Disgusted With Obama Administration.

• jhay78

  

  gut;833851 wrote:All I can say is, if you think Obama has any chance of getting re-elected, you better put all your money in cash (and probably not the USD kind) a few weeks before the election.

  
  He has a chance. I never underestimate the American people's ability to foul up a critical election, not to mention a liberal media already in cheerleader mode.
  
  This is why talks are stalling a few weeks before default. The President of the United States is behaving like an adolescent.
  
  http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/272060/paul-ryan-prepares-robert-costa
  

  Ryan, who was elected to Congress in 1998, says Obama is a stark contrast to former president Bill Clinton, who often disagreed with House Republicans but for the most part respectfully engaged with lawmakers. Obama, he says, could learn a couple of things from Clinton, who knew how to negotiate in a divided government. “I was pretty new when Clinton was president,” Ryan says. “But I learned then that presidents serve themselves well when they say the same thing in public as they do in private, dealing with congressional leaders earnestly and honestly.”
  
  “[Obama] has made it harder to establish trust, which will make it harder to find compromise,” Ryan says. “As much as he wants to come off as a leader, every time he talks about Republicans holding out to save fat-cat corporate-jet loopholes — which he knows is false — or leaks alleged spending cuts to the press, he reduces his leadership. He knows how that damages his credibility up here. Yet he continues to spin.”
  
  Indeed, in almost every sense, Ryan says, Obama has been “fundamentally un-presidential” throughout the summer, “dragging his feet, failing to address the looming debt crisis — which he knows is coming — because he remains committed to his ideology.”
  
  “This is, unfortunately, the way he operates,” Ryan says. “This is his pattern of behavior, this is his personality. For the next 18 months, it will probably be like this. It’ll be in-your-face class warfare, with bitter appeals to envy, fear, and anxiety, plus the demonization of the other side’s motives.”
  
  Ryan, usually a happy warrior on fiscal matters, sounds resigned when asked whether he can help Republicans craft a long-term deal with the president to reduce the debt. Obama, he says, has made such a scenario near impossible. He cites Obama’s remarks to CBS News last week, when he said he could not guarantee Social Security payments, as well as the president’s “very personal” criticism of House Majority Leader Eric Cantor at the White House, as examples of the president’s inability to “discuss these issues in good faith.”
  
  “Whenever I hear him speak now, I just shake my head and think, there he goes again,” Ryan says. “When it comes to actually governing, leading and fixing fiscal problems, he is not in the game.” He predicts that, with their votes this week, House Republicans will show that they are.
  

• I Wear Pants

  "It’ll be in-your-face class warfare, with bitter appeals to envy, fear, and anxiety, plus the demonization of the other side’s motives.”
  
  Dude just described Democrats and Republicans. Probably himself too.
• QuakerOats

  Thank you, Mr. Wynn:
  
  http://www.businessinsider.com/wynn-ceo-steve-wynn-conference-call-transcript-obama-2011-7
  
  Via Seeking Alpha, here's the crux of it:
  
  "I believe in Las Vegas. I think its best days are ahead of it. But I'm afraid to do anything in the current political environment in the United States. You watch television and see what's going on on this debt ceiling issue. And what I consider to be a total lack of leadership from the President and nothing's going to get fixed until the President himself steps up and wrangles both parties in Congress. But everybody is so political, so focused on holding their job for the next year that the discussion in Washington is nauseating.
  
  And I'm saying it bluntly, that this administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, and progress and job creation in my lifetime. And I can prove it and I could spend the next 3 hours giving you examples of all of us in this market place that are frightened to death about all the new regulations, our healthcare costs escalate, regulations coming from left and right. A President that seems, that keeps using that word redistribution. Well, my customers and the companies that provide the vitality for the hospitality and restaurant industry, in the United States of America, they are frightened of this administration.And it makes you slow down and not invest your money. Everybody complains about how much money is on the side in America.
  
  You bet and until we change the tempo and the conversation from Washington, it's not going to change. And those of us who have business opportunities and the capital to do it are going to sit in fear of the President. And a lot of people don't want to say that. They'll say, God, don't be attacking Obama. Well, this is Obama's deal and it's Obama that's responsible for this fear in America.
  
  The guy keeps making speeches about redistribution and maybe we ought to do something to businesses that don't invest, their holding too much money. We haven't heard that kind of talk except from pure socialists. Everybody's afraid of the government and there's no need soft peddling it, it's the truth. It is the truth. And that's true of Democratic businessman and Republican businessman, and I am a Democratic businessman and I support Harry Reid. I support Democrats and Republicans. And I'm telling you that the business community in this company is frightened to death of the weird political philosophy of the President of the United States. And until he's gone, everybody's going to be sitting on their thumbs.
  
  
  
  Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/wynn-ceo-steve-wynn-conference-call-transcript-obama-2011-7#ixzz1SYmxbX5T
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Truer words have not been spoken regarding this administration.
  
  The most anti-business group to come to power -- ever.
• jhay78

  

  I Wear Pants;834040 wrote:"It’ll be in-your-face class warfare, with bitter appeals to envy, fear, and anxiety, plus the demonization of the other side’s motives.”
  
  Dude just described Democrats and Republicans. Probably himself too.

  Yeah because Republicans engage in class warfare all the time . . .
  
  You can't work with someone who, in the past few weeks, has stated multiple times "We can't give big tax breaks to big oil, corporate jet owners, etc, etc, etc", when he knows that's not true, and even if we did tax the top 1% at 100%, it wouldn't cover the $1.3 Trillion deficit.
  
  The message I'm hearing from Republicans is simply "We're not agreeing to raising taxes in any form", not "Obama just wants to pad the pockets of his union buddies" or "Obama is a communist". They're stating their position, holding firm, and don't sound to me like they're demonizing the other side.
  
  I get what you're saying about both sides playing politics, but Obama has been stooping to a new low.
• I Wear Pants

  I disagree, I think both sides are descending to new depths together.
  
  Though that's harder to see when you agree with one side.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  I Wear Pants;834369 wrote:I disagree, I think both sides are descending to new depths together.
  
  Though that's harder to see when you agree with one side.

  
  Your post being the proof of your statement, right?
• BGFalcons82

  

  I Wear Pants;834369 wrote:I disagree, I think both sides are descending to new depths together.
  
  Though that's harder to see when you agree with one side.

  
  Speaking of new depths, I read where Boehner and McConnell had non-publicized meetings with Obama over the weekend. This is how RINO's act..."negotiate", acquiesce, compromise, and become "deal-makers" behind closed doors. This is what I HATE about DC. This is the pond scum covering their tracks. This is how the R's get whip-sawed by the media and are forced time after time after time after time to give-in to the big spending liberal mentality that grips our nation's capital.
  
  Obama raised the spending to 25% of GDP from the historical average of !6 to 19% and he's not going to go back. He wants fundamental change because he said so. He wants social justice to be served by the rich fat-cat millionaires making $200,000 per year (isn't that a little bit of fuzzy-math?). He wants his pork-laden debt enhancing "stimulus" funding to become permanent so that he can make more people dependent on the government.
  
  The time for R's to stand up is now. Not after the deal (ahem, Mr. McConnell). Not before the next election (ahem, Mr. Boehner). Not after the media brews and concocts more polling showing 80% of Americans are against the R's. Now.
  
  Y'all are worried that S & P and Moody's will lower our credit rating if the debt ceiling isn't raised. They're going to lower it anyways when the debt surpasses GDP and it's projected to be around 90% within the next year or so. Then y'all can blame the R's again for NOT stopping you this Summer.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  The House should have gone forward and passed one of the plans they had in mind. Now they are going to look like they dithered while the Dems took action in the Senate...and I'm sure that's how the media will report it.
  
  Ironic given Obama's and the Senate's record (or lack of it) where a budget is concerned.
• believer

  

  Did we expect this to be any other way?
• BGFalcons82

  

  believer;834600 wrote:Did we expect this to be any other way?

  
  Nope. Screw Boehner and McConnell. I know West Chester is a heavy R district....it's time to find another R besides the crybaby bitch.
• jhay78

  

  BGFalcons82;834531 wrote:Speaking of new depths, I read where Boehner and McConnell had non-publicized meetings with Obama over the weekend. This is how RINO's act..."negotiate", acquiesce, compromise, and become "deal-makers" behind closed doors. This is what I HATE about DC. This is the pond scum covering their tracks. This is how the R's get whip-sawed by the media and are forced time after time after time after time to give-in to the big spending liberal mentality that grips our nation's capital.
  
  Obama raised the spending to 25% of GDP from the historical average of !6 to 19% and he's not going to go back. He wants fundamental change because he said so. He wants social justice to be served by the rich fat-cat millionaires making $200,000 per year (isn't that a little bit of fuzzy-math?). He wants his pork-laden debt enhancing "stimulus" funding to become permanent so that he can make more people dependent on the government.
  
  The time for R's to stand up is now. Not after the deal (ahem, Mr. McConnell). Not before the next election (ahem, Mr. Boehner). Not after the media brews and concocts more polling showing 80% of Americans are against the R's. Now.
  
  Y'all are worried that S & P and Moody's will lower our credit rating if the debt ceiling isn't raised. They're going to lower it anyways when the debt surpasses GDP and it's projected to be around 90% within the next year or so. Then y'all can blame the R's again for NOT stopping you this Summer.

  
  Sen DeMint agrees with you:
  
  http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/272206/demint-debt-ceiling-robert-costa?page=1
  

  The McConnell plan, which would enable the president to raise the debt ceiling by veto, is “smoke and mirrors,” DeMint says. Senate Republicans, he adds, know this and should not rest easy if they support the maneuver. While he is not ready to say that McConnell-plan backers deserve primary challengers, he will say that such a vote would be “horrifying” and cause for future political headaches.
  
  “I don’t think there is room in Washington for people who don’t think we need to balance our budgets,” DeMint says. “To those who think we should do this maneuver, and then somehow think you can keep your hands clean, that is the old Washington Republican way — and people don’t like it.”
  
  “Some of us feel like we cannot push the envelope further on the debt. We have been told too many times that we will get some reforms, that we will cut, only to be asked to raise the ceiling again,” he says. “It’s time to draw the line in the sand.”
  
  If Republicans “cave,” DeMint says, and fail to pass a balanced-budget amendment through both chambers of Congress, the future of the party will be in peril.
  
  “If Republicans do not show the political will to stop the spending, and use the debt limit to make our case, the party is gone,” DeMint warns. “It’s not a matter of partisan politics. This is a point in our history where have to do something.”

• gut

  Writerbuckeye;834247 wrote:Truer words have not been spoken regarding this administration.
  
  The most anti-business group to come to power -- ever.

  
  It's true. Unfortunately, it will be written off as whining and BS from a fat-cat, eventhough it's almost verbatim from what many non-rich people on this board have said. You can debate whether that fear and trepidation from business is justified, but it doesn't make it any less real and the most likely reason why traditional economic stimulus measure have been ineffective - business is not looking at current conditions they are hoarding for the coming apocalypse. Saw today where CISCO, I think, is laying off something lik 1/6th it's workforce, many of whom were hired recently for new growth strategies that have failed.
• I Wear Pants

  The Cisco stuff I wouldn't really blame on Obama. They've failed miserably with a lot of their consumer oriented endeavors. Failed to turn the Flip Video acquisition into a viable revenue stream and shut it down pretty quickly after they bought it. Hell they were even the leader in that, admittedly small, market. They should have seen the proliferation of similar quality video capture functionality coming to smartphones everywhere long before it happened and made moves to distinguish their product from them. They didn't.
• fish82

  

  I Wear Pants;835103 wrote:The Cisco stuff I wouldn't really blame on Obama. They've failed miserably with a lot of their consumer oriented endeavors. Failed to turn the Flip Video acquisition into a viable revenue stream and shut it down pretty quickly after they bought it. Hell they were even the leader in that, admittedly small, market. They should have seen the proliferation of similar quality video capture functionality coming to smartphones everywhere long before it happened and made moves to distinguish their product from them. They didn't.

  Agreed. Cisco has been hanging on by a thread since before anyone ever heard the name Barack Obama.
• gut

  I''m not blaming Obama for CISCO, but I do think it's some illustration of the business climate out there even while some of it is of their own doing. Businesses are very uncertain about the future and that is never good for an economy. Steve Wynn put it very bluntly. It will be dismissed by the liberal media, but it's the truth.
• QuakerOats

  Because businesses are looking ahead at the MASSIVE tax increases scheduled to occur in 2013 as the tax cuts expire and the new taxes from "Affordable Care (laughable) Act" kick in. We are talking about tax increases of historic proportion and unless obama gets the boot in '12 and that situation changes, then you are looking at the great recession of 2013.
  
  Change we can believe in .......
• believer

  

  QuakerOats;835331 wrote:Because businesses are looking ahead at the MASSIVE tax increases scheduled to occur in 2013 as the tax cuts expire and the new taxes from "Affordable Care (laughable) Act" kick in. We are talking about tax increases of historic proportion and unless obama gets the boot in '12 and that situation changes, then you are looking at the great recession of 2013.
  
  Change we can believe in .......

  You mean we aren't already in the midst of the Great Recession?
• Manhattan Buckeye

  believer;835860 wrote:You mean we aren't already in the midst of the Great Recession?

  
  We're there. The next shoe to drop is student loan defaults..
• tk421

  

  Manhattan Buckeye;836069 wrote:We're there. The next shoe to drop is student loan defaults..

  Mortgage deduction. The gang of 6 plan will significantly cut this back.
• coyotes22

  

  I thought Obama inherited a recession?
• Manhattan Buckeye

  tk421;836147 wrote:Mortgage deduction. The gang of 6 plan will significantly cut this back.

  
  Possible but not probable, my guess is that they'll roll back the deduction but not eliminate it. Killing this deduction will kill the RE market (to the extent it isn't already dead).
• coyotes22

  

  
  
  
  
  
  http://catchkevin.com/31-facts/
  
  Im sure there are excusses to be had for all 31 things. Cant wait to read them.
  
  

  1. If a previous president had doubled the national debt which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in just one year, would you have approved?
  
  3. If a previous president would have spent nearly a trillion dollars in stimulus and guaranteed unemployment would not exceed 8%, would you have called him a liar?
  
  4. If a previous president would have played golf for thirteen weekends in a row leaving it up to congressional leaders to deal with the greatest financial crisis since the great depression, would you have considered him disengaged and out of touch?
  
  11. If a previous president had been the first president to need a teleprompter to get through a press conference, would you have thought this is more proof of how inept he is on his own and that he’s really controlled by smarter people behind the scenes?

• I Wear Pants

  Most of those are laughable dude.
  
  "31. If a previous president had released a fraudulent long form birth certificate and was factually proven ineligible to even be the president whether he was born on American soil or not, would you have not demanded impeachment? " GTFOOH with that birther nonsense.
• coyotes22

  

  I Wear Pants;836369 wrote:Most of those are laughable dude.
  
  "31. If a previous president had released a fraudulent long form birth certificate and was factually proven ineligible to even be the president whether he was born on American soil or not, would you have not demanded impeachment? " GTFOOH with that birther nonsense.

  Im in no way a birther. LOL. I didnt write them, just found them interesting.