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Disgusted with obama administration - Part II

  • superman
    fish82;1737442 wrote:Gay Rage continues to march forward as the most Powerful Force in the Country right now.

    That said, I give the ruling a "thumbs up," mostly from looking forward to having both sides STFU about it.
    But the gay rights agenda won't stfu. They will find something new to complain about. They have to. Their survival depends on it.
  • gut
    sleeper;1737420 wrote:That says it all right there. SCOTUS will defend Obamacare no matter what challenges it faces.
    Kind of hard to blame them on this, though. Would you want to have your name attached to that mess? This country is going to have some form of nationalized healthcare, so I can understand why SCOTUS might not want to try to put the horse back in the barn. That's not their job, but it's also not their job to turn hotly debated legislation on its ear because of technicalities.

    You rule it unconstitutional, what's going to happen to the insurance market and healthcare? Would you want to be responsible for that chaos when it wasn't really necessary?

    The wheels are going to start coming off this in 2016. That's when the employer mandate kicks-in and the states "inherit" 10% of the cost of subsidies. And then Congress and the POTUS are going to have to act to fix it.
  • gut
    superman;1737444 wrote:But the gay rights agenda won't stfu. They will find something new to complain about. They have to. Their survival depends on it.
    My guess is they will now focus their onslaught on adoption.
  • DeyDurkie5
    Thavoice with a dumb comment in 3 2 1...
  • queencitybuckeye
    DeyDurkie5;1737449 wrote:Thavoice with a dumb comment in 3 2 1...
    Maybe he's just confused on the facts. Perhaps this would assist him.

    http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-30-second-guide-to-how-gay-marriage-ruling-affects-you/
  • like_that
    I am interested to see what will happen when a church turns down a gay couple.
  • superman
    queencitybuckeye;1737454 wrote:Maybe he's just confused on the facts. Perhaps this would assist him.

    http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/a-30-second-guide-to-how-gay-marriage-ruling-affects-you/
    I would be willing to bet that within a year someone will sue a church or pastor for not performing their wedding.
  • like_that
    superman;1737459 wrote:I would be willing to bet that within a year someone will sue a church or pastor for not performing their wedding.
    And that's a case they definitely should not win.
  • queencitybuckeye
    superman;1737459 wrote:I would be willing to bet that within a year someone will sue a church or pastor for not performing their wedding.
    Hopefully, the court would rule that the couple's rights end where the pastor's begins, at the church door.
  • superman
    like_that;1737461 wrote:And that's a case they definitely should not win.
    All it takes is one liberal judge with an agenda.
  • gut
    like_that;1737461 wrote:And that's a case they definitely should not win.
    Someone will bitch and moan, and someone may join a Church specifically to make an issue out of it....but it shouldn't be an issue. Churches aren't going to be required to perform same-sex marriages. Your certificate from the county clerk will be just as valid.
  • Spock
    Obama forgot that the eulogy isn't supposed to be a campaign speech. Unreal that he would stain this ladies funeral with this crap.
  • QuakerOats
    like_that;1737423 wrote:That's a decision I'm down with. Now hopefully the next move is to remove government from marriage completely.

    That can NEVER happen now. It is government that has just completely and totally interjected itself by this ruling. States's right and the notion of elected representation has just been eradicated. I think you need to read all 4 of the opinions written by each dissenter.
  • queencitybuckeye
    QuakerOats;1737480 wrote:That can NEVER happen now. It is government that has just completely and totally interjected itself by this ruling. States's right and the notion of elected representation has just been eradicated. I think you need to read all 4 of the opinions written by each dissenter.
    It's a simple 14th amendment case, having nothing at all to do with states's (sic) rights. The members of the court who aren't blithering idiots understood the concept.
  • QuakerOats
    queencitybuckeye;1737481 wrote:It's a simple 14th amendment case, having nothing at all to do with states's (sic) rights. The members of the court who aren't blithering idiots understood the concept.

    read up ............good luck

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/domesticpolicy/marriage-same-sex-gay-supreme-court-dissent-20150626
  • fish82
    queencitybuckeye;1737481 wrote:It's a simple 14th amendment case, having nothing at all to do with states's (sic) rights. The members of the court who aren't blithering idiots understood the concept.
    It's a 14th Amendment case, but hardly simple. If it was, Kennedy's opinion would have been about 2 paragraphs long.

    That said, having read Roberts' legally incoherant majority decision on King v. Burwell, I have no issue labeling him as a "blithering idiot."
  • HitsRus
    fish82;1737442 wrote:Gay Rage continues to march forward as the most Powerful Force in the Country right now.

    That said, I give the ruling a "thumbs up," mostly from looking forward to having both sides STFU about it.
    That's not going to hppen either as, just like racism, there is too much political gain to be had by stirring it up.
  • friendfromlowry
    Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge of politics and only started paying attention the last couple years. So forgive me if this is a noob question, but doesn't it seem Republicans are incredibly out of touch with gay marriage? Huckabee, Cruz, and Jindal have all went on record that they'd support their states defying the SCOTUS and continuing to deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples. 6/10 Americans and a higher percentage of young Americans support gay marriage, yet these presidential hopefuls are playing the sore loser card. I don't get it. I know they have their own following/party they have to appease.
  • like_that
    friendfromlowry;1737659 wrote:Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge of politics and only started paying attention the last couple years. So forgive me if this is a noob question, but doesn't it seem Republicans are incredibly out of touch with gay marriage? Huckabee, Cruz, and Jindal have all went on record that they'd support their states defying the SCOTUS and continuing to deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples. 6/10 Americans and a higher percentage of young Americans support gay marriage, yet these presidential hopefuls are playing the sore loser card. I don't get it. I know they have their own following/party they have to appease.
    Yes.
  • superman
    friendfromlowry;1737659 wrote:Admittedly, I don't have much knowledge of politics and only started paying attention the last couple years. So forgive me if this is a noob question, but doesn't it seem Republicans are incredibly out of touch with gay marriage? Huckabee, Cruz, and Jindal have all went on record that they'd support their states defying the SCOTUS and continuing to deny marriage licenses to same-sex couples. 6/10 Americans and a higher percentage of young Americans support gay marriage, yet these presidential hopefuls are playing the sore loser card. I don't get it. I know they have their own following/party they have to appease.
    Honest question. Where did you get the 6/10 number?
    80% of Tennesseans voted to ban gay marriage just last year. I know Tennessee doesn't represent everyone, but it's hard to imagine they are that far off from the rest of the country.
  • friendfromlowry
    superman;1737725 wrote:Honest question. Where did you get the 6/10 number?
    80% of Tennesseans voted to ban gay marriage just last year. I know Tennessee doesn't represent everyone, but it's hard to imagine they are that far off from the rest of the country.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/poll-gay-marriage-support-at-record-high/2015/04/22/f6548332-e92a-11e4-aae1-d642717d8afa_story.html
  • superman
    Thanks.
  • QuakerOats
    Now the marxist is proposing to raise the overtime exempt wage limit from $23,660 to over $50,000 (including managers). The guy is absolutely crushing this country with disastrous regulations. 93 million Americans are out of work and he says, 'hey let's try for 100 million'.

    It is hard to believe the carnage he has wrought in just 6 years. It is irreversible.
  • QuakerOats
    "...email exchanges between agency officials directly involved in the activation of the EOC to handle the health threats created by the influx of illegal alien minors last summer. In an email dated June 9, 2014, CDC Logistics Management Specialist George Roark wrote to CDC Public Health Advisor William Adams that “no country in the world would allow” the influx. Adams replies that “in ten years or less, they’ll all be voting…Commander’s intent…” Roark fires back by describing Obama as “the worst pres we have ever had…he truly is ‘the amateur’ but a Marxist too.”

    Nice to know at least some federal officials know the White House occupier is a marxist also.

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/07/cdc-official-calls-obama-worst-president-amateur-marxist-after-influx-of-illegal-alien-minors/
  • sleeper