Can you say ... Speaker Boehner

• Ty Webb

  

  BGFalcons82;536360 wrote:Rasmussen has generic R over generic D by 9 - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot
  
  Real Clear Politics has generic R up by 6 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-901.html Interestingly, if you go to this website, you'll find the Marist/McClatchey poll you tried to tell us about. In the RCP numbers, M/M has it +6 for the generic R, not even as you suggest. RCP is updated as of 10-25.

  
  Rasmsussen....Are you fucking kidding me?
• BGFalcons82

  

  Ty Webb;536364 wrote:Rasmsussen....Are you fucking kidding me?

  
  No I'm not fucking kidding you. Scott Rasmussen nailed the 2006 and 2008 elections when.....that's right...your fuckers won. Got it? I'd rather follow someone that knows how to poll rather than some a-hole that gets paid by their party to poll for them.
• Ty Webb

  

  Don't try to act like Rasmussen doesn't lean heavily towards Republicans
• ohiobucks1

  

  Boehner told everybody at a recent lunch meeting that hes going to when he comes speaker of the house he will "give the dems what he always wanted and never received, a chance to be heard." Godbless bipartisan.
• Ty Webb

  

  ohiobucks1;536383 wrote:Boehner told everybody at a recent lunch meeting that hes going to when he comes speaker of the house he will "give the dems what he always wanted and never received, a chance to be heard." Godbless bipartisan.

  
  Will never happen....Boehner is a prick and will never allow it
• BGFalcons82

  

  Ty Webb;536373 wrote:Don't try to act like Rasmussen doesn't lean heavily towards Republicans

  
  The neat thing about polling is that...in the end...somebody nails the election and others look completely foolish with their outlandish prognostications. In the end, the ones that are the best at predicting the outcomes are rewarded with the distinction of being the best in the business. Rasmussen earned that honor all by himself. If he was so devoted to R's, would he have so accurately predicted the 2006 and 2008 Democratic victories? You can't say he knew his shit then and became a complete imbecile today. Your team is going to take a beating in about 122 hours. I suggest you go out and marshall up some support for the Dems if you want to change these numbers....but the clock is ticking down on you quickly.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  ohiobucks1;536383 wrote:Boehner told everybody at a recent lunch meeting that hes going to when he comes speaker of the house he will "give the dems what he always wanted and never received, a chance to be heard." Godbless bipartisan.

  
  I've heard that before......in 2002, 2004, 2006, and 2008.
  
  I'll believe it when I see it.
• QuakerOats

  Ty Webb;536387 wrote:Will never happen....Boehner is a prick and will never allow it

  
  God I hope so; I am sick of republicans winning and then reaching back across the aisle and governing like dems.
  
  Those days had better be over!
• fish82

  

  Ty Webb;536387 wrote:Will never happen....Boehner is a prick and will never allow it

  Okay, I'm ready to make my pick in the pool. Gibby's head explodes at 10:17 pm on Tuesday night.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;536404 wrote:God I hope so; I am sick of republicans winning and then reaching back across the aisle and governing like dems.
  
  Those days had better be over!

  
  Reaching across the aisle is how you solve problems.
  The problem the last 10 years is whatever party has been in power has pretty much screwed the other one. It is a childish game that is annoying as hell. True bipartisanship is the only way we can get out of this mess.
• Ty Webb

  

  fish82;536423 wrote:Okay, I'm ready to make my pick in the pool. Gibby's head explodes at 10:17 pm on Tuesday night.

  
  http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/28/robopolls_tend_to_favor_republicans.html
  
  As I've said before(I'll repeat it for those like fish who can't read)
  
  Tuesday will not bother me...I've know it's coming for a long time. It doesn't bother me because I know the Republicans are too stupid to keep their majority too long,and therefor we will regain the House and President Obama will get re-elected in 2012.
  
  I'm thinking that alot of good will come out of Tuesday for us Democrats
• believer

  

  Ty Webb;536578 wrote:I'm thinking that alot of good will come out of Tuesday for us Democrats

  Atta boy, Gibster...way to keep your head up!
• fish82

  

  Ty Webb;536578 wrote:http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/28/robopolls_tend_to_favor_republicans.html
  
  As I've said before(I'll repeat it for those like fish who can't read)
  
  Tuesday will not bother me...I've know it's coming for a long time. It doesn't bother me because I know the Republicans are too stupid to keep their majority too long,and therefor we will regain the House and President Obama will get re-elected in 2012.
  
  I'm thinking that alot of good will come out of Tuesday for us Democrats

  How long is a "long time?" Four weeks ago you were guaranteeing the house would remain Dem. Don't bruise yourself with all that flopping, Junior.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  Ty Webb;536578 wrote:http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/28/robopolls_tend_to_favor_republicans.html
  
  As I've said before(I'll repeat it for those like fish who can't read)
  
  Tuesday will not bother me...I've know it's coming for a long time. It doesn't bother me because I know the Republicans are too stupid to keep their majority too long,and therefor we will regain the House and President Obama will get re-elected in 2012.
  
  I'm thinking that alot of good will come out of Tuesday for us Democrats

  
  Ever the optimist I'll give ya that.
  The thing is, it is hard to forecast 2012. A lot can happen between now and then to either really help or hurt the D's.
• Ty Webb

  

  fish82;536606 wrote:How long is a "long time?" Four weeks ago you were guaranteeing the house would remain Dem. Don't bruise yourself with all that flopping, Junior.

  
  Did I want it to happen??? NO
  
  But I've known it was going to happen since May or June
• QuakerOats

  ptown_trojans_1;536425 wrote: True bipartisanship is the only way we can get out of this mess.

  
  WRONG; that is exactly how we got into it. Either the liberals agree to massive reductions in government, or the ship sinks.
• BGFalcons82

  

  QuakerOats;536632 wrote:WRONG; that is exactly how we got into it. Either the liberals agree to massive reductions in government, or the ship sinks.

  
  No more RINO's. No more Dem Lite. No more socialism. No more government largesse. No more, Barry....no more.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  QuakerOats;536632 wrote:WRONG; that is exactly how we got into it. Either the liberals agree to massive reductions in government, or the ship sinks.

  Hahaha. Man, this is so messed up, I don't even know where to begin.
  
  The whole concept of one party rule, where one side, D or R, forces the other one to cave to its point of view is so flawed.
  Over the past 20 years, when one party has had control in Congress, nothing good has come from it. Whether it is the R's in the early 2000s who really pushed the D's around and ran up the debt, or the D's in 2006-current, who did the same thing to the R's and run up more debt, the concept of one party needs to force the other to follow its ways is wrong.
  
  If you look at the modern Congress, the only way we got ourselves out of big holes was to work together, to cross the aisle and come to common agreements. Think about it, in the 80s it was Reagan and Tip O'Neil, and in the 90s it was Clinton and Newt. It was not one party saying to the other do this or the world will end (Newt came close, but backed off), it was some rhetoric, but ultimately, a discussion on what common ideas could liberals and conservatives come to to solve the major problems.
  
  Also, the R's will not have enough power in the House or the Senate to do just what they want. It cannot and will not happen, that is why the founding fathers put so many checks in the system. It stopped D's from their agenda and it will stop R's from theirs. It is impossible to do things in this town without the other party, unless there is that rare instance where there is a "supermajority" (But we saw what that got the D's-nothing)
  
  Why should a liberal in California be forced to adhere to the conservative way when 1. they fundamentally disagree with it, just as a conservative fundamentally disagrees with them, and 2. they have a liberal voting bloc back home that is not going to turn conservative any time soon.
  
  The broader debate over government-liberal vs. conservative, Jefferson vs. Madison goes all the way back to the founding fathers and is not going away. There is no way to force a liberal to vote for a strong conservative plan. It is not going to happen, just as a conservative is not going to vote for a liberal plan, and just as an OSU fan will root for Michigan in the OSU-Michigan game. It is not happening.
  
  Therefore, with those differences that are so fundamentally opposed, the only way to avoid gridlock and further arguing, it is negotiate and work together.
  Yes, both parties have screwed up the country, but it will honestly take both parties to fix it. Liberals and conservatives need to come away from the fringes and instead come to common agreement on practical steps that can reduce the debt, limit government takeovers, build the private sector, and get us out of this mess.
  
  Saying one party will drive it is naive and honestly avoids American history and the way the American government functions.
• BoatShoes

  QuakerOats;536632 wrote:WRONG; that is exactly how we got into it. Either the liberals agree to massive reductions in government, or the ship sinks.

  
  I got a tweet from the Heritage Foundation today pointing out how "America doesn't want to cut defense spending" and therefore we shouldn't. Keep believing a fantasy. Your facial decorators are doing their part.
• I Wear Pants

  ptown_trojans_1;536666 wrote:Hahaha. Man, this is so messed up, I don't even know where to begin.
  
  The whole concept of one party rule, where one side, D or R, forces the other one to cave to its point of view is so flawed.
  Over the past 20 years, when one party has had control in Congress, nothing good has come from it. Whether it is the R's in the early 2000s who really pushed the D's around and ran up the debt, or the D's in 2006-current, who did the same thing to the R's and run up more debt, the concept of one party needs to force the other to follow its ways is wrong.
  
  If you look at the modern Congress, the only way we got ourselves out of big holes was to work together, to cross the aisle and come to common agreements. Think about it, in the 80s it was Reagan and Tip O'Neil, and in the 90s it was Clinton and Newt. It was not one party saying to the other do this or the world will end (Newt came close, but backed off), it was some rhetoric, but ultimately, a discussion on what common ideas could liberals and conservatives come to to solve the major problems.
  
  Also, the R's will not have enough power in the House or the Senate to do just what they want. It cannot and will not happen, that is why the founding fathers put so many checks in the system. It stopped D's from their agenda and it will stop R's from theirs. It is impossible to do things in this town without the other party, unless there is that rare instance where there is a "supermajority" (But we saw what that got the D's-nothing)
  
  Why should a liberal in California be forced to adhere to the conservative way when 1. they fundamentally disagree with it, just as a conservative fundamentally disagrees with them, and 2. they have a liberal voting bloc back home that is not going to turn conservative any time soon.
  
  The broader debate over government-liberal vs. conservative, Jefferson vs. Madison goes all the way back to the founding fathers and is not going away. There is no way to force a liberal to vote for a strong conservative plan. It is not going to happen, just as a conservative is not going to vote for a liberal plan, and just as an OSU fan will root for Michigan in the OSU-Michigan game. It is not happening.
  
  Therefore, with those differences that are so fundamentally opposed, the only way to avoid gridlock and further arguing, it is negotiate and work together.
  Yes, both parties have screwed up the country, but it will honestly take both parties to fix it. Liberals and conservatives need to come away from the fringes and instead come to common agreement on practical steps that can reduce the debt, limit government takeovers, build the private sector, and get us out of this mess.
  
  Saying one party will drive it is naive and honestly avoids American history and the way the American government functions.

  Well said.
  
  The idea that one party is to blame for our troubles or that one party is going to fix them is idiotic.
• QuakerOats

  flashback ..........
• stlouiedipalma

  I'm still waiting on Boehner to get all of the jobs back. I suppose he is waiting until after the New Year to work his magic. The clock is ticking...
  
  
  
  18 months goes by awfully fast. I hope the Speaker and his cronies can pull a rabbit out of their hats.
• BGFalcons82

  

  stlouiedipalma;608564 wrote:I'm still waiting on Boehner to get all of the jobs back. I suppose he is waiting until after the New Year to work his magic. The clock is ticking...

  
  What. The. Hell?
  
  Clock ticking? Huh? What clock? When did it start? Who is Speaker of the House right now? How many of the 70+ new Republicans have been seated again? It's over before it even starts, eh?
  
  I will give you this much. The jobs will start coming back. In my industry, I'm beginning to see activity picking up, so it's coming next year. It will probably come soon enough so Obama can claim credit that he's successful because the Tea Party stopped him dead in his tracks from doing what he wanted to do. Only in politics can an ass-whoopin be seen as a correct policy.
• QuakerOats

  QuakerOats;429761 wrote:Leftist congress down to 11% ------------ November cannot arrive soon enough.
  
  http://www.gallup.com/poll/141512/Congress-Ranks-Last-Confidence-Institutions.aspx
  
  I look forward to the implementation of Boehner's 3 main goals should he become speaker of the house:
  
  Repeal obamacare
  
  Prevent Cap-n-Tax
  
  Keep taxes low
  
  Now there is some real ...................... change we can believe in !!

  http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/5/partisan-lines-take-center-stage-congress-convenes/
  
  Ladies and Gentlemen, please hold your applause ................
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Just happened to turn the TV on as he was being installed as Speaker, and got to hear Ms. Pelousy say a few words as she handed over the gavel. What a dipstick the woman is. She made a big deal of mentioning that the gavel Boehner will be using is bigger than any other in the House.
  
  Ummmm so what?
  
  It just struck me as odd and her trying to get in some little dig at him on her way out. But maybe I'm reading too much into it because I can't stand that ugly bitch.