Has Rush gone too far?

• Thread Bomber

  

  It proves the old righty Montra ....
  
  
  "Principals are great, until they fuck with your wallet......
• bigdaddy2003

  

  I can't even count how many people on Twitter have said that Sandra Fluke is a hero. This is what our country has become?
• IggyPride00

  

  The left put a huge hook out there, and the Right wing media allowed themselves to get pulled in.
  
  This Sandra Fluke is a total ringer. She is no 23 year old doe eyed college coed as she has been portrayed, but a 30 year old avowed hardcore leftist who was once head of the reproductive justice league and has worked with NOW (National Organization of Women).
  
  She was up there at the behest of Nancy Pelosi to promote left win causes. Rush and other Republican commentators though just couldn't help themselves, and turned a hardcore feminazi into a modern day Joan of Arc because they couldn't just ignore her and move on.
  
  This is all part of a concerted plan by the left to keep all the focus away from the economy/gas prices and other Obama failures and on issues that make the right wing look like whackos.
  
  You just can't allow yourself to get hooked like that. Can't do it, as it is playing right into Barry's playbook.
• Little Danny

  

  IggyPride00;1105066 wrote:The left put a huge hook out there, and the Right wing media allowed themselves to get pulled in.
  
  This Sandra Fluke is a total ringer. She is no 23 year old doe eyed college coed as she has been portrayed, but a 30 year old avowed hardcore leftist who was once head of the reproductive justice league and has worked with NOW (National Organization of Women).
  
  She was up there at the behest of Nancy Pelosi to promote left win causes. Rush and other Republican commentators though just couldn't help themselves, and turned a hardcore feminazi into a modern day Joan of Arc because they couldn't just ignore her and move on.
  
  This is all part of a concerted plan by the left to keep all the focus away from the economy/gas prices and other Obama failures and on issues that make the right wing look like whackos.
  
  You just can't allow yourself to get hooked like that. Can't do it, as it is playing right into Barry's playbook.

  This.
• stlouiedipalma

  Manhattan Buckeye;1104227 wrote:No. The appointment is covered by insurance, what do you have, a $20 co-pay? Pills shouldn't cost more than $40/month, and that is on the expensive end.
  
  Why does the "left" lie so much? What good it gain? Do you think everyone is so stupid to not pick out the BS? Hundreds of thousands of young women use birth control, do you really think it costs $1,000/year?
  
  I'm at a loss.

  The point some of us are trying to make is that if your health care provider doesn't cover a particular medication, you pay full price for it. Believe me, I'm damned happy that I only have to pay $10 or $20 for prescription medication that is covered under my plan. Without that, I would be in hock. And, yes, when I switched to Wal Mart last month my one-month supply of 40mg Lipitor (generic) would have been $159 without health insurance. Do the math. There are folks out there who don't have "cadillac" coverage and it's easy to see how they can rack up big-time debt just to keep up with their medications.
  
  
  Rush has now lost seven sponsors. He can talk all he wants about his massive audience, but without the sponsors' dollars he knows he won't be on very much longer. That's why he issued his "apology". It wasn't because he suddenly saw the light. It was a financial decision, pure and simple.
• stlouiedipalma

  Little Danny;1105268 wrote:This.

  And Dan Issa's little committee hearing wasn't politically motivated?
• gut

  Funny how liberals keep telling us Rush is the leader of the Republican party, but the only time I hear anything from him or about him is when liberals are complaining about something he's said.
• believer

  

  gut;1105379 wrote:Funny how liberals keep telling us Rush is the leader of the Republican party, but the only time I hear anything from him or about him is when liberals are complaining about something he's said.

  And that's usually only after the leftist MSM media deems the "Rush-ism" important enough to report.
• fish82

  

  stlouiedipalma;1105359 wrote:The point some of us are trying to make is that if your health care provider doesn't cover a particular medication, you pay full price for it. Believe me, I'm damned happy that I only have to pay $10 or $20 for prescription medication that is covered under my plan. Without that, I would be in hock. And, yes, when I switched to Wal Mart last month my one-month supply of 40mg Lipitor (generic) would have been $159 without health insurance. Do the math. There are folks out there who don't have "cadillac" coverage and it's easy to see how they can rack up big-time debt just to keep up with their medications.
  
  
  Rush has now lost seven sponsors. He can talk all he wants about his massive audience, but without the sponsors' dollars he knows he won't be on very much longer. That's why he issued his "apology". It wasn't because he suddenly saw the light. It was a financial decision, pure and simple.

  Liptor =/= Birth Control pills. Retail price on them is no more than $50 monthly, and often as low as $20-25.
  
  The line of potential sponsors for Rush is long...the ones who left will be quickly replaced. I guarantee there won't be any dead air during the commercial breaks.
• Manhattan Buckeye

  "The point some of us are trying to make is that if your health care provider doesn't cover a particular medication, you pay full price for it."
  
  What price is that? A few bucks at Kroger or Wal-mart. This isn't Lipitor, its a contraceptive that's been available for decades. Why is the government involved in this? Why do you think the government should be involved in this?
  
  I'll tell you why I think the government shouldn't be involved in this, from a Liberal perspective. A condom or birth control pill is useless unless it is used correctly and responsibly. Ms. Fluke can buy (or in her mind, use other taxpayers' money to buy) as many condoms as she wants in a year but if she doesn't use them it is a sunk cost. To the extent that birth control is taxpayer funded, the government, and ergo the taxpayers have an interest in that it is being used correctly. Thus we have an interest in what happens in the bedroom, the exact opposite stance that the Liberals argued with respect to abortion.
• IggyPride00

  

  If Rush Limbaugh doesn't want 4 more years of BHO he needs to give a good apology on air today and make this go away.
  
  $4 dollar gas, a sluggish recovery, we are hearing about none of it because this (and the whole birth control debate itself) is sucking all the air out of the room.
  
  While Conservative commentators are wasting time on shit like this BHO's approval ratings are improving, and he is flying under the radar while the right is looking radicalized and out of touch.
• Skyhook79

  

  IggyPride00;1105535 wrote:If Rush Limbaugh doesn't want 4 more years of BHO he needs to give a good apology on air today and make this go away.
  
  $4 dollar gas, a sluggish recovery, we are hearing about none of it because this (and the whole birth control debate itself) is sucking all the air out of the room.
  
  While Conservative commentators are wasting time on shit like this BHO's approval ratings are improving, and he is flying under the radar while the right is looking radicalized and out of touch.

  
  
  
• gut

  IggyPride00;1105535 wrote:If Rush Limbaugh doesn't want 4 more years of BHO he needs to give a good apology on air today and make this go away.

  I don't think he really has that kind of impact. His loyal, die-hard listeners are too ignorant to be swayed by anything, and most others view him as nothing more than a shock politico. I think it's a liberal pipe dream that making this all about Rush is going to somehow significantly impact the election in any meaningful way. It won't. Like I said, they keep trying to paint him as a leader of the Republican party so they can have someone to villify, but I don't see it. I think most independents are bright enough to see all this (and Rush) for what it is.
  
  Hard to believe the guy has 20M+ listeners. I think half of those must be liberals waiting for him to say something that they can collectively get their panties in a bunch over.
• queencitybuckeye

  Thread Bomber;1104556 wrote:It proves the old righty Montra ....
  
  
  "Principals are great, until they fuck with your wallet......

  principles*
• Con_Alma

  If a Chief interfered with my wallet I'd be upset too.
• pmoney25

  

  Iggy is right. The liberals are having a field day with this issue. Taking focus off jobs and energy where obama is a massive failure.
  
  The republicans lost control of the issue, it is no longer about freedom of religion but about womens rights. The media is spinnig it that way.
  
  Focus on winning and then deal with obamacare
• gut

  pmoney25;1105663 wrote:Iggy is right. The liberals are having a field day with this issue. Taking focus off jobs and energy where obama is a massive failure.
  
  The republicans lost control of the issue, it is no longer about freedom of religion but about womens rights. The media is spinnig it that way.
  
  Focus on winning and then deal with obamacare

  They need to get some gay John Holmes dude to go out and demand his condoms be reimbursed, or maybe the dude that knocked-up Palin's daughter. Just unbalance the whole equation.
• Heretic

  

  justincredible;1103457 wrote:I bet there is at least one intelligent person that listens to him.

  Well, if there's intelligent people anywhere who listen to ICP, there are intelligent people listening to Rush. I mean, overall, both have equally stupid fanbases, but that doesn't mean there can't be a few outliers amongst their followings.
• QuakerOats

  pmoney25;1105663 wrote:Iggy is right. The liberals are having a field day with this issue. Taking focus off jobs and energy where obama is a massive failure.
  
  The republicans lost control of the issue, it is no longer about freedom of religion but about womens rights. The media is spinnig it that way.
  
  Focus on winning and then deal with obamacare

  The left stream media will put the focus on anything they want; it has nothing to do with Rush, or Ryan, or Palin, or anyone that can be construed controversial. They simply will shift the focus whenever they want in order to run interference for obama; plain and simple. An apology from Rush is not the answer, and never will be; the state-run media will only contrive something else.
  
  BTW, I am not paying for the younger generations sexual appetites; and Kathleen Sebelius can go fu#$ herself.
• Bigdogg

  BGFalcons82;1103927 wrote:Aren't mandates fun?! This is what happens when our central government commands all to comply. Eventually, everyone gets trampled.
  
  Mandate everyone breathing must have health insurance? Check
  Mandate what policies all health care providers must provide? Check
  Mandate what these policies must cost? Check
  Mandate all health care providers must provide "free" contraception regardless of 1st Amendment violations? Check
  What's next....mandating abortions must be provided "free"...and as often as possible?
  
  For those that think ObamaKare solves all and is the best thing that ever happened since FDR mandated social security for all private citizens, the regulation-writers will eventually write a mandate that affects you in a way you don't want. Remember when it was, "America, land of the free"? Oh, what rotten times those were. We're certainly progressing towards someone's vision of utopia...but it isn't mine.

  Yet you turn a blind eye to the countless mandates put on the people by your favorite political party. Oh the hypocrisy of it all.
• bigdaddy2003

  

  QuakerOats;1105801 wrote:The left stream media will put the focus on anything they want; it has nothing to do with Rush, or Ryan, or Palin, or anyone that can be construed controversial. They simply will shift the focus whenever they want in order to run interference for obama; plain and simple. An apology from Rush is not the answer, and never will be; the state-run media will only contrive something else.
  
  BTW, I am not paying for the younger generations sexual appetites; and Kathleen Sebelius can go fu#$ herself.

  Come on Quaker this is a women's rights issue. You know the Republicans hate women!
  
  /sarcasm
• Bigdogg

  Bottom line is if my employer choses to offer health insurance as a benefit, I should be able to pick and choose what coverage I want and need. If it cost more I see no reason I would not pay for it. From what I understand by talking to people I know in the insurance industry, contraceptives use actually reduce the cost of insurance.
  
  Like I said before, my wife worked in a Catholic hospital where contraceptives were not covered, but viraga was even if there was no documented health needs. Why should my wife have to pay for someone else’s elective boner? It’s the same logic used here by a lot of our misguided friends on here, but they have their head so far up Rush's ass, it's beyond reason.
• Devils Advocate

  

  bigdaddy2003;1105808 wrote:Come on Quaker this is a women's rights issue. You know the Republicans hate women!
  
  /sarcasm

  This is wrong. The Pubs hate people.... Love fetuses, But once they pop out of the pussy... To hell with em.
• I Wear Pants

  pmoney25;1105663 wrote:Iggy is right. The liberals are having a field day with this issue. Taking focus off jobs and energy where obama is a massive failure.
  
  The republicans lost control of the issue, it is no longer about freedom of religion but about womens rights. The media is spinnig it that way.
  
  Focus on winning and then deal with obamacare

  Defending Rush only makes one look like an asshole (not saying you were defending him but just in general).
  
  The focus should be on everything that adds up to our spending problem as well as the trampling of the constitution. Drug law reform, SS/Medicare/Medicaid Reform, taking practical steps to lessen the burden on the welfare system (job training, etc, there has to be a way to provide assistance that isn't simply "here's some money"), lessen defense spending, etc, etc.
  
  As for the Obamacare thing, is it a perfect or even particularly good solution? Likely not. But acting like what we had before was better/ideal is ridiculous.
  
  
  Edit: What I mean by that is we've had health care costs which were rapidly growing far before Obamacare so pointing at your rising health care costs and saying "SEE WHAT OBAMACARE DOES!!!!!" doesn't really show Obamacare to be the cause. Again, it could be causing an increase but simply showing that there has been doesn't mean that because we've had massive increases for a long, long time now.
• jmog

  LJ;1102846 wrote:Those are quite extreme compared to BC pills.

  One of the biggest kept secrets about BC pills is their side effects. Everything from gall bladders being killed to breast cancer. It is kept secret though because it has to be viewed as 100% safe, like taking a sugar pill.
  
  My wife lost her gall bladder due to BC pills, huge tort suit against the BC pill manufacturer over it right now. They keep calling my wife wanting her to sign up.