fucking liar and lacks the integrity to be a president. There are so many red flags that with the 24 hour news cycle we tend to forget some of them. She is also a tremendous hypocrite with her feminism narrative. She bitches and moans about women "inequality" (I use that term very loosely) and yet she still keeps her husbands last name for political gain after he fucked a fat troll behind her back in the WH. Great example for one of the most recognizable woman in this country /sarcasm. I know plenty of people who are 100x smarter than you are and don't post on forums that would agree with me. If Hillary were a legitimate candidate that lined up with my views I would easily vote for her, unfortunately she isn't and integrity is a huge issue with me. Keep being delusional of opposite legitimate views and drinking that kool aid though. -
like_that
And boat shoes is swimming in that kool aid. It brings the lulz.HitsRus;1740920 wrote:This.
Mainly, because the MSM runs interference for her. With their assistance, Democratic strategists have managed to paint all republicans as intolerant right wing nut jobs. More people believe that, than the more probable questions of Clinton integrity. Under the circumstances, she is very electable. -
fish82
Yes, I know the polling organization leans right. Still, the fact that Madame Secretary is currently 8 points underwater in states Obie carried with 52 total electoral votes is....significant.
http://www.americancrossroads.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/AC-HRC-Survey-July-Topline.pdf -
BoatShoes
Did I hurt a nerve? No reason take get so personal. I actually don't see things red or blue as I am aware that 80% of America who does not give two shits about politics does not believe that hillary is a corrupt scumbag. Take it or leave it but that's the world you are living in.like_that;1740962 wrote:You're exactly what is wrong with this country. You see things in either red or blue.
I don't give a fuck what republicans say. I don't label myself as a republican. I was too young in the early 90s to swim in the "republican Clinton narrative." I can simply see with my own eyes that Hillary is a fucking liar and lacks the integrity to be a president. There are so many red flags that with the 24 hour news cycle we tend to forget some of them. She is also a tremendous hypocrite with her feminism narrative. She bitches and moans about women "inequality" (I use that term very loosely) and yet she still keeps her husbands last name for political gain after he fucked a fat troll behind her back in the WH. Great example for one of the most recognizable woman in this country /sarcasm. I know plenty of people who are 100x smarter than you are and don't post on forums that would agree with me. If Hillary were a legitimate candidate that lined up with my views I would easily vote for her, unfortunately she isn't and integrity is a huge issue with me. Keep being delusional of opposite legitimate views and drinking that kool aid though.
And yeah yeah we know all about you folks who always vote republican but always carefully point out "I'm not a Republican." -
BoatShoes
Care to venture a guess on ho you think wins?fish82;1740956 wrote:Whoever manages to emerge from the current Royal Rumble. -
BoatShoes
Sadly the opposite is true. The mainstrm media gets tricked into chasing tall tales about the clintons but right wing demagogues too often...i.e. Vince Foster.HitsRus;1740920 wrote:This.
Mainly, because the MSM runs interference for her. With their assistance, Democratic strategists have managed to paint all republicans as intolerant right wing nut jobs. More people believe that, than the more probable questions of Clinton integrity. Under the circumstances, she is very electable.
And the right wing media has the ultimate cop out prepared every time they don't harp on the cries of wolf "teh librul media biAs!"
Obama couldn't really handle the charade and whined about Fox. Hillary and Bill know how this works. -
fish82
I'll probably wait until the field is narrowed down to single digits lol.BoatShoes;1740981 wrote:Care to venture a guess on ho you think wins?
I suppose smart money is on Jeb, in which case I'll be moving to Costa Rica.
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like_that
BoatShoes;1740979 wrote:Did I hurt a nerve? No reason take get so personal. I actually don't see things red or blue as I am aware that 80% of America who does not give two shits about politics does not believe that hillary is a corrupt scumbag. Take it or leave it but that's the world you are living in.
And yeah yeah we know all about you folks who always vote republican but always carefully point out "I'm not a Republican."
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Spock
the 2 most presidential candidates are Walker and Bush. None of the Washington insiders are presidential. My guess is that Walker and Bush will take Rubio or Paul as their running mates.BoatShoes;1740981 wrote:Care to venture a guess on ho you think wins? -
QuakerOats"THE HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE investigating the 2012 Benghazi attack has not received any emails between Hillary Clinton and her State Department staff for May and June 2012, a time when the security situation in Libya deteriorated, culminating in a bomb attack on the US Consulate three months before the assault that left four dead."
The Clinton coverups and the IRS coverup make Watergate look like child's play. -
QuakerOats"DONATIONS TO THE Clinton Foundation by Swiss bank UBS reportedly increased tenfold after Hillary Clinton intervened to settle a dispute with the IRS early in her tenure as secretary of state."
The corruption and criminality of the Clintons knows no bounds. -
Apple
Potential sticky mess for Clinton from Huma Weiner.
Huma Abedin, wife of Anthony Weiner and long-time HRC aide, looking like a liability to Clinton.
Email server situation is not going away...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/4/hillary-clinton-aide-huma-abedin-emerges-as-potent/ -
Belly35
Bill had Monica, Hillary has Weiner .....Apple;1744329 wrote:Potential sticky mess for Clinton from Huma Weiner.
Huma Abedin, wife of Anthony Weiner and long-time HRC aide, looking like a liability to Clinton.
Email server situation is not going away...
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/4/hillary-clinton-aide-huma-abedin-emerges-as-potent/ -
MontyBrunswick
I've always liked and respected Hillary. It's still early, but if she's in the final running she'll likely get my vote -
like_that
We know how low your bar is set when it comes to integrity and morals, so this isn't surprising.MontyBrunswick;1744385 wrote:I've always liked and respected Hillary. It's still early, but if she's in the final running she'll likely get my vote