Disgusted With Obama Administration.
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Footwedge
Ron Paul is miles above "all this".stlouiedipalma;1082771 wrote:And your savior, Ron Paul, will be above all this? -
ptown_trojans_1
On the flip side, conservatives, and many on here, bash Obama just like those crazy libs bashed Bush.BGFalcons82;1082943 wrote:You're upset about the term, "regime"? Here's a link to a webpage with a video of many Democrats talking about the Bush "Regime" - http://newsbusters.org/?q=blogs/ken-shepherd/2010/04/12/video-liberals-msnbc-loved-using-term-bush-regime
Here's a listing of even more Bush-loathers using the term - http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/197376/matthews-and-regime-change-contd/jonah-goldberg
If you Google, "Bush Regime", you'll get over 10,000,000 links, so it's not just a few one-offs, now is it?
What's the matter...the shoe from the other foot not fitting as well as you'd like it?
Both are equally sad and pathetic. It is one of the many sad things wrong with the political dialogue now. -
Manhattan Buckeye
Agreed, but when legitimate arguments against this administration are proffered the common response is "that's racist." It is ridiculous. Particularly considering the proverbial "goalposts have been moved" for this administration in its effectiveness. The MSM was doing cartwheels in the street for a BLS statistic last week that would have impeached the previous administration in 2005.ptown_trojans_1;1083055 wrote:On the flip side, conservatives, and many on here, bash Obama just like those crazy libs bashed Bush.
Both are equally sad and pathetic. It is one of the many sad things wrong with the political dialogue now. -
believer
And this is the essence underlying the loathing of the Obama Administration. Bush Bashing occurred across-the-board including the MSM. Obama Loathing is more of a grassroots phenomena because the MSM - in general - has been and remains largely unwilling to vet Obama's policies and qualifications to do the job.Manhattan Buckeye;1083320 wrote:Agreed, but when legitimate arguments against this administration are proffered the common response is "that's racist." It is ridiculous. Particularly considering the proverbial "goalposts have been moved" for this administration in its effectiveness. The MSM was doing cartwheels in the street for a BLS statistic last week that would have impeached the previous administration in 2005. -
gut
Even though many liberals are disappointed in Obama, they still can't really bring themselves to criticize him. Heck, Bush STILL gets more criticism in the media than The Chosen Flop. What you come to realize is maybe Obama isn't even that convincing or compelling, the media just loves to jump in on the Buffet rule, the Tea Party, and how Republicans are ruining this country because they don't want $1.5T deficits.believer;1083531 wrote:And this is the essence underlying the loathing of the Obama Administration. Bush Bashing occurred across-the-board including the MSM. Obama Loathing is more of a grassroots phenomena because the MSM - in general - has been and remains largely unwilling to vet Obama's policies and qualifications to do the job.
That we have $1.5T deficits and are not even operating under a budget for the entirety of Obama's term (well, save the first one because that was really from the Bush administration) should be impeachable. The Dem controlled Senate doesn't pass a budget, and so the dunce-in-chief says "I'll use my budget which calls for a $1.3T deficit, but we may spend more....hard to know, because we DON'T HAVE A BUDGET"
Perhaps the average American is just too ignorant to get this, but Obama and the Dems should be relentlessly hammered for not having a budget. That is proof, basically, that they've completely given-up even trying to pretend to be fiscally responsible. Might as well call their plan for the country the "blank check". -
QuakerOatsIRS Announces New Taxes on Medical Devices
On February 3, 2012, the IRS issued new regulations to implement a 2.3% excise tax on medical devices. This new tax was created by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act to raise revenues to pay for health benefits established by the law.
U.S. medical device manufacturers are the world market leaders; the imposition of this new tax will impede U.S. industry's capital capacity to invest in research and development, new technologies and new employees. The OMA is asking Ohio members of Congress to pass HR 436 (Paulsen, R – MN). The bill would repeal the new tax. For more, read this Advanced Medical Technology Association (AdvaMed) press release. 02/10/2012
Where does it end ......
Change we can believe in ..... -
gut
That tax just gets passed on to the buyer (the surgeons or hospitals here), which then just gets passed on to the patient or, ultimately, the insurance company. Don't these idiots know anything? Ultimately this only increases the cost, i.e. the "deadweight" costs (like costs of administration).QuakerOats;1084595 wrote:IRS Announces New Taxes on Medical Devices
On February 3, 2012, the IRS issued new regulations to implement a 2.3% excise tax on medical devices. This new tax was created by the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act to raise revenues to pay for health benefits established by the law.
Or maybe I have this all wrong. You subsidize that which you want more of, and tax what you want less of. So maybe the plan is to lower costs because of higher taxes leading to fewer surgeries. Only problem is that doesn't work because neither the doctor or patient pays (at least, not directly and only a fraction of the cost, since it's shared by all insured). -
QuakerOatshttp://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72792.html
Another $3.8 trillion budget; another $1.4 in deficit spending.
The guy is either:
A) completely inept
B) the greatest spender & taxer in world history
C) purposefully plotting the economic collapse of the nation from within
This is ......... change we can believe in ...... -
BGFalcons82
Anybody watching what's going on in Greece right now? Since we can print money out of thin air that the world recognizes, Bernacke and Barry both believe we aren't anything like the Greeks. That is, until China decides they should be the world's currency. Then what?QuakerOats;1084760 wrote:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72792.html
Another $3.8 trillion budget; another $1.4 in deficit spending.
The guy is either:
A) completely inept
B) the greatest spender & taxer in world history
C) purposefully plotting the economic collapse of the nation from within
This is ......... change we can believe in ...... -
QuakerOats
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BoatShoes
It'd be neat if you conservatives would start worrying about the real problems that are, you know, actually happening, like the nearly half-a-decade long disaster of high unemployment. If you've paid any attention at all, any at all, the austerity measures imposed on the PIGS while their economies were depressed have made their budget problems worse. You're sitting here speculating about a country that has devalued it's currency against the dollars to levels that would make the inflation-obsessed have a coronary.BGFalcons82;1084808 wrote:Anybody watching what's going on in Greece right now? Since we can print money out of thin air that the world recognizes, Bernacke and Barry both believe we aren't anything like the Greeks. That is, until China decides they should be the world's currency. Then what?
When BHO, and Congress, or Ben Bernanke, or everybody else with power refuses to do anything that would significantly bring down unemployment for several years and the automatic safety net spending rises instead, and you also ran large deficits during good economic times, you're going to have unconscionably huge deficits.
You're not going to be able to balance the budget when the unemployment rate is so much higher than the Fed's target rate! -
Footwedge
It is without a doubt....a horrible budget....beyond reproach. But wasn't it you guys that laid all the blame on the Congress regarding budgets? You know, when Reagan tripled the national debt? When Bush raised it 60%?QuakerOats;1084760 wrote:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72792.html
Another $3.8 trillion budget; another $1.4 in deficit spending.
The guy is either:
A) completely inept
B) the greatest spender & taxer in world history
C) purposefully plotting the economic collapse of the nation from within
This is ......... change we can believe in ......
Now...what you will see are the John Boehners of the world hang a few months of lip service on how bad it is....and they will snip it a whopping .5%. I've seen this movie...4 or 5 times already.
That's the way it works. You want the shiete stopped?
Then vote a libertarian in there....because your side sux just as putridly. -
Cleveland Buck
China tried to inflate with us, but they couldn't keep up without sky high price inflation and a housing bubble. They have since popped it, so it won't be long before the RMB starts climbing too high against the dollar for their liking. Those poor suckers. We require the world pay for their oil in dollars and enforce that policy with the blood of our young people. That is almost single handedly propping up this charade.BoatShoes;1084989 wrote:It'd be neat if you conservatives would start worrying about the real problems that are, you know, actually happening, like the nearly half-a-decade long disaster of high unemployment. If you've paid any attention at all, any at all, the austerity measures imposed on the PIGS while their economies were depressed have made their budget problems worse. You're sitting here speculating about a country that has devalued it's currency against the dollars to levels that would make the inflation-obsessed have a coronary.
When BHO, and Congress, or Ben Bernanke, or everybody else with power refuses to do anything that would significantly bring down unemployment for several years and the automatic safety net spending rises instead, and you also ran large deficits during good economic times, you're going to have unconscionably huge deficits.
You're not going to be able to balance the budget when the unemployment rate is so much higher than the Fed's target rate!
And I don't know what else you want Helicopter Ben to do, he has rates at zero, which means constantly buying assets to expand the Fed balance sheet and the credit market. And unemployment isn't going to go away unless Barack sends ten million of our people off to war to go get shot at, which I would not put past him. A balanced budget will never come without draconian cuts. And prosperity will not come until after freedom does. -
ptown_trojans_1
We are no where near Greece there chief.BGFalcons82;1084808 wrote:Anybody watching what's going on in Greece right now? Since we can print money out of thin air that the world recognizes, Bernacke and Barry both believe we aren't anything like the Greeks. That is, until China decides they should be the world's currency. Then what?
And no one wants to have the Chinese currency the world's currency. It ain't happening. Check the latest issue of Foreign Affairs for the Macro economics reasons why.
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/136778/sebastian-mallaby-and-olin-wethington/the-future-of-the-yuan -
ptown_trojans_1
You do know that whatever budget is passed is going to look largely this right? It will be trimmed and moved here and there, but the bottom line numbers will still be within the margins.QuakerOats;1084760 wrote:http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72792.html
Another $3.8 trillion budget; another $1.4 in deficit spending.
The guy is either:
A) completely inept
B) the greatest spender & taxer in world history
C) purposefully plotting the economic collapse of the nation from within
This is ......... change we can believe in ......
Also, lost in the political BS is the fact the President is increasing funds for nuclear weapons, R&D, and nonproliferation. But, guy is a Marxist and crazy.http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/obama-seeks-more-money-nuke-nonproliferation-efforts/ -
QuakerOatsptown_trojans_1;1085043 wrote: But, guy is a Marxist and crazy.http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/obama-seeks-more-money-nuke-nonproliferation-efforts/
No, he is not crazy. -
IggyPride00
He is actually doing everything he told us he was going to do before he was elected. There is no man behind the curtain with this regime.QuakerOats;1085211 wrote:No, he is not crazy.
He told us energy prices would necessarily skyrocket, that taxes would go up (which is coming), that he was going to do government healthcare.
Nothing he is doing should shock anyone. What is shocking is that he is so open and brazen about his plans and often receives little to no pushback. -
fish82
The last budget passed by the HOR snipped it considerably more than 0.5%.Footwedge;1085019 wrote:It is without a doubt....a horrible budget....beyond reproach. But wasn't it you guys that laid all the blame on the Congress regarding budgets? You know, when Reagan tripled the national debt? When Bush raised it 60%?
Now...what you will see are the John Boehners of the world hang a few months of lip service on how bad it is....and they will snip it a whopping .5%. I've seen this movie...4 or 5 times already.
That's the way it works. You want the shiete stopped?
Then vote a libertarian in there....because your side sux just as putridly. -
HitsRus
Even the MSM is panning his 'budget'. SMH. -
BGFalcons82
Are you referring to the, "Do Nothing Congress"? You know, the one controlled soley by those low-life satanic Republicans? The one where Harry Reid goes to work every freaking day, does nothing, snores, and then complains that it's all the other side's fault that nothing gets done?fish82;1085441 wrote:The last budget passed by the HOR snipped it considerably more than 0.5%.
Speaking of doing nothing and blaming the evil incarnate conservatives, I learned yesterday that budget and spending legislation is not subject to the fillibuster rules in the Senate. It only takes a majority vote to pass or decline spending bills. Hhmmm....the Dems have 53 seats, so why not pass a budget in over 1,000 days? The Prez's Chief of Staff, Lew, was all over the Sunday talk shows blaming rat-bastard Republicans for not voting on any budgets and the main stream press followed up his obfuscation with.....crickets. -
BGFalcons82
1. The austerity measures being used by the Greeks are the medicine to muliple decades of spending money they didn't have. Their currency doesn't have the dollar's buying power, so they couldn't fire up the printing presses to create cash out of thin air like our leaders have done. Thus, they have borrowed hundreds of billions and their creditors aren't willing to just write off the debt without a serious attempt to stop their deficit vortex and repay their debt. The piper, in this case the financial institutions of Europe and the U.S., must be paid. There are consequences for spending money they don't have.BoatShoes;1084989 wrote:It'd be neat if you conservatives would start worrying about the real problems that are, you know, actually happening, like the nearly half-a-decade long disaster of high unemployment. If you've paid any attention at all, any at all, the austerity measures imposed on the PIGS while their economies were depressed have made their budget problems worse. You're sitting here speculating about a country that has devalued it's currency against the dollars to levels that would make the inflation-obsessed have a coronary.
When BHO, and Congress, or Ben Bernanke, or everybody else with power refuses to do anything that would significantly bring down unemployment for several years and the automatic safety net spending rises instead, and you also ran large deficits during good economic times, you're going to have unconscionably huge deficits.
You're not going to be able to balance the budget when the unemployment rate is so much higher than the Fed's target rate!
2. Yes, I agree their economy isn't nearly as large/diverse as ours. Yes, I agree they don't have as much impact around the world as the U.S. Yes, I agree they aren't just like the U.S. I also agree that our spending of money that does not exist is exactly the path they went down. Now they are experiencing the pain of withdrawal off of their unfunded entitlement tits. Our pain will be much much worse and thus...the violence may soon follow. Hence my reference if anyone is watching what is happening in Greece. Our decades of deficits and a godzilla of debt that will never be repaid have the exact same consequences, with different timing.
3. I will remind you that Barry is projecting trillion-dollar yearly deficits into the future. If we keep going at his pace, at some point within the next 5 years the debt service will be over $1,000,000,000,000 per year. Debt service payments purchase NOTHING, except for the opportunity to create MORE DEBT. You opine consistently that debt spending is required today as interest rates are at record lows and we must take advantage of money that is nearly "free of charge". Your hope and prayer is that eventually...sometime....someday....maybe....with crossed fingers/toes....the spending will kick-start economic nirvana and we'll grow our way out of the $16,000,000,000,000 debt sinkhole. This is a fairly tale. We simply cannot amass more debt that requires more servicing and survive. Chaos awaits sooner rather than later if we don't stop our Keynesian charade. -
QuakerOats
Actually, we are much closer to Greece than you think; as the point was again made by yet another economist on Bloomberg this morning. And this president has squandered another year, kicking the can down the street and abdicating his duties. He is supposed to be THE LEADER, yet he actually is the most divisive president in history. Real LEADERS recognize, and deal with, serious problems --- he is anything BUT a real leader. Most of us knew that though; you cannot throw a community organizer into the presidency and expect anything different --- that is just reality.ptown_trojans_1;1085041 wrote:We are no where near Greece there chief.
So, let's go back a few years and review:
“This is big,” wrote White House director of new media Macon Phillips in a February 23, 2009 blog post, ”the President today promised that by the end of his first term, he will cut in half the massive federal deficit we’ve inherited. And we’ll do it in a new way: honestly and candidly.”
Indeed, President Obama did make that promise that day, saying, “today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office. This will not be easy. It will require us to make difficult decisions and face challenges we’ve long neglected. But I refuse to leave our children with a debt that they cannot repay — and that means taking responsibility right now, in this administration, for getting our spending under control.”
Perhaps one of his biggest lies! -
QuakerOatshttp://nationalpriorities.org/resources/federal-budget-101/charts/general/federal-outlays-and-revenues-1930-2015-perc-gdp/
Federal SPENDING as a % of GDP has risen dramatically to historic post-war highs under obama. He is making big spending liberals look like tightwad prudes.
What a record he has to run on:
Greatest level of post-depression unemployment
Greatest level of government dependency
Greatest amount of annual budget deficits
Greatest amount of national debt
Greatest levels of federal spending
And those are just some of the 'money issues', lest we forget the assaults on private enterprise, capitalism, free markets, religious freedom, and the constitution.
Change we can believe in ... -
bases_loaded
So let me get this all straight.
Obama backs Arab Spring which puts Muslim Brotherhood in power in those countries.
Obama announces down scaling of US military (to save money) and that we can no longer fight on two fronts.
Obama refuses to publically take any sides with Israel.
Obama wants $800~ million more for Arab spring.
Iran is begging for war
Now the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt says if we don't give them money they're attacking Israel.
The fuck? -
QuakerOatsYour understanding is correct; he is a Christian.