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pmoney25

This really shouldn't even be an issue. Rush Limbaugh has a right to say what he wants and so does Bill Maher. Rush is an entertainer and Maher is a Comedian. Is it classless and juvenile to call woman those names? Absolutely. Is it a crime and a something that should be a national issue? Hell no.

These stupid issues waste time and give politicians an excuse not to actually solve anything else.

majorspark

I Wear Pants;1108595 wrote:Really? Even if it was satire (which it wasn't) it would be disgusting.

Yes it was. Your inability to recognize it is telling. And yes satire can many times be disgusting.

I Wear Pants;1108595 wrote:It's the abduction and rape and murder of thousands of children.

This kind of shit happens in all wars. Its currently happening a lot in that part of the world. By parties even in opposition to the LRA.

I Wear Pants;1108595 wrote:But of course, you'll cry fowl if people think companies should pull advertising.

No I don't give a shit what companies do with their advertising. Companies are about making money. They may try the political correct thing. But it is about the bottom line. In the end they will follow the dollars. I think a lot of CEOs are dicks. I still buy their products if it helps my bottom line.

Why do you people get so lathered up about a man that you do not even have to listen to? Your worst fear is he is winning droves of people over with his words. He can't vote money to be taken out of your paycheck, order you to purchase a service under threat of finacial penalty, order you to take arms against other human beings, etc... I could go on and on. I don't waste my time fretting over asshats that have no power over me. In fact I have the power with the push of a button to silence them.

I am more concerned with the words of Barack Obama, Harry Reid, John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi, and George Mitchell. You guys are fretting about Limbaugh while a war hero and prominent Senator is running around saying our airmen should bomb Syria.

Footwedge

BGFalcons82;1108637 wrote:The repurcussions are coming. Asshat Maher gave the Obama Super-Pac $1,000,000. He also called Palin words that aren't allowed on the airwaves. He has called her daughter disgusting names. He routinely calls Ann Coulter disparaging names. Where is the outrage for his comments? Where is the media onslaught? Where oh where is thy sting? Two statist congresswomen came out with guns blazing against Limbaugh and they are asked in the link to defend Maher about his million-dollar donation. They offer crickets. Y'all can stop throwing the stones now.

http://nation.foxnews.com/bill-maher/2012/03/07/dem-congresswomen-confronted-over-bill-maher-sex-slurs

So let me get this straight. On the one hand, you have radio talk show host that rattles off nothing but extreme right wing , neoconservative politics for 3 hours....and the other hand a comedian who does stand up...hoping for laughter after every statement.

One is the de facto leader of the GOP....and the other an avowed independent.

And what they spew is to be reviewed in equal terms? Is that it?

Hoooo boy.....little green footballs have been doing some really good spinning I reckon.

SMH.

As an aside, Pew now polling that white women now prefer Obama over Romney by a 52 to 46 split....whereby as recently as 4 weeks ago, those numbers were reversed.

Gee..I wonder if Bill Maher has said something lately to cause such a huge swing? LMAO.

For those that are members of the ABO crowd...it seems to me that boycotting a certain radio station for 3 hours a day would be the prudent thing to do.

BGFalcons82

Footwedge;1108685 wrote:So let me get this straight. On the one hand, you have radio talk show host that rattles off nothing but extreme right wing , neoconservative politics for 3 hours....and the other hand a comedian who does stand up...hoping for laughter after every statement.

One is the de facto leader of the GOP....and the other an avowed independent.

And what they spew is to be reviewed in equal terms? Is that it?

Hoooo boy.....little green footballs have been doing some really good spinning I reckon.

SMH.

As an aside, Pew now polling that white women now prefer Obama over Romney by a 52 to 46 split....whereby as recently as 4 weeks ago, those numbers were reversed.

Gee..I wonder if Bill Maher has said something lately to cause such a huge swing? LMAO.

For those that are members of the ABO crowd...it seems to me that boycotting a certain radio station for 3 hours a day would be the prudent thing to do.

So which is it...is Limbaugh an entertainer JUST LIKE PIG MAHER, or is he running for office?

"De facto leader of the GOP." Get a grip, would ya?

Asshat is an independent you say? As compared to who....Putin?

No, did you cue up the video? No...I didn't think so. The two congresswomen, whom publicly condemned an entertainer for his use of derogatory terms are S I L E N T as church mice when the shoe is on the other foot and one of Obama's million-dollar donors calls Palin a c*nt, calls her daughter a whore, and has called Ann Coulter every name imaginable. It's hypocrisy at its finest. It's the liberal media at their worst. It's fucking pathetic is what it is. Where is Sheila Jackson Lee's condemnation of asshat Maher??? Did you hear her utter a peep in the video? Yeah...that's what I thought.

I have no idea what little green footballs are.

So...whites are suddenly NOT racist because they supposedly support Obama? Shocking....simply fucking shocking.

majorspark

Footwedge;1108685 wrote:As an aside, Pew now polling that white women now prefer Obama over Romney by a 52 to 46 split....whereby as recently as 4 weeks ago, those numbers were reversed.

Every half hour ABC news on one of the radio stations I listen to was reporting that repulicans were trying to block womens access to birth control via the Blunt amendment. Pehaps it would be prudent for the ABO crowd to boycott them as well.

Footwedge

BGFalcons82;1108692 wrote:So which is it...is Limbaugh an entertainer JUST LIKE PIG MAHER, or is he running for office?

One stands up and speaks....and the crowd laughs. That's what a comedian does. The other one hosts a political show where nocody laughs. That's what political hacks do. Nice try tho.

"De facto leader of the GOP." Get a grip, would ya?

You really don't think Limbaugh is the GOP de facto leader? Really? Would you like me to post a hundred links or so whereby prominent GOP figureheads have capitulated to the fatman? Where'va been?

[quote[Asshat is an independent you say? As compared to who....Putin> [/quote]

Wrong.

"Maher eschews political labels, referring to himself as "practical".[SUP][35][/SUP] In the past, he has described himself as a libertarian"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Maher

No, did you cue up the video? No...I didn't think so. The two congresswomen, whom publicly condemned an entertainer for his use of derogatory terms are S I L E N T as church mice when the shoe is on the other foot and one of Obama's million-dollar donors calls Palin a c*nt, calls her daughter a whore, and has called Ann Coulter every name imaginable. It's hypocrisy at its finest. It's the liberal media at their worst. It's ****ing pathetic is what it is. Where is Sheila Jackson Lee's condemnation of asshat Maher??? Did you hear her utter a peep in the video? Yeah...that's what I thought.

See response above about de facto party leader with 20 million sheep who don't ever laugh....vs...a guy who rips both political parties in order to make his audience laugh. Again...nice try.

I have no idea what little green footballs are.

www.littlegreenfootballs.com. There ya go.

So...whites are suddenly NOT racist because they supposedly support Obama? Shocking....simply ****ing shocking.

Let's try this again. 4 weeks ago, Pew showed a 52 to 46 advantage to Romney over Obama for white women. Today, those numbers have flip flopped. And we're probably talking about a million voters that have....over the past few weeks...flip flopped. And you think this has to do with shedding racist views? LOLOL. As McEnroe would say..."you cannot be serious".

Some day you'll come to grips with the reality...and the reality is...the defacto leader of the GOP has blown this election.

Footwedge

Rush..."I'm the defacto leader of the Republican party".

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201006300040

Maybe Bill Maher is the defacto leader of the Democrat party, no?

I Wear Pants

majorspark;1108684 wrote:Yes it was. Your inability to recognize it is telling. And yes satire can many times be disgusting.

This kind of shit happens in all wars. Its currently happening a lot in that part of the world. By parties even in opposition to the LRA.

No I don't give a shit what companies do with their advertising. Companies are about making money. They may try the political correct thing. But it is about the bottom line. In the end they will follow the dollars. I think a lot of CEOs are dicks. I still buy their products if it helps my bottom line.

Why do you people get so lathered up about a man that you do not even have to listen to? Your worst fear is he is winning droves of people over with his words. He can't vote money to be taken out of your paycheck, order you to purchase a service under threat of finacial penalty, order you to take arms against other human beings, etc... I could go on and on. I don't waste my time fretting over asshats that have no power over me. In fact I have the power with the push of a button to silence them.

I am more concerned with the words of Barack Obama, Harry Reid, John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi, and George Mitchell. You guys are fretting about Limbaugh while a war hero and prominent Senator is running around saying our airmen should bomb Syria.

I'm worked up about Mccain being insane as well.

But this thread is about Rush.

And Rush isn't a satirist or comedian. He's a conservative news talk show host.

Why do you people get so worked up that people don't like to support companies or people they think are assholes?

Manhattan Buckeye

Little Green Footballs is a blog by Charles Johnson, it became famous for exposing Rathergate. For those that don't remember that was a concerted effort by a national network to fix the '04 Presidential election based on fake information (or as the Left spins it, fake but accurate).

Since then the guy has gone bat#&%^ insane and is the web's version of the unabomber. I stopped reading years ago when he started going bananas. I wouldn't put much credibility in anything he says.

fish82

Footwedge;1108685 wrote:So let me get this straight. On the one hand, you have radio talk show host that rattles off nothing but extreme right wing , neoconservative politics for 3 hours....and the other hand a comedian who does stand up...hoping for laughter after every statement.

One is the de facto leader of the GOP....and the other an avowed independent.

And what they spew is to be reviewed in equal terms? Is that it?

Hoooo boy.....little green footballs have been doing some really good spinning I reckon.

SMH.

As an aside, Pew now polling that white women now prefer Obama over Romney by a 52 to 46 split....whereby as recently as 4 weeks ago, those numbers were reversed.

Gee..I wonder if Bill Maher has said something lately to cause such a huge swing? LMAO.

For those that are members of the ABO crowd...it seems to me that boycotting a certain radio station for 3 hours a day would be the prudent thing to do.

This post is covered in so much fail I'm not sure where to start.

believer

fish82;1108748 wrote:This post is covered in so much fail I'm not sure where to start.

Don't try. It'll simply garner another disjointed response. It's a vicious cycle thing.

QuakerOats

Gosh, still harping about a non-issue.

I though Rush apologized to the arrogant, selfish, liberal shill.

Let's move on. It is time for the following new threads:

obama, and his policy of fiscal disaster
obama, and his policy of health care disaster
obama, and his policy of foreign apology
obama, and his policy of trampling the first amendment
obama, and his policy of record unemployment
obama, and his policy of dismantling the energy industry

bigdaddy2003

QuakerOats;1108831 wrote:Gosh, still harping about a non-issue.

I though Rush apologized to the arrogant, selfish, liberal shill.

Let's move on. It is time for the following new threads:

obama, and his policy of fiscal disaster
obama, and his policy of health care disaster
obama, and his policy of foreign apology
obama, and his policy of trampling the first amendment
obama, and his policy of record unemployment
obama, and his policy of dismantling the energy industry

Damn it Quaker that is no way to talk about a hero and I agree about needing to get to those topics.

I Wear Pants

QuakerOats;1108831 wrote:Gosh, still harping about a non-issue.

I though Rush apologized to the arrogant, selfish, liberal shill.

Let's move on. It is time for the following new threads:

obama, and his policy of fiscal disaster
obama, and his policy of health care disaster
obama, and his policy of foreign apology
obama, and his policy of trampling the first amendment
obama, and his policy of record unemployment
obama, and his policy of dismantling the energy industry

What?

Bigdogg

Caught a few seconds of big tub of shit Rush on the radio yesterday. Had to laugh when he said that we do not need wind and solar power, all we need is oil. I guess he thinks we make that stuff in large quantities forever. Had to turn it before I lost IQ points.

fish82

Bigdogg;1108989 wrote:Caught a few seconds of big tub of **** Rush on the radio yesterday. Had to laugh when he said that we do not need wind and solar power, all we need is oil. I guess he thinks we make that stuff in large quantities forever. Had to turn it before I lost IQ points.

Too late. Just sayin.

gut

Bigdogg;1108989 wrote:Caught a few seconds of big tub of **** Rush on the radio yesterday. Had to laugh when he said that we do not need wind and solar power, all we need is oil. I guess he thinks we make that stuff in large quantities forever. Had to turn it before I lost IQ points.

I'm guessing you took missed key bits of context, like he was probably talking that MORE wind and solar power is not much of a solution, that we need to tap coal & natural gas. I'm going to look over transcripts from today's show tomorrow to see if I can find what you are talking about. Rush may espouse some far right conservative views that could be considered (are) intolerant, but I suspect a lot of the "BS" claims are misquotes and taken out of context. In my admittedly brief exposure to his website I've not seen the sort of stupid/wrong statements like you've cited above.

I used to glance over Rush's website on occasion. Like Maher and others, he makes the occasional ridulous or outrageous comment, but a lot of what Rush says is actually accurate and insightful. That was my impression when I read his stuff for a few weeks a few years ago. The liberals cherry pick the shock value statements to paint him as an idiot.

Rush is not an idiot. Neither is Bill Maher. Neither are many of these talking heads. But they cater to idiots as it often seems some of the most passionate people you find are also the most ignorant. Bill Maher rarely spits out accurate or insightful info. Rush has a bigger volume of BS with a daily 3-hr show, but on a percentage basis he doesn't come close to Maher. And calling Maher's "Real Time" a stand-up or comedy show is a joke. He's often not that funny (unless you're an ignorant liberal) and it's really a political talk show with some humor thrown in. Caters almost exclusively to liberals and the audience has to be damn near 100% liberal.

Claiming these guys are any sort of leader of their respective parties is about as ignorant as the people who gobble-up everything they say as gospel. They are "popular", relatively speaking, but the portion of their audiences that actually "follow" and are influenced by them for much more than entertainment is likely fairly small. Honestly, I think liberals might make-up the biggest portion of Rush's audience - they're the only ones that ever seem to think the guy is worth quoting.

Bigdogg

gut;1109024 wrote:I'm guessing you took missed key bits of context, like he was probably talking that MORE wind and solar power is not much of a solution, that we need to tap coal & natural gas. I'm going to look over transcripts from today's show tomorrow to see if I can find what you are talking about. Rush may espouse some far right conservative views that could be considered (are) intolerant, but I suspect a lot of the "BS" claims are misquotes and taken out of context. In my admittedly brief exposure to his website I've not seen the sort of stupid/wrong statements like you've cited above.

I used to glance over Rush's website on occasion. Like Maher and others, he makes the occasional ridulous or outrageous comment, but a lot of what Rush says is actually accurate and insightful. That was my impression when I read his stuff for a few weeks a few years ago. The liberals cherry pick the shock value statements to paint him as an idiot.

Rush is not an idiot. Neither is Bill Maher. Neither are many of these talking heads. But they cater to idiots as it often seems some of the most passionate people you find are also the most ignorant. Bill Maher rarely spits out accurate or insightful info. Rush has a bigger volume of BS with a daily 3-hr show, but on a percentage basis he doesn't come close to Maher. And calling Maher's "Real Time" a stand-up or comedy show is a joke. He's often not that funny (unless you're an ignorant liberal) and it's really a political talk show with some humor thrown in. Caters almost exclusively to liberals and the audience has to be damn near 100% liberal.

Claiming these guys are any sort of leader of their respective parties is about as ignorant as the people who gobble-up everything they say as gospel. They are "popular", relatively speaking, but the portion of their audiences that actually "follow" and are influenced by them for much more than entertainment is likely fairly small. Honestly, I think liberals might make-up the biggest portion of Rush's audience - they're the only ones that ever seem to think the guy is worth quoting.

Rush is smart enough to laugh at the people who believe what he says all the way to the bank.

Sorry, Bill Maher is a comedian. I think that a lot of his stuff is really funny. This one was very funny!

[video=youtube;RtLEPPgbNyM][/video]

I Wear Pants

http://defendrush.org/

gut

Bigdogg;1109100 wrote: Sorry, Bill Maher is a comedian. I think that a lot of his stuff is really funny. This one was very funny!

The bulk of Real Time is not comedy, it's political discourse. It's political commentary with some humor bits thrown in. Bill Maher being a comedian doesn't trump or invalidate views he expresses on that show which are clearly not intended as jokes. In that regard, it's a double-standard to write it off to humor when Maher says something that get Rush in hot water for something similar. I mean, is calling Palin's daughter a slut funny? Maher gets a pass because he's a comedian? No, it's not funny because it's not a joke, it's an attack and it's the sort of thing that gets Rush (like calling what's her slut) into trouble all the time.

Just because Rush is a political talk show host doesn't bar him from attempts at humor. Putting aspirin between their legs is actually pretty funny, and it's also a bit self-deprecating because it's an over-the-top ignorant statement intended to inject a bit of humor while making a point, which it does rather effectively (but apparently many liberals aren't bright enough to grasp the subtle point and can only take a comment literally that was obviously not intended to be taken literally). If Bill Maher said it, people would laugh. But Bill Maher would never say that.

I Wear Pants

Maher gets a pass because as a comedian and being advertised and promoted as a comedic show we assume that they're saying things for laughs.

Rush does the reverse, advertises as a political talk guy/commentary person who says things that are ridiculous and bigoted and then tries to say he's a comedian.

gut

I Wear Pants;1109144 wrote:Maher gets a pass because as a comedian and being advertised and promoted as a comedic show we assume that they're saying things for laughs.

Rush does the reverse, advertises as a political talk guy/commentary person who says things that are ridiculous and bigoted and then tries to say he's a comedian.

That's a double-standard. Only part of Maher's show is stand-up/comedy. And, again, Rush is absolutely free to crack a joke. You're saying Maher has more free speech than Rush just because he's a comedian, and it's BS. An attack is an attack. When Maher is doing stand-up on his show, I agree with you. When he's interviewing a guest or discussing issues of the day, he doesn't get to hide behind artistic license as a comedian any more than Rush does. Rush is an entertainer, that's obvious. That's a pretty fine line you're trying to walk attempting to differentiate between entertainer and comedian. Howard Stern is an entertainer, and his show has all kinds of humor and bits.

But let's go another example. Andrew Dice Clay got tons of criticism and was considered hateful, obscene, racist, mysoginistic, etc... He didn't get a pass for being a comedian, and he got it from both Repubs and Liberals. Maher gets a pass from liberals because they view him as one of them, and at least on Real Time he is. It's not much different than Repubs not chastising Rush. Big difference, though, is only Liberals are hypocrtical enough to call out one and not the other.

gut

What is it about Rush, anyway, that elicits such outrage from Liberals? If the guy is such an ignorant idiot, why is he even worth their time? Common sense says Rush does make his share of valid and pertinent points, which Liberals see as a threat. And like they typically do with dissenting views they try to crush the messenger when they can't refute the message.

bigdaddy2003

gut;1109168 wrote:What is it about Rush, anyway, that elicits such outrage from Liberals? If the guy is such an ignorant idiot, why is he even worth their time? Common sense says Rush does make his share of valid and pertinent points, which Liberals see as a threat. And like they typically do with dissenting views they try to crush the messenger when they can't refute the message.

I have to agree with this. I also don't know of the plethora of bigoted statements that he has supposedly made. If someone could show me the way I would greatly appreciate it.

QuakerOats

fish82;1109014 wrote:Too late. Just sayin.

Well played.

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