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New Arizona law on immigration is stirring it up

  • ptown_trojans_1
    Belly, and that is from who and where?
    One of those reliable email chains?
    Yeah, I call BS on it.
  • I Wear Pants
    Email Chains: Spreading Bullshit to the Masses Since 1994.
  • Footwedge
    America never had this problem until NAFTA was passed in the early nineties. NAFTA was passed in order for American corporations to circumvent labor, environmental and safety laws. The indirect result was the complete fucling of the Mexican workers. So the environment was set for the Mexican sweatshop worker to run the risk of life and limb to better themselves by entering our country illegally.

    Clinton, the GOP Congress and the corporate demogogues fucked the American workers and the Mexican workers...all under the guise of "free trade".
  • jhay78
    Belly35 wrote: this good

    Dear Mr. Obama:

    I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.

    We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.

    We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.

    I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over?

    Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

    1. Free medical care for my entire family.

    2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

    3. Please print all Mexican government forms in English.

    4. I want my grandkids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

    5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

    6. I want my grandkids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

    7. Please plan to feed my grandkids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

    8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

    9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

    10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

    11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put U. S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

    12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

    13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

    14. I want to receive free food stamps.

    15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.

    16. I'll need Income tax credits so although I don't pay Mexican Taxes, I'll receive money from the government.

    17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Gov't pays $4,500 to help me buy a new car.

    18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.

    I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the U.S. from Mexico . I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

    Thank you so much for your kind help. You're the man!!!
    ptown_trojans_1 wrote: Belly, and that is from who and where?
    One of those reliable email chains?
    Yeah, I call BS on it.
    Nevermind attempting to refute any info in that "chain email". It makes a great point how we're supposed to sit back and let another country invade us while everyone else has tough immigration standards.
  • queencitybuckeye
    jhay78 wrote: Nevermind attempting to refute any info in that "chain email". It makes a great point how we're supposed to sit back and let another country invade us while everyone else has tough immigration standards.
    So lies are OK if the cause is right?
  • jhay78
    queencitybuckeye wrote:
    jhay78 wrote: Nevermind attempting to refute any info in that "chain email". It makes a great point how we're supposed to sit back and let another country invade us while everyone else has tough immigration standards.
    So lies are OK if the cause is right?
    That was my point- which of the statements in that "pretend letter to Obama" are lies? Or did Belly35 "lie" by posting as if those were his own thoughts?
    Or is there no argument against that info and so let's go red herring and attack the format of the info?
  • cbus4life
    I lol'ed at the "I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws." That could be said for just about everyone in the USA, even those whose family members came over on the Mayflower. :D
  • I Wear Pants
    jhay78 wrote:
    queencitybuckeye wrote:
    jhay78 wrote: Nevermind attempting to refute any info in that "chain email". It makes a great point how we're supposed to sit back and let another country invade us while everyone else has tough immigration standards.
    So lies are OK if the cause is right?
    That was my point- which of the statements in that "pretend letter to Obama" are lies? Or did Belly35 "lie" by posting as if those were his own thoughts?
    Or is there no argument against that info and so let's go red herring and attack the format of the info?
    It's not real discourse. I could write one of those letters from the perspective of a legal Mexican immigrant and it would sound just as bad.

    "They always treat me like a dirty, thieving, low life bastard who has no right to be here"

    "Constantly mocking my heritage"

    Etc, etc.

    It's easy to make things look bad when you look at them through one lens and ignore every other situation.
  • Belly35
    Chair letter are never to be taken serious I just find some of them to be creative and funny.....
    if you can't have fun or laught about what going on a round you then you're way to serious to enjoy the good things.
  • I Wear Pants
    Belly35 wrote: Chair letter are never to be taken serious I just find some of them to be creative and funny.....
    if you can't have fun or laught about what going on a round you then you're way to serious to enjoy the good things.
    I once got a chain email that literally purported Obama to be the anti-christ. Complete with cheesy Photoshop.

    That one was hilarious. I deleted it though.
  • redstreak one
    Build a fence, let any illegal stay and apply for citizenship, any illegal that gets arrested and convicted and is found illegal toss them over the fence. Sad day, but we have more troops protecting Pakistani and South Korea borders more than our own! lol
  • Writerbuckeye
    And in yet another moronic example of moronic "logic" as relates to this law: A girls basketball team in Illinois was to attend a tournament in Arizona but the school administration has now canceled it, citing all the kinds of crap including safety concerns and the idea that Arizona's law does not conform to the school's values.

    Now mind you, this is the same school that not that long ago sent a class field trip to China, of all places.

    I sincerely hope these kids remember this nonsense as they reach voting age.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/12/hoop-dreams-shattered-arizona-safety-fears/
  • jhay78
    Unbelievable.

    Great quote from a parent:
    “The school has sent children to China, they’ve sent children to South America, they’ve sent children to the Czech Republic, but somehow Arizona is more unsafe for them than those places,” he said.

    “The beliefs and values of China are apparently aligned, since they approved that trip,” he added.
    And a student with half a brain:
    One player, who said she is against the Arizona law, told Fox News she didn’t see how the tournament was related.

    “It’s ultimately the state’s decision, no matter what I think. Not playing basketball in Arizona is not going to change anything,” she told Fox News.
    This school is another example of liberals standing on their heads and telling everyone the world is upside down.
  • Al Bundy
    Writerbuckeye wrote: And in yet another moronic example of moronic "logic" as relates to this law: A girls basketball team in Illinois was to attend a tournament in Arizona but the school administration has now canceled it, citing all the kinds of crap including safety concerns and the idea that Arizona's law does not conform to the school's values.

    Now mind you, this is the same school that not that long ago sent a class field trip to China, of all places.

    I sincerely hope these kids remember this nonsense as they reach voting age.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/12/hoop-dreams-shattered-arizona-safety-fears/
    It is sad to see a school adminstrator using kids as pawns because he disagrees with a political issue.
  • cbus4life
    Writerbuckeye wrote: And in yet another moronic example of moronic "logic" as relates to this law: A girls basketball team in Illinois was to attend a tournament in Arizona but the school administration has now canceled it, citing all the kinds of crap including safety concerns and the idea that Arizona's law does not conform to the school's values.

    Now mind you, this is the same school that not that long ago sent a class field trip to China, of all places.

    I sincerely hope these kids remember this nonsense as they reach voting age.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/12/hoop-dreams-shattered-arizona-safety-fears/
    Well, considering most people say that Arizona is pretty much Mexico now, and the U.S. State Department places Mexico and freaking Afghanistan in the same category as far as travel advisories for U.S. citizens are concerned, and China isn't even on their current list, i think the school administrators made the right decision. :D

    (i'm kidding)
  • stlouiedipalma
    Belly35 wrote: Chair letter are never to be taken serious I just find some of them to be creative and funny.....
    if you can't have fun or laught about what going on a round you then you're way to serious to enjoy the good things.
    Belly,

    This is getting scary. That's twice in a month I've agreed with you on something.
  • Belly35
    stlouiedipalma wrote:
    Belly35 wrote: Chair letter are never to be taken serious I just find some of them to be creative and funny.....
    if you can't have fun or laught about what going on a round you then you're way to serious to enjoy the good things.
    Belly,

    This is getting scary. That's twice in a month I've agreed with you on something.

    Wow! You do know that if you agree with Belly three times in less than a month or can translate more that three of his post you will receive a Belly Button. :D

    Not yet designed but I will take graphic suggestion. :idea:
  • CenterBHSFan
    Belly35 wrote: Wow! You do know that if you agree with Belly three times in less than a month or can translate more that three of his post you will receive a Belly Button. :D

    Not yet designed but I will take graphic suggestion. :idea:

    LMAO!!!
  • I Wear Pants
    I thought this was funny.

    http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-12-2010/back-in-black---glenn-beck-s-nazi-tourette-s
  • BCSbunk
    Footwedge wrote: America never had this problem until NAFTA was passed in the early nineties. NAFTA was passed in order for American corporations to circumvent labor, environmental and safety laws. The indirect result was the complete fucling of the Mexican workers. So the environment was set for the Mexican sweatshop worker to run the risk of life and limb to better themselves by entering our country illegally.

    Clinton, the GOP Congress and the corporate demogogues fucked the American workers and the Mexican workers...all under the guise of "free trade".
    +1

    I would like to add. What other famous government asked to see your papers?
  • majorspark
    BCSbunk wrote: I would like to add. What other famous government asked to see your papers?
    Every civilized government on this earth asks to see your papers. We have been allowing states in this country to do this for years.
  • BCSbunk
    majorspark wrote:
    BCSbunk wrote: I would like to add. What other famous government asked to see your papers?
    Every civilized government on this earth asks to see your papers. We have been allowing states in this country to do this for years.
    Funny how when I have traveled abroad no one asked for my papers?

    Funny how so far here in Ohio no one has ever asked to see my papers.

    That phrase carries something with it. And it is not good.
  • Al Bundy
    BCSbunk wrote:
    majorspark wrote:
    BCSbunk wrote: I would like to add. What other famous government asked to see your papers?
    Every civilized government on this earth asks to see your papers. We have been allowing states in this country to do this for years.
    Funny how when I have traveled abroad no one asked for my papers?

    Funny how so far here in Ohio no one has ever asked to see my papers.

    That phrase carries something with it. And it is not good.
    You never had to show a passport when you traveled abroad?
  • BCSbunk
    Al Bundy wrote:
    BCSbunk wrote:
    majorspark wrote:
    BCSbunk wrote: I would like to add. What other famous government asked to see your papers?
    Every civilized government on this earth asks to see your papers. We have been allowing states in this country to do this for years.
    Funny how when I have traveled abroad no one asked for my papers?

    Funny how so far here in Ohio no one has ever asked to see my papers.

    That phrase carries something with it. And it is not good.
    You never had to show a passport when you traveled abroad?
    Not once ever. Once I checked into the country and had approval to be inside I was never once accosted or questioned. Only nazis do that my friend.

    http://coloradoindependent.com/52039/the-new-birthers-arizona-truck-driver-arrested-forced-to-show-birth-certificate

    You show your Drivers license and tell them your SS and you still are arrested and cuffed?

    Yeah son them thar are what Nazis do.
  • majorspark
    BCSbunk wrote: Not once ever. Once I checked into the country and had approval to be inside I was never once accosted or questioned. Only nazis do that my friend.

    http://coloradoindependent.com/52039/the-new-birthers-arizona-truck-driver-arrested-forced-to-show-birth-certificate

    You show your Drivers license and tell them your SS and you still are arrested and cuffed?

    Yeah son them thar are what Nazis do.
    No, Nazis would have taken him out back and put a bullet in his brain.

    The article you cite is in regards to federal agents. The feds have been doing this kind of thing for years with nary a peep from those pitching a bitch about the Arizona law.