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  • stlouiedipalma
    Didn't Gingrich and his comrades try to shut down the government back in the 90's? Didn't that just about seal the deal on Clinton's re-election?


    And when the R's take over Congress does that mean that everything will suddenly be OK again? Remember, the cycle is a little under 2 years. If they don't turn everything around by then they should be voted out, right?
  • fish82
    stlouiedipalma;521133 wrote:Didn't Gingrich and his comrades try to shut down the government back in the 90's? Didn't that just about seal the deal on Clinton's re-election?


    And when the R's take over Congress does that mean that everything will suddenly be OK again? Remember, the cycle is a little under 2 years. If they don't turn everything around by then they should be voted out, right?
    They actually did shut it down for a few weeks if memory serves. And yes, Clinton successfully demagogued it to it to his advantage for re-election. Ironically, he also caved to about 90% of the Pubs' demands in the end...thus leading to the "balanced" budget circa 1999-2000.

    And with the current mood of the electorate, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see congress flip back the other way in 2 years if there isn't significant improvement.
  • QuakerOats
    Dem's stooping to new lows ........

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/house-races/124967-pa-democrat-admits-helping-tea-party-candidate
  • Ty Webb

    You act like Republicans don't do this all the time

    And he said the DNC or NDCC had nothing to do with this....he said it was all his campaign
  • fish82
    Ty Webb;526016 wrote:You act like Republicans don't do this all the time

    And he said the DNC or NDCC had nothing to do with this....he said it was all his campaign
    Oh. Well, gosh, that makes it all better, doesn't it? ;)

    If pubs do this "all the time," you should be able to google several examples over the past 6 months. Ready? Go.
  • jhay78
    How about Harry Reid- encouraging "3rd Party" candidates, who would cause votes to be split among Republicans/Tea Party/ Independents.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/09/facing-dismal-poll-numbers-reid-welcomes-party-candidates-senate-race/

    This clown in PA wasn't the first, and won't be the last, Democrat to resort to this type of stuff.
  • Thread Bomber
    Independant and 3rd parties have a history of effin up the election process. But I have never known of a candidate "encouraging" a third part to run.
  • Ty Webb
    Poll Shows Surge in Democratic Enthusiasm
    Contrary to nearly every other recent poll, a new Newsweek survey shows Democrats leading Republicans in the generic congressional ballot, 48% to 42%, among registered voters. Among those who have already voted, Democrats lead by 10 points, 52% to 42%.

    The poll also shows President Obama's approval ratings have jumped substantially to 54%, while the portion of respondents who disapprove of the president dropped to 40%.

    Said pollster Larry Hugick: "The idea that the Democrats are just going to sit this one out doesn't seem very likely. While there's no question that Republicans are going to pick up seats, the question is how many."

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/23/poll_shows_surge_in_democratic_enthusiasm.html
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Ty Webb;529713 wrote:Poll Shows Surge in Democratic Enthusiasm
    Contrary to nearly every other recent poll, a new Newsweek survey shows Democrats leading Republicans in the generic congressional ballot, 48% to 42%, among registered voters. Among those who have already voted, Democrats lead by 10 points, 52% to 42%.

    The poll also shows President Obama's approval ratings have jumped substantially to 54%, while the portion of respondents who disapprove of the president dropped to 40%.

    Said pollster Larry Hugick: "The idea that the Democrats are just going to sit this one out doesn't seem very likely. While there's no question that Republicans are going to pick up seats, the question is how many."

    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/23/poll_shows_surge_in_democratic_enthusiasm.html

    Sorry, Newsweek is not a reliable source.
    Yes, the D's will probably come out a little more than anticipated. But, it won't matter.
  • fish82
    House - 62 seats.

    Senate - 8 seats.

    Mark it down. :cool:
  • Ty Webb
    ptown_trojans_1;529870 wrote:Sorry, Newsweek is not a reliable source.
    Yes, the D's will probably come out a little more than anticipated. But, it won't matter.

    Why,because Democrats are starting to look a little better ptown?
  • Ty Webb
    fish82;529982 wrote:House - 62 seats.

    Senate - 8 seats.

    Mark it down. :cool:
    No way
  • BGFalcons82
    Originally Posted by fish82
    House - 62 seats.

    Senate - 8 seats.

    Mark it down.
    No way

    Way.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Ty Webb;529998 wrote:Why,because Democrats are starting to look a little better ptown?

    No, because Newsweek is a joke around the town for 1. (they are broke) and 2. they are too left leaning to give them any credibility.
  • Ty Webb
    But FOX has credibility right??
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Ty Webb;531099 wrote:But FOX has credibility right??

    Hell no. Neither does CNN, or MSNBC.
  • Ty Webb
    Your ignorant if you think CNN had no credibility
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Ty Webb;531114 wrote:Your ignorant if you think CNN had no credibility

    Had as in past tense-yes. Now, not really. None of the cable news outlets have any credibility to me. Fox plays to the right, MSNBC to the left and CNN doesn't play to anyone, but still is all over the map and brings nothing to any conversation.

    Back to the topic, I can see moderate gains by the R's. I see them taking the House, but not the Senate.
  • Ty Webb
    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/28/democrats_catch_republicans_in_generic_ballot.html
  • jhay78
    Unfortunately, Gibby, "Generic" is not on the ballot for Senator, Governor, or US Representative in any state or district in the entire US.
  • Ty Webb
    Response I thought Republicans would give
  • QuakerOats
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/house/2010_elections_house_map.html

    Now there's some ........................ change we can believe in ............
  • Ty Webb
    QuakerOats;536352 wrote:http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2010/house/2010_elections_house_map.html

    Now there's some ........................ change we can believe in ............

    Why don't you post the Senate map Quaker...I seem to remember you say "the Republicans will end up with between 55-60 seats"
  • BGFalcons82

    Rasmussen has generic R over generic D by 9 - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot

    Real Clear Politics has generic R up by 6 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-901.html Interestingly, if you go to this website, you'll find the Marist/McClatchey poll you tried to tell us about. In the RCP numbers, M/M has it +6 for the generic R, not even as you suggest. RCP is updated as of 10-25.
  • Ty Webb
    BGFalcons82;536360 wrote:Rasmussen has generic R over generic D by 9 - http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot

    Real Clear Politics has generic R up by 6 - http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/generic_congressional_vote-901.html Interestingly, if you go to this website, you'll find the Marist/McClatchey poll you tried to tell us about. In the RCP numbers, M/M has it +6 for the generic R, not even as you suggest. RCP is updated as of 10-25.

    http://maristpoll.marist.edu/1028-turnout-key-for-midterm-elections/