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  • Belly35
    Belly35;1578536 wrote:Got no definition of ter term African America because ... You have to looked it up because you have no orgainal thought
    You are clueless of what you think it means
    You use it because Obama uses it
    Isadore still looking for your definition of the term African- America you use to Title Obama... ?
    If you got jack shit just admit it.... you are entitled to be wrong .... mofo
  • isadore
    Belly35;1578759 wrote:Isadore still looking for your definition of the term African- America you use to Title Obama... ?
    If you got jack shit just admit it.... you are entitled to be wrong .... mofo
    1. Since I respect as a person and a leader, I accept how he defines himself as an African American.
    2. I have no problem with the definition of African American as a “black American.”
    3. The term is even more appropriate from him because his mother was an American and his father was an African.
  • Belly35
    isadore;1578795 wrote:1. Since I respect as a person and a leader, I accept how he defines himself as an African American.
    2. I have no problem with the definition of African American as a “black American.”
    3. The term is even more appropriate from him because his mother was an American and his father was an African.
    . Wow! Once you're a Obama lap puppy you throw every thing under the bus for self-ego jerk off. Once again the entitlement mentality take priority over the struggles of slaver, black suppression, civil right movements and the heritage of Black America history.

    Black immigrants and their children have become more visible in universities, the workplace and in politics, with Colin L. Powell, the son of Jamaican immigrants, serving as secretary of state, and Barack Obama, born to a Kenyan father and an American mother, a United States Senator from Illinois and emerging as a rising star in the Democratic Party.


    During the campaign, the debate spilled into public view when Alan Keyes, the black Republican challenger for the Senate seat in Illinois, questioned whether Mr. Obama, the keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention, should claim an African-American identity. "Barack Obama claims an African-American heritage," Keyes said on the ABC program "This Week". "Barack Obama and I have the same race that is, physical characteristics. We are not from the same heritage." "My ancestors toiled in slavery in this country," Mr. Keyes said. "My consciousness, who I am as a person, has been shaped by my struggle, deeply emotional and deeply painful, with the reality of that heritage."


    Some black Americans argue that black immigrants, like Obama and Mr. Powell, are most certainly African-American. (Mr. Obama and Mr. Powell often use that term when describing themselves.) Yet some immigrants and their children prefer to be called African or Nigerian-American or Jamaican-American, depending on their countries of origin. Other people prefer the term black, which seems to include everyone, regardless of nationality. Keyes's comments reflect the views of a number of black Americans.


    Many argued that the term African-American should refer to the descendants of slaves brought to the United States centuries ago, not to newcomers who have not inherited the legacy of bondage, segregation and legal discrimination. Dr. Bobby Austin, an administrator at the University of the District of Columbia understood why some blacks were offended when Obama and Powell claimed an African-American identity. Dr. Austin said some people feared that black immigrants and their children would snatch up the hard-won opportunities made possible by the civil rights movement. Obama claims anything that benefits Obama.... Thank The Lord those bondage by slavery, suppression and the struggles of civil rights paved the way for self gratifying individuals like Obama ... Once a fraud always a fraud
  • isadore
    Belly35;1578811 wrote:. Wow! Once you're a Obama lap puppy you throw every thing under the bus for self-ego jerk off. Once again the entitlement mentality take priority over the struggles of slaver, black suppression, civil right movements and the heritage of Black America history.

    Black immigrants and their children have become more visible in universities, the workplace and in politics, with Colin L. Powell, the son of Jamaican immigrants, serving as secretary of state, and Barack Obama, born to a Kenyan father and an American mother, a United States Senator from Illinois and emerging as a rising star in the Democratic Party.


    During the campaign, the debate spilled into public view when Alan Keyes, the black Republican challenger for the Senate seat in Illinois, questioned whether Mr. Obama, the keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention, should claim an African-American identity. "Barack Obama claims an African-American heritage," Keyes said on the ABC program "This Week". "Barack Obama and I have the same race that is, physical characteristics. We are not from the same heritage." "My ancestors toiled in slavery in this country," Mr. Keyes said. "My consciousness, who I am as a person, has been shaped by my struggle, deeply emotional and deeply painful, with the reality of that heritage."


    Some black Americans argue that black immigrants, like Obama and Mr. Powell, are most certainly African-American. (Mr. Obama and Mr. Powell often use that term when describing themselves.) Yet some immigrants and their children prefer to be called African or Nigerian-American or Jamaican-American, depending on their countries of origin. Other people prefer the term black, which seems to include everyone, regardless of nationality. Keyes's comments reflect the views of a number of black Americans.


    Many argued that the term African-American should refer to the descendants of slaves brought to the United States centuries ago, not to newcomers who have not inherited the legacy of bondage, segregation and legal discrimination. Dr. Bobby Austin, an administrator at the University of the District of Columbia understood why some blacks were offended when Obama and Powell claimed an African-American identity. Dr. Austin said some people feared that black immigrants and their children would snatch up the hard-won opportunities made possible by the civil rights movement. Obama claims anything that benefits Obama.... Thank The Lord those bondage by slavery, suppression and the struggles of civil rights paved the way for self gratifying individuals like Obama ... Once a fraud always a fraud
    Gosh a ruddies. Why don’t you give credit for the article to Rachel L. Swarrns, the author of this New York Times article from August 29, 2004.
    Do these people even know history. Talking of Barack Obama and Colin Powell:
    “newcomers who have not inherited the legacy of bondage, segregation and legal discrimination.”
    Do these folks even know the history of Powell’s Jamaica or the history of Sub Sahara Africa. Jamaica had slavery, discrimination and institutionalized racism. Sub Sahara Africa’s population were abused, discriminated against by white imperialist and suffered the attacks by Arab slavers. In both countries blacks fought for rights and self rule.
  • Belly35
    isadore;1578839 wrote:Gosh a ruddies. Why don’t you give credit for the article to Rachel L. Swarrns, the author of this New York Times article from August 29, 2004.
    Do these people even know history. Talking of Barack Obama and Colin Powell:
    “newcomers who have not inherited the legacy of bondage, segregation and legal discrimination.”
    Do these folks even know the history of Powell’s Jamaica or the history of Sub Sahara Africa. Jamaica had slavery, discrimination and institutionalized racism. Sub Sahara Africa’s population were abused, discriminated against by white imperialist and suffered the attacks by Arab slavers. In both countries blacks fought for rights and self rule.
    African American Registry ...


    my ancestry is Irish and slavery in America is not restricted to Black Africans only over 30,000 Irish where also solded into slavery. Can I claim to be African America?
  • isadore
    Belly35;1578848 wrote:African American Registry ...


    my ancestry is Irish and slavery in America is not restricted to Black Africans only over 30,000 Irish where also solded into slavery. Can I claim to be African America?
    Irish American, you know some other people label themselves that.
  • Belly35
    isadore;1578853 wrote:Irish American, you know some other people label themselves that.
    I know but I like being American my ancestry, ethnic is part of who I am but not whole of my soul, pride and heritage that I know, that would be .... American. African America is a good title for a Community Organizer ...
  • isadore
    "The 400 richest people in the United States have more wealth than the bottom 150 million put together," said Berkeley Professor and former Labor Secretary Robert Reich
    In the early 1980s, wealthy Americans lived 2.8 years longer than the poor, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. The wealthy and poor were defined as the top and bottom 10% on a number of different economic measures.
    But by the late 1990s the rich were living 4.5 years longer, and the gap has only widened since then, HHS said
    Our middle class is too weak to support the consumer spending that has historically driven our economic growth," Nobel Prize-winning Economist and Columbia Professor
    Joseph Stiglitz wrote in an editorial earlier this year.
    "With inequality at its highest level since before the Depression, a robust recovery will be difficult in the short term, and the American dream — a good life in exchange for hard work — is slowly dying."
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/25/news/economy/income-inequality/


     
  • Con_Alma
    That will generally continue to be the case for a long, long time.
  • isadore
  • Con_Alma
    isadore;1578962 wrote:not when you have governments that follow policies to reduce it....
    Is that what we have???

    Like I said...it's going to generally reamin that way for a long, long time.

    Your chart shows over an extended period of time the wealthy income has always continued to rise.
  • isadore
    Con_Alma;1578963 wrote:Is that what we have???

    Like I said...it's going to generally reamin that way for a long, long time.

    Your chart shows over an extended period of time the wealthy income has always continued to rise.
    if the dems had large majorities in Congress then we would. and what they show is government government policies beginning under the New Deal that aid in providing an adequate income of the large bulk of Americans while controlling the rapacious 1%. Then came Reagan.
  • Con_Alma
    I didn't ask what if. I asked what we have.

    The wealthy are going to generally continue to increase their income for a long, long time.
  • isadore
    as we have seen, not if we get a government that is supportive of the needs of the large majority of the American people
  • Con_Alma
    isadore;1579007 wrote:as we have seen, not if we get a government that is supportive of the needs of the large majority of the American people

    ....more "ifs".

    I am speaking of what is.
  • Al Bundy
    isadore;1578962 wrote:not when you have governments that follow policies to reduce it.
    http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/johncassidy/2013/11/inequality-and-growth-what-do-we-know.html
    That graph shows us that they were even at the end of Bush's presidency, and it has spiked in favor of the rich since Obama took over.
  • Al Bundy
    isadore;1578957 wrote:"The 400 richest people in the United States have more wealth than the bottom 150 million put together," said Berkeley Professor and former Labor Secretary Robert Reich
    In the early 1980s, wealthy Americans lived 2.8 years longer than the poor, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. The wealthy and poor were defined as the top and bottom 10% on a number of different economic measures.
    But by the late 1990s the rich were living 4.5 years longer, and the gap has only widened since then, HHS said
    Our middle class is too weak to support the consumer spending that has historically driven our economic growth," Nobel Prize-winning Economist and Columbia Professor
    Joseph Stiglitz wrote in an editorial earlier this year.
    "With inequality at its highest level since before the Depression, a robust recovery will be difficult in the short term, and the American dream — a good life in exchange for hard work — is slowly dying."
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/25/news/economy/income-inequality/


     
    So if you earn a 4 year degree and live longer, you will accumulate more wealth in your lifetime. Who ever would have imagined that?
  • isadore
    Al Bundy;1579046 wrote:That graph shows us that they were even at the end of Bush's presidency, and it has spiked in favor of the rich since Obama took over.
    at that spot it shows the short term effects of the Great Bush recession. They had sky rocketed during the rest of his term.
  • isadore
    Al Bundy;1579052 wrote:So if you earn a 4 year degree and live longer, you will accumulate more wealth in your lifetime. Who ever would have imagined that?
    if your rich you get to go to college and live longer. the poor suffer and have little chance to rise.
  • Con_Alma
    isadore;1579064 wrote:at that spot it shows the short term effects of the Great Bush recession. They had sky rocketed during the rest of his term.
    They will always go up. Sure there may be short-term impacts due to government restrictions but they wealthy have always continued to increase their income and wealth over an extended period of time.
  • Con_Alma
    isadore;1579067 wrote:if your rich you get to go to college and live longer. the poor suffer and have little chance to rise.

    Everyone gets to go to college if they want to. There is even a school willing to pay back up to 100% of a student's loan if the student doesn't become employed at a minimum income level after graduating.
  • Devils Advocate
    isadore;1579067 wrote:if your rich you get to go to college and live longer. the poor suffer and have little chance to rise.
    2 things:

    *you're

    Think about all those poor little kids in Iraq. They do not have much of a chance. A bomb strapped around their chest probably seems like a good option.

    Bigot
  • Al Bundy
    isadore;1579064 wrote:at that spot it shows the short term effects of the Great Bush recession. They had sky rocketed during the rest of his term.
    According to you, we are allowed to blame at least the first 61 months of a president's time in office on the previous president, so it must be Clinton's fault.
  • Al Bundy
    isadore;1579067 wrote:if your rich you get to go to college and live longer. the poor suffer and have little chance to rise.
    If you go to college and live longer, you become rich.
  • gut
    Why do you want to live longer if you're poor?