the rich get richer
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gut
Of course! It's not your fault you were born with the lazy gene.Al Bundy;1576530 wrote:What if I have no interest in education? If I just don't feel like working anymore, should I be able to collect a check from the government to cover all of my needs? -
isadore
you would be provided with nourishing food, warm clothing, a roof over your head and good medical care.Al Bundy;1576530 wrote:What if I have no interest in education? If I just don't feel like working anymore, should I be able to collect a check from the government to cover all of my needs? -
Belly35
Jail time provide the same...isadore;1576537 wrote:you would be provided with nourishing food, warm clothing, a roof over your head and good medical care. -
Belly35
isadore;1576428 wrote:gosh now you're specifying your hatred of those in need. It is usually more generalized. It believe All Americans should be clothed, fed, housed and provided with healthcare. Now for the families you hate so much, not surprisingly most of them are from ethnic minorities.
TANF Families
The average monthly number of TANF families was 1,847,155 in FY 2010. The estimated average monthly number of TANF recipients was 1,084,828 adults and 3,280,153 children.
Ohio ranked third with a monthly average of 103, 000.
The average number of persons in TANF families was 2.4, including an average of 1.8 recipient children
Less than eight percent of families had more than three children. The average number of children in closed-case families was 1.8.
Almost half of TANF families had no adult recipients. About 49 percent of TANF families had only one adult recipient, and 5 percent included two or more adult recipients.
Eighty-two percent of TANF families received SNAP benefits in FY 2010, which is consistent with previous levels. These families received average monthly SNAP benefits of $378. In addition, 97 percent of TANF families received medical assistance in FY 2010. Of closed-case families, 81 percent received SNAP benefits in the month of closure and 95 percent received medical assistance in the month of closure.
2010 families 31.8% white. 31.9% black 30% Hispanic
Most TANF adult recipients were women, as men only represented 14.8 percent of adult recipients. Ninety percent of adult recipients were the head of the household. There were about 94,800 teen parents whose child also was a member of the TANF family, representing 12 percent of recipients aged 13-19. Fourteen percent of adult recipients were married and living together. The number of married adult recipients was low because many States moved two-parent families to SSF or SSP-MOE programs.
In FY 2010, work participation was mandatory for three of every five adult recipients. Overall, 41.6 percent of all TANF adult recipients participated in some type of work activity during the reporting month. Eleven percent of TANF adult recipients met work activity requirements by either being a teen parent attending school or being a single parent with a child under 6 participating for 20 hours per week (parents with children ages 6 and over are required to participate for 30 hours per week). Additionally, ten percent of adult recipients were disregarded from work participation because they were single custodial parents with a child less than 12 months old. 1.6 percent were exempt because of a sanction, 12.6 percent were exempt because of a good cause exception (e.g., disabled, in poor health, or other), and two percent of adult recipients were exempt from the work participation requirements because they were single custodial parents with a child under age six who did not have access to child care
Among all TANF adult recipients twenty-nine percent worked in unsubsidized or subsidized jobs, 10.9 percent were engaged in job training or educational activities, 8.1 percent participated in job search activities, and another 4.1 percent were engaged in other statutorily listed work activities. Some TANF adults were involved in two or three work activities. Those participating did so for an average of 23.3 hours per week, and some adults participated even though they were work exempt.
TANF Children
More than seventy four percent of recipient children were under 11 year-old. Sixteen percent under two years of age, while 28 percent were between the ages of two and five. Less than 10 percent of the children were 16 years of age or older
The average monthly amount of assistance for TANF recipient families was $392 in FY 2010. Monthly cash payments to TANF families averaged $327 for one child, $412 for two children, $497 for three children, and $594 for four or more children. Some TANF families who were not employed received other forms of assistance such as child care, transportation and other supportive services.
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/resource/character/fy2010/fy2010-chap10-ys-final
Great old information stats
Isadore you are great with cut and paste. How about finding the TANF stats from 2008 (Obama first year) and the present 2013 TANF stats (6 years of Obama)
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isadore
Those statistics show who is receiving welfare payments.Belly35;1576605 wrote:Great old information stats
Isadore you are great with cut and paste. How about finding the TANF stats from 2008 (Obama first year) and the present 2013 TANF stats (6 years of Obama)
This would be interesting to see how the Community Organizer helped.
Obama was not President in 2008, George Bush was and his policies had just begun the Great Recession, Bush caused effects would burden the Obama administration -
Belly35
isadore;1576625 wrote:Obama was not President in 2008, George Bush was and his policies had just begun the Great Recession, Bush caused effects would burden the Obama administration
Come on just do your magicial cut and paste with the stats of TANF 2008 compared to TANF 2013
So when does the Obama Administration start taking responsibility? -
Al Bundy
You don't see a problem with rewarding healthy adults, who choose not to work, for laziness?isadore;1576537 wrote:you would be provided with nourishing food, warm clothing, a roof over your head and good medical care. -
isadore
as the tanf statistics show, that number in America is small. I still believe every American has the right to fed, clothed, housed and receive medical care.Al Bundy;1576649 wrote:You don't see a problem with rewarding healthy adults, who choose not to work, for laziness? -
isadore
let met tell you why that statistics shows nothing. Its like comparing stat on Americans unemployed from 1929 and 1934 then saying God how people were better off under Herbert Hoover than FDR. in 1929 and 2008 the disastrous effects of conservative Republican policies were at just beginning to be felt, we were on the edge of the maelstrom caused by Bush and the conservative Republicans.Belly35;1576628 wrote:Come on just do your magicial cut and paste with the stats of TANF 2008 compared to TANF 2013
So when does the Obama Administration start taking responsibility? -
Belly35
We just want to compare ....isadore;1576667 wrote:let met tell you why that statistics shows nothing. Its like comparing stat on Americans unemployed from 1929 and 1934 then saying God how people were better off under Herbert Hoover than FDR. in 1929 and 2008 the disastrous effects of conservative Republican policies were at just beginning to be felt, we were on the edge of the maelstrom caused by Bush and the conservative Republicans.
When does the Obama administration start taking responsibility? -
gut
This administration has taken finger-pointing to a level not seen in my lifetime. The whole "my way, or my executive order" mentality of Obama is an unsettling contrast to Reagan, Clinton and others who found common ground and ways to work with a divided/opposition Congress. Obama deserves plenty of blame for the gridlock - his approach tends to be to manipulate public opinion (the "perpetual campaigner") in order to claim some sort of perceived mandate to push his agenda by any means necessary (which doesn't exactly engender the spirit of cooperation).Belly35;1576787 wrote:We just want to compare ....
When does the Obama administration start taking responsibility?
Oddly enough, I saw a blurb that Rubio is proposing a path to blocking bailouts of insurance companies because of the Obamakare disaster. That could be a horrible strategic misstep that might result in the Dems/media blaming Repubs for "destroying the healthcare industry". -
isadore
Executive orders by President\gut;1576796 wrote:This administration has taken finger-pointing to a level not seen in my lifetime. The whole "my way, or my executive order" mentality of Obama is an unsettling contrast to Reagan, Clinton and others who found common ground and ways to work with a divided/opposition Congress. Obama deserves plenty of blame for the gridlock - his approach tends to be to manipulate public opinion (the "perpetual campaigner") in order to claim some sort of perceived mandate to push his agenda by any means necessary (which doesn't exactly engender the spirit of cooperation).
Oddly enough, I saw a blurb that Rubio is proposing a path to blocking bailouts of insurance companies because of the Obamakare disaster. That could be a horrible strategic misstep that might result in the Dems/media blaming Repubs for "destroying the healthcare industry".
Warren Harding 522
Calvin Coolidge 1203
Herbert Hoover 968
FDR 3522
Truman 907
Eisenhower 484
Kennedy 214
Johnson 325
Nixon 346
Ford 169
Carter 320
Reagan 381
Bush 166
Clinton 364
Bush 291
Obama 168
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php
　
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QuakerOatsobamaKare is creating and solidifying the biggest poverty trap in the history of the planet, all while wrecking the greatest health care in the world, and killing millions of jobs.
IT IS TREASON !!!! -
isadore
greatest healthcare in the world would have the longest life span and the lowest infant mortality rate.QuakerOats;1576903 wrote:obamaKare is creating and solidifying the biggest poverty trap in the history of the planet, all while wrecking the greatest health care in the world, and killing millions of jobs.
IT IS TREASON !!!! -
Al Bundy
If you had to have a major medical procedure done, where would you want it done?isadore;1576904 wrote:greatest healthcare in the world would have the longest life span and the lowest infant mortality rate. -
isadore
Germany, France, Japan.Al Bundy;1576981 wrote:If you had to have a major medical procedure done, where would you want it done?
and gosh their systems are so much more efficient and less costly than ours/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/most-efficient-healthcare_n_3825477.html -
Belly35
Belly35;1576787 wrote:We just want to compare ....
When does the Obama administration start taking responsibility?
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QuakerOatsisadore;1576997 wrote:Germany, France, Japan.
and gosh their systems are so much more efficient and less costly than ours/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/most-efficient-healthcare_n_3825477.html
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isadoreThe figures from the Census Bureau on Tuesday highlighted the lingering scars from the 2007-2009 recession and added fresh fuel to debates over government austerity and widening income inequality. It could also renew calls to raise the minimum wage.
Today's data underscore that it is time for Congress to pivot from a focus on austerity to an agenda emphasizing jobs and shared economic growth,"
said Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress, a liberal policy group in Washington
The recovery from the worst recession since the 1930s has been marked by a jump in stock prices to record highs, aided in part by the Federal Reserve's ultra easy monetary policy.
http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?43636-the-rich-get-richer/page19 -
Belly35
Isadore not answering .... HelloBelly35;1576787 wrote:We just want to compare ....
When does the Obama administration start taking responsibility? -
isadore6 months after the Democrats regain control of Congress
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guthahaha, if Repubs gain control of the Senate things will start to improve, unless Obama chooses to unilaterally oppose pro-growth policies.
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Al Bundy
He already had 2 years of that, and it failed miserably. If he couldn't do anything with 2 years, why would he be able to do anything in 6 months?isadore;1577385 wrote:6 months after the Democrats regain control of Congress -
isadore
hardly a failure, his stimulus package began to slow the precipitous Republican caused decline and provided medical care for millions.Al Bundy;1577439 wrote:He already had 2 years of that, and it failed miserably. If he couldn't do anything with 2 years, why would he be able to do anything in 6 months? -
isadore
last time their policies set us up for the Great Recession.gut;1577390 wrote:hahaha, if Repubs gain control of the Senate things will start to improve, unless Obama chooses to unilaterally oppose pro-growth policies.