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  • QuakerOats
    Ty Webb;837585 wrote:CNN reports a MAJOR debt limit deal is looming and could be finalized in the next 24-36 hours


    Try again --- liberals have to be able to steal more of your money, or no deal. What a bunch of #$@^*suckers.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-21/grand-bargain-returns-to-u-s-debt-talks-as-negotiators-open-paths-to-deal.html
  • derek bomar
    You can take this to the bank. Obama will win the election. There isn't a viable republican option. Romney did Obamacare before Obamacare wasn't cool...so he's out. Bachman is a loon. Hermain Cain is insane. Pawlenty is boring.

    I will bet anyone $100. And I'll pay if i am wrong...but I won't be.

    The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be.
  • I Wear Pants
    That's pretty much where I'm at now. I mean. I'm probably a little bit more inclined to agree with some of Obama's choices than most here but I certainly don't think he's been good so far.

    But I do think he will get reelected.
  • jmog
    BGFalcons82;837609 wrote:I thought we were a democracy??? How dare you inject the "R" word into the equation. ;)

    Actually we are a representative democracy which by definition is a replublic.

    The pledge to the flag calls us a republic.
  • Con_Alma
    jmog;837809 wrote:Actually we are a representative democracy which by definition is a replublic.

    The pledge to the flag calls us a republic.
    We are a constitutional republic.
  • gut
    QuakerOats;837675 wrote:Try again --- liberals have to be able to steal more of your money, or no deal. What a bunch of #$@^*suckers.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-21/grand-bargain-returns-to-u-s-debt-talks-as-negotiators-open-paths-to-deal.html

    Heck of a deal...We increase the debt over $4 trillion in about 2.5 years, and can't agree on $3trillion in cuts over TEN YEARS. Does anyone else not see the problem here? Not to mention, with the exception of adjusting the inflation calculation, most of that $3trillion in cuts is only a target and not specifically identified, which is probably why we routinely end-up coming far short of the target in these deals.
  • BGFalcons82
    jmog;837809 wrote:Actually we are a representative democracy which by definition is a replublic.

    The pledge to the flag calls us a republic.

    I was just tweaking the libs who run around claiming we're a democracy, which is what Europe is full of, when we are not one. A European style democracy is the lib's wet dream.

    The wink smiley could use an upgrade cuz it's hard to see.
  • believer
    derek bomar;837697 wrote:You can take this to the bank. Obama will win the election. There isn't a viable republican option. Romney did Obamacare before Obamacare wasn't cool...so he's out. Bachman is a loon. Hermain Cain is insane. Pawlenty is boring.

    I will bet anyone $100. And I'll pay if i am wrong...but I won't be.

    The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be.
    You may be right but regardless of who the final Repub candidate is the race will be a lot tighter than the Obama camp will want to admit.

    By the way, I recall similar observations from people, especially the media, about Carter a year before Reagan kicked his inept ass to the curb by landslide. Still plenty of time.
  • gut
    believer;837887 wrote:You may be right but regardless of who the final Repub candidate is the race will be a lot tighter than the Obama camp will want to admit.

    By the way, I recall similar observations from people, especially the media, about Carter a year before Reagan kicked his inept ass to the curb by landslide. Still plenty of time.

    You also have to understand the voting in such polls. If I really want a candidate other than Romney, I probably wound not bolster his candidacy by picking him over Obama. However, if Romney is on the ticket when I step into the booth, I would certainly take him over Obama.

    Unless I see a dramatic reversal from Obama (which the Dems will probably not allow, to begin with), I would vote for three-legged chicken over Obama. I'm not kidding. Obama is an unmitigated disaster with regard to the economy/budget, and I think a lot of independents and voters in the middle are going to be picking the Repub regardless of who that is. Certainly Obama got more than a few votes from people in 2008 who were going to pick the Dem regardless of what their choices were.

    And it's not fair to lay all this on Obama, as the problem certainly extends to both parties. However, he clearly has not demonstrated the leadership or the fortitude to bring us out of this mess. It starts at the top and it's a lot easier to change 1 person in the POTUS than toss all the dead wood in Congress.
  • Writerbuckeye
    Yep. This election will be a flip flop of the last one.

    Instead of ABB (anyone but Bush (or who even comes close to Bush) it will be ABO.
  • fish82
    derek bomar;837697 wrote:You can take this to the bank. Obama will win the election. There isn't a viable republican option. Romney did Obamacare before Obamacare wasn't cool...so he's out. Bachman is a loon. Hermain Cain is insane. Pawlenty is boring.

    I will bet anyone $100. And I'll pay if i am wrong...but I won't be.

    The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be.
    He has the power of incumbency and a shitload of money. That works to his advantage way more than your perceived shortcomings of the current pub field.

    The only thing I'm sure of is that we'll be up pretty damn late on election night, regardless of who the pubs nominate.
  • believer
    gut;837983 wrote:It starts at the top and it's a lot easier to change 1 person in the POTUS than toss all the dead wood in Congress.
    I agree. If the economy is still in the tank a year from now, it'll be the Repubs using the "It's the economy, stupid" mantra.
  • BGFalcons82
    derek bomar;837697 wrote:You can take this to the bank. Obama will win the election. There isn't a viable republican option. Romney did Obamacare before Obamacare wasn't cool...so he's out. Bachman is a loon. Hermain Cain is insane. Pawlenty is boring.

    I will bet anyone $100. And I'll pay if i am wrong...but I won't be.

    The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be.

    Romney is the last best alternative.
    Cain may sound insane to anyone whom isn't a career politician, but we've elected far less qualified candidates...like the one we have now. Probably not a good choice due to his lack of foreign policy knowledge, but only that.
    Pawlenty is the anti-Obama in terms of charisma. That would make him a bad POTUS, eh? Hell, he's got more of it than Gerry Ford and the Peanut Farmer had, though. So be it.
    Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
    It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)

    And defeating him just as badly as Ronnie whooped Mr. Peanut.

    You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.
  • gut
    BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.

    Oh, I don't expect Barry to run on his record. He will attempt to mitigate that as much as possible blaming Congress and probably Bush, again. He'll crank-up the fear and doomsday scenarios and somehow try to convince people he's made us better off.

    On a related note, I think it was the wrong approach to play the evil Wall Street card and somewhat of the bailouts. If it was me, I'd be showing the positive ROI on those bailouts (including tax receipts and other loss avoidance, such as PBGC), not to mention potentially avoiding a deeper recession, but the Dem party line prevents that approach. Not that Obama deserves blame or credit for that, but it will be spun as a negative when it could be a positive if the electorate really understood the economics at work.
  • believer
    BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
    lol Don't forget that the media will also want to know if she's a spitter or a swallower.
    BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)
    Agreed....precisely why I keep saying, "There's still plenty of time."
    BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.
    In all fairness to DB, he did say, "The above confidence I have in him winning doesn't translate into me thinking he should be elected...I just think he will be."

    But for all the reasons you've pointed out and for the simple fact that the Bammer is a friggin DISASTER, I believe Obama's in serious trouble.
  • derek bomar
    if anyone is watching what Obama is saying right now, how can you not honestly agree with him? My fiance, who works in Republican State government just said "he's going to be fucking championed...this was his best speech ever. It was simple, and clear to understand."
    you may not like him, but Jesus he literally is offering to Republicans what they want, and they still won't budge. This is getting fucking retarded.
  • derek bomar
    BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Romney is the last best alternative.
    Cain may sound insane to anyone whom isn't a career politician, but we've elected far less qualified candidates...like the one we have now. Probably not a good choice due to his lack of foreign policy knowledge, but only that.
    Pawlenty is the anti-Obama in terms of charisma. That would make him a bad POTUS, eh? Hell, he's got more of it than Gerry Ford and the Peanut Farmer had, though. So be it.
    Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
    It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)

    And defeating him just as badly as Ronnie whooped Mr. Peanut.

    You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.

    did you hear his interview with wallace about Islam?
  • derek bomar
    BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Romney is the last best alternative.
    Cain may sound insane to anyone whom isn't a career politician, but we've elected far less qualified candidates...like the one we have now. Probably not a good choice due to his lack of foreign policy knowledge, but only that.
    Pawlenty is the anti-Obama in terms of charisma. That would make him a bad POTUS, eh? Hell, he's got more of it than Gerry Ford and the Peanut Farmer had, though. So be it.
    Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
    It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)

    And defeating him just as badly as Ronnie whooped Mr. Peanut.

    You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.

    also, wanna bet a hundy on it?
  • fish82
    derek bomar;838174 wrote:if anyone is watching what Obama is saying right now, how can you not honestly agree with him? My fiance, who works in Republican State government just said "he's going to be ****ing championed...this was his best speech ever. It was simple, and clear to understand."
    you may not like him, but Jesus he literally is offering to Republicans what they want, and they still won't budge. This is getting ****ing retarded.
    If you're referring to this briefing, http://www.politico.com/politico44/ then he's not offering jack shit. A trillion over 10 years? Gimme a farking break.
  • coyotes22
    What a moron. His D controlled Senate NEVER made a budget in over 800+ days, but he is calling the R congress "irresponsible"?
    "I cannot believe that Congress would end up being that irresponsible that they would not send a package that avoids a self-inflicted wound to the economy at a time when things are so difficult," he declared.
    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-press-statement-2200-gmt-220257502.html
  • Con_Alma
    No cuts. No deal.

    Nothing has changed.
  • coyotes22
    The party of "Do Nothing, No Ideas" kills budget plan:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/22/senate-votes-to-set-aside-cut-cap-and-balance-plan-proposed-by-house-gop/
  • Ty Webb
    BGFalcons82;838125 wrote:Romney is the last best alternative.
    Cain may sound insane to anyone whom isn't a career politician, but we've elected far less qualified candidates...like the one we have now. Probably not a good choice due to his lack of foreign policy knowledge, but only that.
    Pawlenty is the anti-Obama in terms of charisma. That would make him a bad POTUS, eh? Hell, he's got more of it than Gerry Ford and the Peanut Farmer had, though. So be it.
    Bachmann will never survive the 24/7 news cycle about what she ate for breakfast and if she used her right hand, what color her stool is, and why does she have so much lipstick in her trash can.
    It's going to be Rick Perry or Chris Christie facing off against the annointed one. Rubio will be VP...or maybe Pawlenty, Bachmann, or possible even the evil Palin (OOOoooooohhhh)

    And defeating him just as badly as Ronnie whooped Mr. Peanut.

    You say he'll win because the R's are unqualified in your opinion. Using that reasoning, shouldn't McCain have easily won in 2008 as he far surpassed Barry in experience and Presidential qualifications? People voted for the most ill-vetted, inexperienced, unqualified teleprompter-reader and yet you believe that is still superior to the R's current candidates. Can you offer any reasons, other than the other side sucks, to actually pull the lever for this guy? Is it his economic policy? His deficit fighting stances? His energy policy? His dimwitted choice for VP, "Butthead Biden"? Come on now, Barry has a record he's going to run on and we'd like to know why you think he deserves 4 more years to completely ruin everything.


    You don't honestly believe that do you?
  • gut
    coyotes22;838404 wrote:The party of "Do Nothing, No Ideas" kills budget plan:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/22/senate-votes-to-set-aside-cut-cap-and-balance-plan-proposed-by-house-gop/

    Haha....Caught a blurb the other day of how back in 2006, I think, Harry Reid was railing that this couldn't happen and raising the debt ceiling was unacceptable....now he's saying how it has to be done and irresponsible not to. Classic voter stroking at its best.

    It's not just the Dems....Seriously....Shoot them all.
  • I Wear Pants
    gut;838598 wrote:Haha....Caught a blurb the other day of how back in 2006, I think, Harry Reid was railing that this couldn't happen and raising the debt ceiling was unacceptable....now he's saying how it has to be done and irresponsible not to. Classic voter stroking at its best.

    It's not just the Dems....Seriously....Shoot them all.
    I think you mean...

    Shoot. Them. All.