posted by Laley23

Plus, Teddy played for Boston, and fuck them.

LOL

I legit have never looked at HBP. But Cobb was an asshole, so maybe him haha.

posted by O-Trap

LOL

Yeah, I suppose when you include the pitching, Ruth probably has the edge.

Not quite the same as losing the years Ted lost — and pitchers did still bat — buts it’s like 4-5 years of his career not hitting; to go along with the actual great pitching numbers.

posted by Laley23

Not quite the same as losing the years Ted lost — and pitchers did still bat — buts it’s like 4-5 years of his career not hitting; to go along with the actual great pitching numbers.

And, to boot, when he came back, he picked up right where he left off.

posted by Laley23

I legit have never looked at HBP. But Cobb was an asshole, so maybe him haha.

This shocked me, but he was only HBP 10 times once.  Never 15.
 

posted by BRF

And, to boot, when he came back, he picked up right where he left off.

Guy was tremendous.

Rickie? Thinking of guys who had lots of ABs and played forever.

posted by Laley23

Rickie? Thinking of guys who had lots of ABs and played forever.

Nope.  Only hit double digits once: 10 HBP in '96.

As a clue, you're in the right era.

Oh wait, I know this one. I’ll let it go a few more guesses. 
HINT: his famous teammate (also HOF) got HBP a ton also.

posted by Laley23

Oh wait, I know this one. I’ll let it go a few more guesses. 
HINT: his famous teammate (also HOF) got HBP a ton also.

Nice.  Yep.

Well, I'm leaving my desk for the day, so I won't be around to give the answer.  Laley, you want to guess?

Alright, I gotta head out.

Craig Biggio has been beaned at least 15 times in a season 10 different times.  And the number of times per season are ridiculous.  The rest on this list were between 15 and 20 times.

Biggio:
22 HBP in 1995
27 HBP in 1996
34 HBP in 1997
23 HBP in 1998
16 HBP in 2000
28 HBP in 2001
17 HBP in 2002
27 HBP in 2003
15 HBP in 2004
17 HBP in 2005

The man has been hit by a pitch almost 100 times more in his career than the second-place HOFer.

Biggio: 285
Frank Robinson: 198

WTF?

posted by O-Trap

Alright, I gotta head out.

Craig Biggio has been beaned at least 15 times in a season 10 different times.  And the number of times per season are ridiculous.  The rest on this list were between 15 and 20 times.

Biggio:
22 HBP in 1995
27 HBP in 1996
34 HBP in 1997
23 HBP in 1998
16 HBP in 2000
28 HBP in 2001
17 HBP in 2002
27 HBP in 2003
15 HBP in 2004
17 HBP in 2005

The man has been hit by a pitch almost 100 times more in his career than the second-place HOFer.

Biggio: 285
Frank Robinson: 198

WTF?

Knew that one

posted by Ironman92

Knew that one

It's like he turned it into a skill.

posted by O-Trap

It's like he turned it into a skill.

Brandon Guyer is his pupil.

Question #116:

We all know that there have only been four players to make the 40/40 club, with 40 HRs and 40 SBs in the same season, none of whom are in the HOF: Canseco in '88, Bonds in '96, ARod in '98, and Soriano in '06.

This one HOFer, who played his entire career after 1970, is the only HOFer to have had multiple seasons of 40 HRs and 30 SBs.  Who is he?

(Bonds would be the second if he's ever voted in, as he did this in '97 to go with his 40/40 performance in '96.)

posted by O-Trap

That's insane.

One of the reasons I honestly think he might have been a better all-around player than Ruth.  I know that's heretical to some, but damn.
 

posted by justincredible

George Brett?

Nope.  Surprisingly, he's never been beaned more than 6 times in a season.
 

 

Oh, Williams was most definitely a better player than Ruth. Williams is the best pure hitter of all time. The closest hitter to Williams since, well Williams, was Tony Gwynn.

There's a 20ish minute video on youtube of Gwynn and Williams just talking the science of hitting...if you love the game, it is a much watch.

Willie Mays had power and speed.

posted by jmog

Oh, Williams was most definitely a better player than Ruth. Williams is the best pure hitter of all time. The closest hitter to Williams since, well Williams, was Tony Gwynn.

 

There's a 20ish minute video on youtube of Gwynn and Williams just talking the science of hitting...if you love the game, it is a much watch.

I agree with all of this, and I'll definitely be checking out the video.

My grandfather still gets excited at 91 years old when he talks about "the Splendid Splinter."

No slight to Ruth, though.  To be able to hold records as a pitcher AND records as a hitter is absurd.  If we include the pitching, I might give him the nod over Williams.
 

posted by justincredible

Willie Mays had power and speed.

He did.  Crazy enough, though, he hasn't even had one such season, though he was close to a 40/40 season in '56, when he snagged 40 steals and hit 36 homers.  Again in '57, when he hit 35 HRs and led the league with 38 steals.  Strange that his highest SB total in a year when he hit 40+ HRs was 24.

He's also not post-1970, but otherwise, he'd be a prime candidate for this.
 

posted by O-Trap

Question #116:

We all know that there have only been four players to make the 40/40 club, with 40 HRs and 40 SBs in the same season, none of whom are in the HOF: Canseco in '88, Bonds in '96, ARod in '98, and Soriano in '06.

This one HOFer, who played his entire career after 1970, is the only HOFer to have had multiple seasons of 40 HRs and 30 SBs.  Who is he?

(Bonds would be the second if he's ever voted in, as he did this in '97 to go with his 40/40 performance in '96.)

Vlad?

Ryne Sandberg?  Larry Walker?

My other guess would be Bagwell, since you were on the double Bs trend with Biggio earlier.

Post-70, missed that part.

posted by jmog

Vlad?

Never got it in the same season.
 

posted by BRF

Ryne Sandberg?  Larry Walker?

Larry did it once, but only once.  Ryne never got there.
 

posted by jmog

My other guess would be Bagwell, since you were on the double Bs trend with Biggio earlier.

Damnit.  Well, I did find this on complete accident and wasn't looking for it to be a Killer B, but yes.  It's Jeff Bagwell.

Bags hit 43 homers and stole 31 bases in '97.  Two years later, he tagged 42 homers and snagged 30 bases.

Couldn't believe Bags managed seasons like that when no other HOFers did.

posted by O-Trap

Never got it in the same season.
 

posted by BRF

Ryne Sandberg?  Larry Walker?

 

Larry did it once, but only once.  Ryne never got there.
 

posted by jmog

My other guess would be Bagwell, since you were on the double Bs trend with Biggio earlier.

Damnit.  Well, I did find this on complete accident and wasn't looking for it to be a Killer B, but yes.  It's Jeff Bagwell.

Bags hit 43 homers and stole 31 bases in '97.  Two years later, he tagged 42 homers and snagged 30 bases.

Couldn't believe Bags managed seasons like that when no other HOFers did.

 

Non HOF but what Bobby Bonds was doing in the early 70’s....genes are strong. He went 43/39

posted by Ironman92

Non HOF but what Bobby Bonds was doing in the early 70’s....genes are strong. He went 43/39

Yep.  I saw a few who did the 30+ HR and 40+ SB thing.  It was weird seeing Bags, of all people, being the only HOF player to do the reverse.  I don't exactly think of him as a base-stealer.