Hillary Clinton

• Footwedge

  believer;1731058 wrote:I won't deny that "W" was shaky, but you actually thought Kerry was a better choice?

  Absolutely.
• Footwedge

  BTW...I apologize for high jacking this thread on the malfeasance of Hillary Clinton. Unlike the Iraq War, I have not done my due diligence in researching the subject so I am not qualified enough to make comments. I will start a new thread if anybody wants to discuss the mission creep of the Iraq war. I flew off the handle due to Jfog and his pointed rant against ytowngirl...who actually served our country.
• SportsAndLady

  

  Footwedge;1731103 wrote:BTW...I apologize for high jacking this thread on the malfeasance of Hillary Clinton. Unlike the Iraq War, I have not done my due diligence in researching the subject so I am not qualified enough to make comments. I will start a new thread if anybody wants to discuss the mission creep of the Iraq war. I flew off the handle due to Jfog and his pointed rant against ytowngirl...who actually served our country.

  You're not qualified enough to make any comments on any subject but yet you still do.
  
  Sounds like you are trying to avoid talking about a democrat's fuck up. A common trait of a liberal.
  
  
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• gut

  superman;1731066 wrote:Why can't liberals just own what they are? Why do they always feel the need to lie about it? If being liberal is so detestable, why do they continue to be one?

  Because ideology is never wrong, and the beauty of being a liberal is it's always someone else's fault.
• Footwedge

  SportsAndLady;1731104 wrote:You're not qualified enough to make any comments on any subject but yet you still do.
  
  Sounds like you are trying to avoid talking about a democrat's fuck up. A common trait of a liberal.
  
  
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  Not qualified? Come over to my thread and bring it on. You stand no chance.
• superman

  Footwedge;1731100 wrote:So, if I'm a liberal, then why did I vote for Reagan twice, Bush 41, Ross Perot and Bob Dole? Answer the question. Go.

  You're a liar?
• CenterBHSFan

  

  Footie, I never agreed or disagreed or went on a new tangent. I simply replied to YOUR words:
  

  Don't know about ISIS, but bin Ladin made it clear in several of his orations. Bin Ladin listed 2 reasons for forming Al Quada.
  
  1. Unbridled one sided financial and military support for Israel.
  2. The occupation of the US military in Islamic countries.

  You posted that like it was a shining beacon of knowledge to the masses. Like "If Bin Laden said it, it must be true!" That is what I was responding to. And then you fly off the handle and say that I'm (along with everybody else who replied to you) was ... ignorant.
  Not everybody is going to agree to the same things in here. Even liberal with liberal and conservatives with conservatives. Replying with jackassery is only going to make it worse.
• Footwedge

  superman;1731160 wrote:You're a liar?

  Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? Any idea at all? You are a perfect example as to why I don't come here anymore. Because I didn't like Bush's Iraq policy..I am by default, a liberal?
  
  
  Is Pat Buchanan a liberal? Is Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, Treasury chief of the Reagan administration a liberal? Is former defense Secretary Chuck Hagel a liberal? Is Lt. Colonel Karen Kwiatkowski, a self described "Goldwater Republican" a liberal? She worked in the department of the propaganda dept. of The Office of Special plans. Is Ron Paul a liberal? How about life long Republican Andrew Bacevich...is he a liberal?
  
  If I were you, I would read a book or 2 on a subject before I spew such utter nonsense.
• superman

  Lulz.
• HitsRus

  

  She worked in the department of the propaganda dept. of The Office of Special plans.

  Way back when, it was a hush hush covert office that even the President didn't know about.....now it's called MSNBC!
• jmog

  Footwedge;1730579 wrote:Irrelevant to the thread ..agreed. People being dumber for reading it? Hardly. How many Americans still give Bush a free pass for the loss of American soldiers over a pack of lies? What's really amazing is all the ass clowns like you that...after all that is now known as fact...still justify the criminal invasion in Iraq. Beyond pathetic....and a truly sorry commentary on how partisan hacks use tunnel vision glasses.

  Please show where I justified going into Iraq? I was good with Afghanistan, not good with going into Iraq the second time (was ok with it the first time, kind of...).
  
  If you can please point out where I justified the 2nd Iraq invasion in that post, please quote it. If not shut the f up.
• jmog

  Footwedge;1730929 wrote:What I said was...ISIS.or any other radical Islamic group would not be in Iraq had we not invaded and destroyed their country. It's that simple. You can believe anything you want..but that is a fact.

  No, that is your opinion. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
• jmog

  Footwedge;1731103 wrote:BTW...I apologize for high jacking this thread on the malfeasance of Hillary Clinton. Unlike the Iraq War, I have not done my due diligence in researching the subject so I am not qualified enough to make comments. I will start a new thread if anybody wants to discuss the mission creep of the Iraq war. I flew off the handle due to Jfog and his pointed rant against ytowngirl...who actually served our country.

  If you didn't get the joke, that "rant" was from Billy Madison. It appeared most other people got it. It was a direct quote from the movie that I altered to fit an internet forum instead of a listening audience.
  
  Failwedge shows up again...at least it wasn't math this time right?
• QuakerOats

  Corruption of the highest level ---- they should be in jail. To think she could be president is utterly unbelievable.
  
  
  http://finance.yahoo.com/news/hillary-bill-democrats-legally-conned-094500710.html
  
  According to an expose´ by David Sirota of the International Business Times, the State Department under Hillary Clinton approved a number of arms sales to foreign nations, sometimes over the objections of other allies, at the same time that the buyers put millions into the Clinton Foundation’s coffers.
  The amounts involved are breathtaking. According to Sirota’s accounting from public records, the Clinton-led State Department authorized $165 billion in sales to 20 nations that donated to the foundation. State also authorized another $151 billion in &#8220entagon-brokered deals” with 16 nations that coughed up cash for the family charity. Some of the defense contractors involved also donated to the foundation, and a few of them paid big money to Bill Clinton for speeches.
  The US routinely conducts arms sales to allies, but this wasn’t a case of business as usual. Comparing the three full fiscal years of Hillary’s tenure at State to the corresponding timeframe of the Bush administration’s second term, Sirota found that the State Department nearly doubled the sales to those nations, and increased the amount of Pentagon sales by 143 percent.
  Remember when Democrats and progressives complained that George W. Bush was a warmonger, one who partnered with oppressive regimes? Sirota notes that the Clinton Foundation took cash from regimes like Saudi Arabia, Oman, Algeria, and Hamas’s diplomatic ally Qatar while approving large arms sales. The Israelis objected strenuously to a $29 billion arms sale to the Saudis, and evenClinton warned about their lack of cooperation on counterterrorism strategy. Qatari cooperation against terrorism was “considered to be the worst in the region,” Hillary also declared in internal memos exposed by Wikileaks years later.
  Proving that news organizations cannot count on a Scoop of the Day with the Clinton beat, the Associated Press followed up later in the day with another revelation about the Clinton family’s finances. Despite claiming to have committed to extraordinary transparency, Hillary’s financial disclosures somehow omitted a shell company used to pay Bill’s consulting fees. The Delaware corporation WJC LLC was launched in 2008, moved to New York in 2009, and returned to Delaware in 2013. It exists as precisely the kind of &#8220ass-through entity” that Democrats criticized when Mitt Romney turned out to have used one for nearly $2 million in capital-venture payments.
  The only reason that WJC LLC became known because of email discussions among State Department ethics reviewers over the payments made to Bill during Hillary’s term as Secretary of State. In one instance, Bill’s attorney Douglas Band sought clearance for payments from Haim Saban, the principal owner of Univision and a major player in Middle East politics. Saban has gone on record pledging to use all his resources to get Hillary Clinton elected president.
  Politico’s Marc Caputo has been warning about the unseemly partnership between the media mogul and the Democratic frontrunner for more than a year, starting when Caputo reported for the Miami Herald. Caputo quoted Saban from an interview with an Israeli newspaper that if Hillary ran for president, “we will of course pitch in with full might. Seeing her in the White House is a big dream of mine.”
  The legal requirement to prove corruption usually rests on finding explicit quid pro quo arrangements. With the Clintons, we have lots ofquid, lots of quo, and two old pros in between it all. Bob McDonnell was convicted of corruption with less evidence of pay-for-play during his term as governor in Virginia. The Clintons sought millions of dollars in donations, speech fees, and consultancies from foreign countries and powerful industrialists and at the same time approved significant financial deals such as Uranium One and hundreds of billions in arms sales. They got rich off the nexus of power and federal authority. Now they want to get their hands on the highest authority in the US to extend their power and exploitation.
  Even if prosecutors never make a criminal case against the Clintons for corruption -- and it’s impossible to imagine the Obama administration’s Department of Justice taking up the case -- that does not let voters off the hook. Do voters want real accountability, checks on power, and national leadership that puts public service ahead of the public trough? Or will they vote for the family that exploits the supposed “military-industrial complex”?
  This country needs a four-year rerun of this kind of corruption even less than it needs a four-week run of White House Down.
• Footwedge

  jmog;1731304 wrote:If you didn't get the joke, that "rant" was from Billy Madison. It appeared most other people got it. It was a direct quote from the movie that I altered to fit an internet forum instead of a listening audience.
  
  Failwedge shows up again...at least it wasn't math this time right?

  You owe the soldier an apology. While she enlisited and served our country, you, just like Dick Cheney. had "better things to do." dintcha?
• superman

  Footwedge;1731438 wrote:You owe the soldier an apology. While she enlisited and served our country, you, just like Dick Cheney. had "better things to do." dintcha?

  What branch were you in?
• QuakerOats

  Footwedge;1731438 wrote:You owe the soldier an apology. While she enlisited and served our country, you, just like Dick Cheney. had "better things to do." dintcha?

  
  
  "What difference does it make?"
• jmog

  Footwedge;1731438 wrote:You owe the soldier an apology. While she enlisited and served our country, you, just like Dick Cheney. had "better things to do." dintcha?

  You don't know anything about me and whether or not I was in the military.
  
  You want to pull that about Dick Cheney? A stinking VP? What about Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton, etc. Actual POTUS's and possible POTUS.
  
  And for the record, I volunteered for the AF right after 9/11, but was rejected due to past joint injuries (ankles/knees/shoulder) and a diagnosis of gout.
  
  What branch did you serve in since you were so worried about me?
• HitsRus

  

  QuakerOats;1731524 wrote:"What difference does it make?"

  LOL... Nice.
• Belly35

  

  "Go to the end of the line"
  
  Hillary the public is at the end of the line with you ..... and the Socialist Democrat Party
• Footwedge

  jmog;1731533 wrote:You don't know anything about me and whether or not I was in the military.
  
  You want to pull that about Dick Cheney? A stinking VP? What about Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton, etc. Actual POTUS's and possible POTUS.
  
  And for the record, I volunteered for the AF right after 9/11, but was rejected due to past joint injuries (ankles/knees/shoulder) and a diagnosis of gout.
  
  What branch did you serve in since you were so worried about me?

  And you are a lying sack of shit.
• fish82

  

  Footwedge;1732034 wrote:And you are a lying sack of shit.

  Quoted for irony.
  
  
  Welcome back, BTW.
• jmog

  Footwedge;1732034 wrote:And you are a lying sack of shit.

  I was diagnosed with gout while in college, I had messed up ankles and knees from HS football/baseball. I had a partially torn rotator cuff from college baseball. I had the body of a 40 year old but was 22 at the time. They did turn me down, they had no shortage of volunteers at that point in time (we had just entered Afghanistan, Iraq had not started).
  
  Again I ask, what branch did you serve in, since you are so concerned about me and military service?
• superman

  jmog;1732151 wrote:
  Again I ask, what branch did you serve in, since you are so concerned about me and military service?

  Inquiring minds want to know.
• gut

  If we elect Billary, I may have to just learn to ignore politics for the joke and sad state it is in America....I'm sure this isn't criminal (their expensive lawyers make sure of that), but it's definitely crooked...snippet from WSJ today:
  
  Most charities are staffed by folks who have spent a lifetime in nonprofits, writing grants or doing overseas field work. The Clinton Foundation is staffed by political operatives. It has been basically a parking lot for Clinton campaign workers—a comfy place to draw a big check as they geared up for Hillary’s presidential run. The revolving door is spinning quickly these days.
  
  There’s Dennis Cheng, a finance director for Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 bid, who went to the Clinton Foundation as its chief development officer. There he built a giant donor file, which he earlier this year took with him to head up fundraising for the Clinton 2016 campaign. There’s Katie Dowd, who raised $100 million as Mrs. Clinton’s new media director in 2008, then went to a Clinton PAC, then to the State Department, then to the foundation as a “tech adviser.” She’s now at Clinton 2016 as digital director.
  
  Some operatives don’t even bother feigning separation. Longtime aide Cheryl Mills served as general counsel to Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 campaign, then worked at State. She then joined the board of directors of the foundation and remains on it still, even as she works on Clinton 2016. Nick Merrill, an aide to Mrs. Clinton at State, has continued on as her press liaison. Last year his name popped up on a news release as a contact person for the Clinton Foundation. Mr. Merrill will be a campaign spokesman for Clinton 2016.
  
  ...Ditto more than a dozen other staffers at the foundation who lack long histories with Clinton but who came straight out of politics—either working for the Democratic National Committee, other politicians or super PACS..
  
  And that's just SOME of her former and current staffers parking at the foundation and receiving paychecks waiting for 2016.